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sharkman
05-24-2005, 21:27
Just thought I'd get a feel for the groups preference. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/Demonstration.gif

Do you prefer a wheated bourbon or ryed bourbon? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/thankyousign.gif

gr8erdane
05-25-2005, 00:23
I believe I can speak for many here when I say that wheat or rye depends on the mood and/or situation. There are some days where the sweetness of the wheat is perfect and others where I feel the need for a jolt of spice. I answered wheat because my sweet tooth made me.

mobourbon
05-25-2005, 09:36
I like the spiciness of the rye bourbons. Makers Mark, for example has no body and weak taste for me. The exception is the Van Winkle bourbons. They are wheaters, but they have the spiciness that the rye bourbons have.

kitzg
05-25-2005, 09:48
Is this a bit like asking "if you were single, would you prefer a blond, redhead, or brunette?" To me that answer depends on "which one." I happen to love Weller 12, a wheater, as well as Eagle Rare or Knob Creek, from rye. It is great to have variety.

I've spent the last several months drinking quite a bit of Belgian ales. And while I can't say I got really tired of them it was a real pleasure to get a good English real ale for a change. That is a bit the way I am with bourbons.

Bob
05-25-2005, 10:58
I'm with Dane...I like 'em both, it just depends on my mood at the time.

TNbourbon
05-25-2005, 15:06
Ditto all that. I can't make a choice of one over the other. I know examples of each that are among the best on my shelf.

camduncan
05-25-2005, 15:28
I'm with Dane... I like both depending on the circumstances, but voted Wheat because I like the sweetness that is often a charactaristic http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bluesbassdad
05-25-2005, 16:10
Hmmm. . . Which is my [current] favorite, Rock Hill Farms or Van Winkle Family Reserve 12 y/o? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I really can't make such a choice.

The only way I can arrive at any rationale for picking either rye recipe or wheat as a group is to imagine I have the choice of drinking only one or the other for the rest of my life.

Except for the Van Winkles I would have little problem giving up the wheaters. There simply aren't that many contenders.

On the rye side their are numerous bottlings that I enjoy to the point that I'd miss them. (Along those lines Russell's Reserve comes to mind for some reason. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif )

Based in part on sheer numbers, I'd have to go with the rye recipe bourbons.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

clayton
05-25-2005, 16:38
My absolute favorite bourbon is Stagg (rye), but following that comes VW15 & Weller 12 (both wheaters).

I suppose I'd have to vote rye (which I did), seeing as a rye takes top place for me, but if you averaged the top three favorites...

Good thing we can have them all! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

OneCubeOnly
05-26-2005, 06:30
I voted for rye. However, if you had a third pick--something along the lines of "indifferent" I'd probably have chosen that instead. I think ryed bourbons really shine at lower ages, whereas the spectacular wheaters are older.

Ken Weber
05-26-2005, 07:09
Last night I was a dinner guest of a group of Scotch Whisky distillers and retailers. When it came time to order, I was torn between steak and salmon. I like them both and had to decide. Kind of like deciding between Buffalo Trace (rye) and Weller 12 (wheat). They are very different, but if I had to choose, I would go with the rye. To me, rye is like the entree and wheat is the dessert.

Ken

Geo
05-26-2005, 07:46
Give me Old Rip Van Winkle of Pappy and I am in heaven. The wheat makes the whiskey like silk and sweet as candy. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-26-2005, 09:22
Hi There,
I am not going to vote. I can't resist the topic though. I really love rye and thought that I didn't like wheaties. Early on I tried a bottle of Maker's Mark Red and liked it then I tried a whole bunch of other whiskies, scotch, Japanese malts and blends and, of course, bourbons. Then I got another bottle of MM Red and wasn't impressed at all. After that I thought that any too mild bourbon was a wheatie and that was why I didn't like it. Some of those turned out to be ryes.

Then I got a bottle of Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year old. That sure changed my mind in a hurry! I went back to the MM Red and liked it better than I had though it didn't match the ORVW 10. The wheaties are growing on me, though I haven't had many yet. I haven't seen the Weller's on the shelves. I have seen Old Fitzgerald but haven't gotten any yet. It may be a while before I do. I figure I spent over 2000 dollars on whiskey the first third of this year. I have to drink some of it before making any new purchases....

Anyway, I'm undecided till I can conduct more research!
Ed

BobA
05-26-2005, 12:08
I'm with all who said "it depends," but I still voted for rye. It seems that I have go a bit up the $ scale on wheat before I stop saying "Hmmm, needs ice." Really, every wheater I can think of this side of ORVW 10 yr I find notably lacking. But many rye bourbons on the middle, or even bottom, shelf are multi-dimensional winners.
Bob

halpap
05-26-2005, 12:34
I voted rye. Aside from Stagg, which is in a class by itself, my favorite bourbon is ER17, another rye. There are some pretty good wheaties too. I am open to doing additional sampling and changing my mind.

Firefighter
05-26-2005, 16:00
Probably a dumb question, but is there a list somewhere of which major bourbons are wheaters and which push the rye? I don't know enough yet to know if I have a preference or a trend - my favorites right now are ER10, EC12, Woodfords, and Rare Breed.

bobbyc
05-26-2005, 17:45
I don't know enough yet to know if I have a preference or a trend - my favorites right now are ER10, EC12, Woodfords, and Rare Breed.




Not a wheater in that bunch.

They are ( Wheaters) The Vanwinkles, WL Weller, Old Fitzgerald, Rebel Yell, Maker's Mark.

sharkman
05-26-2005, 21:00
Rye is pulling a big lead!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/duel.gif

sharkman
05-26-2005, 21:13
Bob,

I'll agree. It does depend. And I started the poll. My main reason for the poll is to see where the taste of this group of real bourbon drinkers leans. This whole thing came to mind when I bought a bottle of Makers after not having it on my shelf for a very long time (harder to get bottles took center stage). Well, I always liked MM. But when I tasted my first pour in several months, I was disappointed. Lacks character. Your "ice" statement is right on! I have an opened bottle of Weller 19. Wheaty as it gets, right? (It's the other side of the fence from Stagg...) Now THAT is a good whiskey. I do also like the smoothness and sweetness of Rebel Yell. One of my favorite everyday type pours. But my heart goes to the rye!

Thanks everyone who voted so far and to everyone who will.

BobA
05-27-2005, 10:38
Well, my "notably lacking" comment may have been too much. I like Rebel Yell over ice as a good, cheap, relaxing pour. Similar likes for Weller SR, MM, and Old Fitz, although "cheap" doesn't really fit the MM. Basically, all bourbon is good for me, I just seem to get more out of the rye recipes.

Haven't seen a bottle of Weller 19, but if I do, I'll probably get it on the strength of the Centennial I have, and comments here.

Bob

bobbyc
05-27-2005, 20:21
Haven't seen a bottle of Weller 19, but if I do, I'll probably get it on the strength of the Centennial I have, and comments here.



Don't forget your 225 bucks! (http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/42685/an//page//vc/1) !

CrispyCritter
05-27-2005, 21:43
My vote went for rye... but I'm another one for "it depends on my mood." It's sort of like asking me, when I'm in the mood for Scotch, whether I prefer sherry or peat.

I guess, for either "wheat or rye" or "sherry or peat," the answer is "yes." http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif

BobA
05-28-2005, 21:31
Oh. Nevermind.

I'm willing to spend for some good stuff, but that's 10 bottles of OGD 114. Or a bunch of other things.

Bob

sharkman
06-21-2005, 22:15
Congratulations Rye!!! You win!!!


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The people have spoken.

BourbonJoe
06-22-2005, 05:31
Boy, this is a tough one. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif IMHO I think ATC that a really good wheater beats out a rye mash.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

squire
07-17-2005, 19:27
On this question I have to firmly state, well, it depends. I am equally pleased by Barton 100 Proof or Weller's Antique 107.

I suppose if asked what would be my choice for mixing cocktails for company I would use a rye version and for catching up on my reading alone in my library a wheat expression.

Regards,
Squire

OscarV
02-04-2007, 16:44
I voted rye because of all the Wild Turkey's and Four Roses Single Barrel.
But how can you lose with a wheater?,... Van Winkle, Maker's Mark, W L Weller, and Old Fitzgerald.
It's all gooood.

fitzharry
02-04-2007, 17:39
Hi There,
I am not going to vote...
Anyway, I'm undecided till I can conduct more research!
Ed

What Ed said.

Although I haven't tried a lot of wheaters, I do really enjoy my OGD 114 and Wild Turkey Rare Breed. However, the ORVW 10/107 is nothing to sneeze at...

Harrison

TNbourbon
02-04-2007, 21:09
Well, I see the last post in this thread until today was 18 months ago, and I still don't have a strong commitment to one or the other. I guess it just depends on what I'm enjoying at the moment.
I see no point in choosing one at this point, either.

barturtle
02-04-2007, 21:48
Well, I see the last post in this thread until today was 18 months ago, and I still don't have a strong commitment to one or the other. I guess it just depends on what I'm enjoying at the moment.
I see no point in choosing one at this point, either.

And here I thought threads were locked after a period of time...maybe old stuff hasn't be automatically locked by the new software?

I'll choose BOTH, yeah, call me a glutton, but I want variety and will get it one way or another

nor02lei
02-04-2007, 23:33
Well, I see the last post in this thread until today was 18 months ago, and I still don't have a strong commitment to one or the other. I guess it just depends on what I'm enjoying at the moment.
I see no point in choosing one at this point, either.

That goes for me as well.

Leif

Edward_call_me_Ed
02-05-2007, 02:04
While I really like wheaters I really love a good rye bourbon.

Ed