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bourbonchef1189
09-05-2005, 10:02
As a newbee and someone who loves bourbon. May I ask what bourbon do you guys drink and why. I enjoy Makers Mark and knob creek when I can afford it.
Thanks

kbuzbee
09-05-2005, 10:17
As a newbee and someone who loves bourbon. May I ask what bourbon do you guys drink and why. I enjoy Makers Mark and knob creek when I can afford it.
Thanks



Hi and welcome to the forum. There are several threads along this line already going (they take flight then fall off) so you will find a lot of good reading doing a few searchs.

That said, it really runs in cycles. For several years it was Rare Breed. That was about the only Bourbon I'd drink. Then one day (about 6 years ago) I had my first Blanton's. Wow, was that good. That opened the door for many years trying everything I could find. Right now, I have two favorites, depending on my mood. For most days, it's Kentucky Spirit, Wild Turkey's Single Barrel offering, it's bold but at the same time very civilized and easy to drink. On days that I want a bit more, it's Booker's. It hits the palate much harder but the intense flavors in there make it a most enjoyable pour, I'd never have guessed the proof was so high. I would imagine availability is a big issue for you, yes?

Cheers,

Ken

kbuzbee
09-05-2005, 10:20
. I would imagine availability is a big issue for you, yes?



... or are you closer to Atlana than I remembered??

Ken

RedVette
09-05-2005, 11:49
In order to keep this hobby somewhat close to a budget, I try to keep my everyday pours to Bourbon's that sell for less than $20. This is not much of a hardship, as there are quite a few excellent choices at this price. Elijah Craig 12, Old Grand Dad Bonded, Corner Creek, Jim Beam Black, Old Charter, Ancient Ancient Age, and a couple of the Wellers all fall in this range. I have posted a few bargains that I have found on sale lately that puts a few more in this category, most recently Elmer T Lee. There a couple that are even close to $10 that are tasty and worthy of drinking, Old Forester comes to mind, but I have yet to find a sub $10 Bourbon that I can drink regularly.

I collect and enjoy the more expensive items as well, but can't (won't more accurately)afford them as everyday pours, more like once a week.

BourbonJoe
09-05-2005, 12:40
I have over 75 bourbons in my collection right now. A lot of these are high end bottlings which I consume very gingerly. My everyday pours are the cheap and easy to find stuff like Heaven Hill (for mixing), Ezra Brooks, Evan Williams Black Label and Evan Williams 1783. All quite drinkable.
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bourbonchef1189
09-05-2005, 12:46
I'm about 40 miles from downtown Atlanta. I work in Griffin which is 25 miles south of downtown Atlanta.
Griffin is a little bigger than Bradstown which I visted three years ago. I wish I would have brought more that three bottles of buffalo trace back home. Can't get it in Georgia. There is not alot of choices in my small town.

Special Reserve
09-05-2005, 13:10
Not an everyday pour but my standard pour is Weller Antique. I really like this a lot.

kbuzbee
09-05-2005, 14:02
In order to keep this hobby somewhat close to a budget, I try to keep my everyday pours to Bourbon's that sell for less than $20. This is not much of a hardship, as there are quite a few excellent choices at this price. Elijah Craig 12, Old Grand Dad Bonded, Corner Creek, Jim Beam Black, Old Charter, Ancient Ancient Age, and a couple of the Wellers all fall in this range. I have posted a few bargains that I have found on sale lately that puts a few more in this category, most recently Elmer T Lee. There a couple that are even close to $10 that are tasty and worthy of drinking, Old Forester comes to mind, but I have yet to find a sub $10 Bourbon that I can drink regularly.

I collect and enjoy the more expensive items as well, but can't (won't more accurately)afford them as everyday pours, more like once a week.



Absolutely. It's a function of how much does a bottle cost, how much do you consume and how much do you have to spend (this discussion is 'neat' mixers are completely different). So if you have $50 a month to spend on Bourbon you can drink 1 Bookers or 1.5 Kentucky Spirits or 5 $10 bottles of Ten High??? Which fits your personal needs?? I also like some less expensive pours but very few of them are available here.

Ken

camduncan
09-05-2005, 14:41
My current budget pours are Jim Beam White (with coke), Nelson County (A Heaven Hill product), Evan Williams Black Label and Elijah Craig 12yo. All are priced between $30 & $40 AU except Nelson County which is around $25 AU - as is Jim Beam White when it's on special...
Once I hit the $40 -$60 price point, I start on Makers, Evan Williams Single Barrel, Bulleit and Wild Turkey Rare Breed.

brian12069
09-05-2005, 14:44
I don't seem to have an everyday pour. I seem to like a lot of different ones and I enjoy sampling as many as I can. I have a few that I always have in my collection: Bookers, Van Winkle, Weller, and I love Jack Daniel's and Gentleman Jack (I know...Jacks not bourbon)

ratcheer
09-05-2005, 17:51
Wild Turkey 101 is pretty much my everyday pour. Whenever I run out, I just about always replace it as soon as possible. It just tastes right, to me.

Tim

musher
09-05-2005, 18:22
I agree. I have way too many choices to have an everyday pour.

BobA
09-05-2005, 18:25
I have several that I like to rotate through and taste, depending on what I feel like. But three you should be able to find fairly easily that have a lot admirers here are Old Granddad Bottled in Bond 100 pf., Old Charter 90 pf. 12-yr. old "The Classic," and Very Old Barton 90. All are under $20, except the VOB, which should be under $10, and are each different, but good. If I remember correctly, the liquor store over by the Tanger Outlet on I-75 has a good selection.

Bob

BobA
09-05-2005, 18:45
I realized I didn't anwser your "why" question. Price is certainly a big part. On fishing trips, I'll take a couple of open bottles to put out on the table, and these I know that no one will talk about me bringing swill, and if someone takes a fancy to one and it disappears, no biggie (Booker's I'd feel a bit).

I think of all three as complex, but the main feature I think of on the OGD is the spicy rye twang, upfront on the tongue. The Charter is described as sweet by many, and if I'm looking for it, I certainly see what they're talking about (a quick candy feeling), but I mostly think of "dry", especially on the finish. The VOB I think of as sort of a quintessential, standard bourbon.

Bob

camduncan
09-05-2005, 18:50
Sadly none are available Downunder http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smiley_acbt.gif

gr8erdane
09-05-2005, 19:17
Like many others here I have a pretty big selection to choose from and could probably drink a little from each one and take a long time to make a visible dent in them. However, I tend to like to pick up 1.75s from time to time and keep a couple handy by my PC for "casual sipping". Currently I have EW 1873 and Rebel Yell sitting there. Both were fairly cheap and quite drinkable. Of course the nightcap is usually something I pick from the many others on the shelf depending on the mood. On Thursday nights though during the chat session I usually bring up three or four bottles that I may not have tasted in a while. Can't just let them sit idle you know.

BobA
09-05-2005, 19:18
Sorry, Bourbonchef's in my area so I focused on things I knew he should be able to find. I occaisionally lament my inability to get hold of a handful of bourbons and ryes I'd like to sample, but then I hear from some of the overseas bourbon lovers like yourself and realize how fortunate I am.

I am a little surprised that OGD can't be had there. Beam certainly has the supply and marketing reach. I sometimes worry that they just don't really have any plans for the OGD line. OK with me if they don't mess it up, but that might mean they throw it away.

Bob

mobourbon
09-05-2005, 19:43
Wild Turkey 101 is pretty much my everyday pour.



I agree, Tim. WT 101 has a good taste and it is priced right for an everyday pour. $20 in PA. Very affordable.

kbuzbee
09-06-2005, 05:23
Wild Turkey 101 is pretty much my everyday pour.



I agree, Tim. WT 101 has a good taste and it is priced right for an everyday pour. $20 in PA. Very affordable.



Agreed WT101 is a fine Bourbon!

Ken

jspero
09-06-2005, 06:38
I'm pretty new to exploring the bourbon world having been a Jack drinker for many years. So far I've tried the following in the past 8 weeks:

Weller 12yo
Eagle Rare 101
Elmer T. Lee (Edit - forgot to add this REALLY good one)
Evan Williams 1783 10yo
Knob Creek
Wild Turkey 101
Jim Beam White
Pikesville Rye (I'm from MD so I HAD to try it)

Out of all of these, I consistanly go back to the Weller 12yo. The only one I didn't like at all was the Beam White, which I dumped (it was a mini - a good way to try a lot of brands cheaply by the way).

Of course, I have a lot of tasting left, but I think the Weller 12 yo is the benchmark for what I like. At under $20, I think it will be hard to do better for a frequent pour.

Jay

nor02lei
09-06-2005, 07:22
When it comes to real cheap American whiskey I will come back to these brands in the different categories. G. Dickel nr 12, Wild Turkey 101 and Rittenhouse 10 years.

Chaz7
09-06-2005, 08:45
I too am relatively new to the forum. But because of it I have found some great pours. I am just now settling in on an "everyday pour" after finding (and drinking) as many new bourbons as financially possible. So, what I have found under $20.00, are, in no particular order: Buffalo Trace, Ancient Ancient Age 10 STAR (surprised me at $11.00!), Evan Williams Single Barrel 1995 (has to be on sale to qualify for under $20). Realize, there are many I have yet to sample, but if you find ANY old Rip Van Winkle products on sale under $20, run, do,t walk to your nearest outlet!

brewcrew
09-06-2005, 14:30
I still feel pretty new to the forum also. My everyday favorites have become Buffalo Trace, Weller 12, Rittenhouse BIB & Jim Beam Black.

bourbonchef1189
09-06-2005, 15:51
In Georgia you can't get Buffalo Trace or Weller or most of the other bourbons you guys get to enjoy. I think we he the highest taxes on distilled sprits of any other state.
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Isoflex
09-06-2005, 21:39
Welcome to the list! (one novice to another)

The bottles I replace once gone and consider everyday bourbons:
Rebel Yell
Fighting Cock 103
Many W.L. Weller permutations
Wild Turkey Rye - not bourbon but a relative right?!?
Knob Creek (though kinda on the high end of everyday)
Elijah Craig 12 y.o.

Long list but ones I consider very good values.

BobA
09-07-2005, 10:32
I don't think it's taxes. Looking at prices mentioned on this board and some limited travels, we seem to be middle of the road. The problem seems to be some idiosyncracies of distribution. The company that makes Buffalo Trace (not available) also makes Ancient Age and Old Charter, which are in most GA stores. I think each "label" has (at least potentially) a separate distributor. Buffalo Trace also makes Weller, which you should be able to find without too much trouble; I notice the Antique and SR on shelves a lot.

Good luck.

Bob

Ken Weber
09-07-2005, 12:36
If you can find some SKUs of Weller, then the stores should be able to get the rest of the family. Regarding Buffalo Trace, we are having a problem with some of our distributors there and are reluctant to give anyone our flagship brand at this time. Since GA is a franchise state, if we give BT to distributor A, they keep it forever. If we are not happy with their peformance, it takes an act of God to pull the brand from them. We can give it to another distributor, but when you have 2 distributors in the same market selling your product, neither one will invest any money in promoting the brand. Why will distributor B actively invest in promoting the brand only to have distributor A undersell them and steal the business. This is a rotten Catch-22, but still a reality of the business.

Ken

bourbonchef1189
09-07-2005, 15:16
Thanks for all the helpful info. There is so many bourbons I would like to try.I've had buffalo trace and it was great. I'm going back to Kentucky in the spring to take some tours and boot leg some bourbon back to the peach state. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

BrbnBorderline
09-07-2005, 16:28
Weller Antique, WT Rare Breed and 101, OGD 114 are my "everyday" rotation.

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gr8erdane
09-07-2005, 21:51
If you're going in the spring, you ought to think about coming for the Sampler and joining us at the Gazebo. Great bourbon and great people to drink it with. And you get to taste not only bourbons not readily available in your area because of distribution limitations but also many that just plain aren't made anymore. Hope to see you there!

jeff
09-08-2005, 04:34
My everyday bourbons are AAA 10yo and Weller 12yo. Both could be double the cost and I would still buy them. At the moment I have a 1.75 of tax-stamped TW Samuels and a 1.75, early '80s Old Yellowstone I'm drinking from and using to make Leslie's Manhattans.

Gillman
09-08-2005, 05:16
For my daily pour I use my own personal blendings of bourbon and straight rye, and these either will chase a beer or half of one, or go into a Manhattan or Sazerac.

Sometimes I'll just take a neat straight bourbon. Last night it was my 50/50 combination of Hirsch 16 gold foil and gold wax versions (not really a blend since it is the same whiskey although the combo seems better than either alone, go figure). The other night, Rare Breed. Since we don't except for Wild Turkey and Beam White really have low-cost bourbons in Ontario, I'll sometimes sample a Canadian rye for an "everyday", e.g., Limited Edition from Crown Royal which is very good and quite different to the usual run of Canadian whisky, or Lot 40, or Royal Reserve.

Gary

Edward_call_me_Ed
09-08-2005, 08:10
I have only seen Rip Van Winkle mentioned a couple of times. If you like Maker's Mark you will love Rip Van Winkle. The 10 year old is light years better than Maker's in my opinion. I don't know about pricing where you are, but here in Japan, when I can find Rip Van Winkle 10, it is cheaper than Maker's Mark Red. Evan Williams black label is excellent at it's price point. Evan Williams any-label will not let you down. Ancient Age is a good cheap pour, too. Not as good as its older siblings, but a fine, if mild, pour at its price point.
Ed

CrispyCritter
09-08-2005, 20:51
AAA 10yo is definitely a nice pour!

Other favorites of mine in the "everyday" category:
Bourbon: OGD 114, Old Fitzgerald BIB, Buffalo Trace
Rye: Rittenhouse Rye BIB
Canadian: Wiser's 10yo, Forty Creek (either version)
SMSW: Ardbeg 10yo, Aberlour 10yo
Blended Scotch: Compass Box Asyla

As far as best bourbon bang-for-the-buck, it depends on which is on sale. BT and OGD 114 are a bit more complex than the AAA and Old Fitz, but all are fine pours.

I'd count the Canadians as "ryes" as well, even though they don't say "rye" on the label; their taste profiles have a lot in common with the Rittenhouse.

The Scotches are a bit pricier than the others, but are reasonable around here (especially the Asyla and Aberlour). The Ardbeg's price has jumped a bit lately ($45 at Binny's last time I checked), but I have a number of bottles bunkered from a store that was selling them at $30... I think I cleaned them out one bottle at a time. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gillman
09-09-2005, 04:00
Just on a sidenote I want to thank you for your comment that Canadian whisky is part of the rye whiskey family. I am the first to agree that Canadian whisky does not have a straight whiskey palate. Still, it is certainly related in taste to straight rye, and the reason is, many Canadian whiskies have some straight rye in them. Either matured straight rye whiskey is added to matured high-proof spirit, or new low-proof rye distillate is added to new high proof distillate and they are aged together, as Canadian Club is. I have decided to bring some Royal Reserve or Schenley OFC or Limited Edition to Gazebo so people can see this. Some Canadians have less of a rye taste than others, e.g., some are very bland, but many still have the rye tang. And if they don't have enough, add a sprinkling of Rittenhouse or Sazerac 18 year old rye to your glass of Canadian and make it taste more traditional. I like to get a complex-tasting dram that is very rye-tasting but with a softer and rounder taste than straight rye often has (although I like a number of straight ryes unblended, e.g., Michter's Straight Rye, Rittenhouse 10 year old or ORVW 12 year old). One of my best essays in this vein is a blending of Forty Creek's 3 Grain, the same company's Barrel Select and Royal Reserve rye whisky (Corby/Hiram Walker). The result is close I believe to the storied Maryland rye whiskeys or some of them anyway. I say that because there is evidence a fruit-based agent was used to blend the base whiskeys in Maryland (which might have been all-straight or a blend of straight and high proof or other non-straight whiskeys). I added no flavouring to my version but you can taste some sherry influence from the sherry barrels in which some of the Forty Creek whisky was finished. This is an absolutely superb drink and I may bring some of that too. Shucks there is so much I could bring of interest but only some will make the final cut!

All these whiskies are related, as indeed they are to bourbon and vice versa. They are all variations on the theme of North American cereal-derived whiskies (and that makes me a lumper not a splitter, true) and your perception of identity between Rittenhouse and Canadian proves the point.

Gary

bourbonchef1189
09-10-2005, 06:01
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If you're going in the spring, you ought to think about coming for the Sampler and joining us at the Gazebo. Great bourbon and great people to drink it with

That would be wonderful to taste bourbon with true Connoisseurs of bourbon. There is so much I want to learn.

bourbonchef1189
09-10-2005, 06:07
Thanks to everyone for all the great info. I went to my local package store after work and found a bottle of W.L. Weller special reserve. Very nice!
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bourbonchef1189
09-10-2005, 10:44
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If you can find some SKUs of Weller, then the stores should be able to get the rest of the family.

Thanks, I found two Wellers one is special reserve and original 107 brand. Both were very nice! I asked my local package store owner if he could get some Buffalo trace and he said he would try. When I was in bradstown three years ago I brought back three bottle of buffalo trace and shared them with my friends and they all loved it.

TonyM
09-20-2005, 11:19
Welcome to the club!!

Here are some of my favorite everydays. I hope they are available where you are:

Weller 12YR
Eagle Rare 10YR SB
Buffalo Trace
Evan Williams 10YR SB

Cheers!!

Tony

Chaz7
09-20-2005, 13:53
David, I'm hoping you have been able to aquire some of the bourbons mentioned, especially anything from the Van Winkle family. I just picked up a Weller Centennial, and I will now look for the 12yo. I have heard some good things about it. I have a brother in law in Atlanta, and he says he gets a good assortment. I think I will ask him what that means, after your comments on availability. I may need to rescue his palate! Chaz

bourbonchef1189
09-20-2005, 15:47
I have a brother in law in Atlanta, and he says he gets a good assortment. I think I will ask him what that means, after your comments on availability. I may need to rescue his palate! Chaz



Thanks, I live about 40 miles South of Atlanta, In my part of the world there is not much more than the dusty bottle of Weller in the corner of the package store. Which I have discovered thanks to all the wonderful advice from people on this site. Makers and knob creek are the top shelf stuff around here.

Nevill
09-20-2005, 19:55
Hey, uh, if we admit we drink it every day, isn't that admitting we have a "problem"? So far I have tried:
Elmer T. Lee
Elijah Craig 12 yo
Buffalo Trace
Ancient Ancient Age
Knob Creek
Of these, I like the Buffalo Trace the best. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
And currenty posses but have yet to try:
Wild Turkey Rare Breed
Wild Turkey 101
Old Forrester b-day
Four roses single barrel

Chaz7
09-21-2005, 10:15
Neville, I'm with you. I now have 25 bottles open, and I do drink practically one a day. Even my doctor says one drink a day is good for you. I'm hoping two drinks will be TWICE as good!

Geo
09-21-2005, 12:13
For me its:

Old Weller Antique
Wild Turkey 101
Old Grand Dad 114

On special occasions:

Pappy's Family Reserve 15 yr
George T Stagg

ratcheer
09-21-2005, 17:00
Nope, I can't get those.

Tim