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Sweetmeats
10-28-2005, 13:32
Interesting article on Knob Creek and Fred Noe. However, this writer says that Knob Creek is the number one premium bourbon in the world. Is that true or just this writer's opinion?

http://www.gotriad.com/article/articleview/16796/1/95/
NorCalBoozer
10-28-2005, 13:37
i think he left out the word "selling" inbetween "one" and "premium"

this sounds more logical "Knob Creek is the number one selling premium bourbon in the world"

It's not even the best in the Beam small batch lineup IMHO.
wku88
11-25-2005, 07:37
Mabey I'm just biased as a Bill Samuels disciple, but none of the Beam brands excite me except Black label. Knob Creek, Booker's, et al are overpriced for what they are IMO. They do have a great marketing department though http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/coffeedrinker.gif
TNbourbon
11-25-2005, 07:42
...They do have a great marketing department though http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/coffeedrinker.gif



You really are a Bill Samuels disciple, aren't you?! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
kbuzbee
11-25-2005, 07:49
MM - now THERE is a great marketing department. The lucite tumblers they sent out this summer were great as travel glasses. We took 'em to KY this fall. And the return address labels they just sent are very cool (I doubt we'll be using the MM Chrismas cards though. Just doesn't seem to be the right message for Christmas. Pity, they're very nice.. My wife (who hates Bourbon) even tells everybody how she got to dip her bottle in the red wax. You gotta love it!

Ken
wku88
11-25-2005, 08:07
...They do have a great marketing department though http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/coffeedrinker.gif



You really are a Bill Samuels disciple, aren't you?! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif



Yeah, I guess so, but I've been drinking MM long before Bill made it "trendy". I drink what I like, not what some ad tells me I should like. Beam and JD sell a heckuva lot of spirit, but they aren't worth drowning in cola IMO. Beam Black is a notable exception. But what do I know, I like Old Charter 8yr. for an around the house sippin' whisky.
barturtle
11-25-2005, 08:24
Yeah, I guess so, but I've been drinking MM long before Bill made it "trendy". I drink what I like, not what some ad tells me I should like. Beam and JD sell a heckuva lot of spirit, but they aren't worth drowning in cola IMO.



Just in case you didn't catch the news Fortune Brands(ie. Jim Beam) now owns Makers.
http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/48580/an/0/page/0#48580
wku88
11-25-2005, 15:42
Just in case you didn't catch the news Fortune Brands(ie. Jim Beam) now owns Makers.
http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/48580/an/0/page/0#48580



Please, just shoot me now.... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif
barturtle
11-25-2005, 16:02
Makers has had several owners (IIRC Johnny Walker was the first after the Samuels) and most have been very hands off. It is still to be determined whether Fortune Brands will be as easy going with them. What I fear the most is that I know of no export only bottlings from Beam, could this be the end of the Black Label http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif or could it become available everywhere? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Hey at least this is a company that cares about whiskey and won't run them into the ground or let them die of neglect like some other companies have done, both to bourbon and scotch distilleries.

Editing myself here it was Hiram Walker in 1981
bobbyc
11-25-2005, 18:16
Please, just shoot me now....



No that will not do... You found us now...Welcome to the board, it can be fun at times! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

May I ask,are you familiar with the Regans Book of Bourbon?
wku88
11-25-2005, 18:32
Thanks, Timothy, I'm aware of the other owners, and I'm sure that the "hands off" by investors won't last much longer. I know Bill and Booker were tight, I hope Fred is likewise, and will keep MM small, and true to form.

I haven't heard of the Regan's book,mebbe I need to look for it.

BTW, I have an indirect link to Samuels, as my uncle owns the old T.W. Samuels distillery in Deatsville, across from some of Heaven Hill's barns. Sadly, nothing is made there today. Uncle had a bottled water operation there until family health issues forced operations to cease.
bobbyc
11-25-2005, 18:49
I haven't heard of the Regan's book,mebbe I need to look for it.



It's a good read, I think it is out of print. A happy coincidence then. They have a rating system and "Around the House Bourbon" is a rating used by them.

Interesting the family tie to that distillery.
barturtle
11-25-2005, 21:01
An excellent book, usually a copy or two available used on Amazon, though it'll set you back the price of 2-3 bottles. I've also heard good things about Chuck Cowdery's "Bourbon, Straight"(it's on my Amazon wish list).