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jeff
12-28-2005, 03:47
As you're sitting in front of your computer reading this forum, what's in your glass? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
12-28-2005, 06:02
Tonight I poured myself a nice big splash of Blanton's Gold. This particular bottle of Blanton's isn't my favorite of that line. That said it is still pretty fine bourbon. Now, what shall I have next...
Ed

Edward_call_me_Ed
12-28-2005, 06:04
This is strange. All the posts in this thread are gone now. Only Jeff's first post and my last one are showing now. How odd.
Ed

Oh, I see. The original thread has been locked or something.

Rughi
12-28-2005, 06:06
Looks like it's a year end "out with the old, in with the new".

Perhaps 404 posts in the old thread was making it a bit unwieldy.

Roger

RedVette
12-28-2005, 15:54
I'll play, Sam Houston is in the glass tonight. We don't talk about this one much on this forum, but it is an awfully nice drink. I think this one is a close cousin in flavor to ETL/Buffalo Trace, but I know that it is not a BT bottled product. It is a little dryer, but close.

ChuckMick
12-28-2005, 18:09
As you're sitting in front of your computer reading this forum, what's in your glass? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif





Well I coun't resist posting as I'm sitting here with a wee dram of four roses SB. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I decided to purchase a bottle since they sent me a member card for their mellow moments club. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif This is a really spectacular drink. I guess it is the 30%+ rye that is in it. At least that is what I remember someone telling me. I need to plan a field trip. soon.


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Chuck

BrbnBorderline
12-28-2005, 19:14
As you're sitting in front of your computer reading this forum, what's in your glass? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif



Some OGD 114. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

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CrispyCritter
12-28-2005, 19:23
Well, I began with a nice pour of Hazmat II, with a teaspoon of water added. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

For a followup, I'm now trying something Irish: Power's Gold Label. Compared to the Stagg, it's quite gentle, but it's still a very nice pour, and inexpensive to boot...

nysquire
12-28-2005, 20:15
A 20year Pappy...........for the holidays!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

greenbob
12-28-2005, 21:53
Bulleit.

ProofPositive
12-28-2005, 22:21
EC12...been hard for me to stop going back nightly to this one since opening it mid-month. Every day, my plan when I get home that night is to open up one of several others I have picked up of late. Instead, I find myself going back to the BOTM. Oh well, there is always N-Y Eve coming up. Maybe time then to break out one of the other new ones, or, go with some already open WT or WLW for the occasion. At the same time though, nothing wrong in my book with staying with EC12 going into 2006! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

ratcheer
12-29-2005, 07:08
I bought a bottle of Bulleit, yesterday. I have too many open bottles now, so I haven't opened it, yet. How is it?

There still isn't anything of much interest at my Alabama ABC stores. I almost bought a bottle of Booker's at $52, but I really didn't need to spend that much.

Tim

ProofPositive
12-29-2005, 08:12
Never had/bought Bulleit. Interested to know more when you do open it. Seen any Eagle Rare 101 or 17yr in your neck of the woods? It has gotten pretty scarce up here in west Tennessee. Most have the ER10 but not others.

1holegrouper
12-29-2005, 09:12
It had been a while since I cracked open a bottle of Knob Creek. Wonderful complex yet balanced flavor.

chasking
12-29-2005, 10:07
I bought a bottle of Bulleit, yesterday. I have too many open bottles now, so I haven't opened it, yet. How is it?



I like it a lot.

Last night I had Rare Breed. I bought a bottle back when it was BOTM, but haven't really had much of it. I'm trying to figure out why.

ratcheer
12-29-2005, 12:28
Nope, I've never seen Eagle Rare in Alabama, not even when they had a pretty good bourbon selection (more than a year ago, now).

Tim

Hillbilly
12-29-2005, 12:43
I'm enjoying Russell's Reserve 101 right now on these cold mountain nights. There's still a pretty good supply left in many of the ABC stores here in Western North Carolina.

Chaz7
12-29-2005, 12:47
Last night, I spent the evening with my Old Grand dad; first the 114 then the BinB. The 114 is incredible for the price. Actually, the 100 is not too bad. I would be called a wheater by some of you, and that is what makes the 114 so unique to me. It is such a departure!Of course, this Tuesday night's Weller Antique was my bowl of wheaties.

fogfrog
12-29-2005, 16:28
Elijah Craig 12YO 94 proof neat followed by adding a little Ozarka! Its a good bourbon. I am learning to appreciate it and the other bourbons too.

Paul Cote

RedVette
12-29-2005, 16:46
Well Fog, you are having quite a journey. It has been fun watching your progress, since I was about where you were just two years ago. The new tastes and sensations await you, Pappy 23, Sazerac 18, all of Kusveens interesting pours, as well as the occasional Hirsch and Michters and Rare Turkeys.

Keep going, it is a fascinating trip.

barturtle
12-29-2005, 17:16
This evening, I decided to turn a pour of Sazerac into a Sazerac...not bad but the WT rye worked better. I think the Sazerac 18 is best all alone. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

CrispyCritter
12-29-2005, 17:58
I'm starting off with Weller Antique 107... not sure what I'll pour next.

EDIT: I ended up making it a wheater night - followups were Old Fitzgerald BIB and then Bernheim Straight Wheat...

I'm going to have to replace the Weller - it's almost empty now. Fortunately, the Fitz is a fairly new bottle, and the Bernheim is still over half full...

fogfrog
12-30-2005, 16:14
This time as I am sitting before the computer, I am drinking Evan Williams Single Barrel 1995! Very delicious!

Paul

tsangster
12-31-2005, 17:47
Started the evening with a small pour of Booker's. Novice impressions:

Nice amber color. Very faint citrus when nosed. After adding about 1/2 tsp of spring water I get cinnamon and tobacco (strange combination).

Following up with WT 101. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. This will always be in my cabinet - a fine every day bourbon.

Not as eloquent as some but there's my $0.02.

Happy New Year to all!

CrispyCritter
12-31-2005, 19:01
I'm currently having some William Larue Weller, with a teaspoon of water in a generous pour. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

I started out earlier with a single-grain Scotch (40yo Alloa via Hart Bros.), something that I don't pour often as I'm trying to conserve it. Once it's gone there will be no replacing it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smil41df29a15fb35.gif - but I did buy it to drink!

I'm not sure what my next pour will be...

ratcheer
12-31-2005, 19:56
I made a fairly awful cocktail with Knob Creek. I don't blame it on the whiskey, just my hare-brained recipe. I am drinking it, though. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I took a teaspoon and a half of Country Time raspberry flavored lemonade mix, about an ounce of water, and about two ounces of KC. After all was stirred up, I added about 6-8 small ice cubes.

The raspberry flavoring and the KC really clash. What can I say, it was an experiment gone bad. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Tim

ProofPositive
12-31-2005, 20:04
I started out the evening by committing blasphemy with a splash of JD/GJ http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/70358-devil.gif. However, I soon repented and righted myself by spending some time with Preacher Craig http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif having a pour of his 12yo elixir. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

As soon as things settle down here a bit after dinner, I am going to open my latest acquisition, Van Winkle Special Reserve 12. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif My plan is to kind of sit back & settle in at that point while spending the remainder of this year as well as the first minutes (or hours) of the new one with the some of the best! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.....AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

T47
12-31-2005, 20:52
I started off the evening with some Basil Hayden, then moved on to Evan Williams Single Barrel and I am finishing it off with Wild Turkey 101.
I now have a nice little variety going and have a wish list to go after. I see many people enjoy the A H HIRSCH 16 YR, would it be worth a one time $79.15 to try it? Wow, I see you can get it for much less on line...quite the mark up we have here in WA! A happy New-Years-Eve to you all.

ProofPositive
01-01-2006, 00:16
With the evening (or morning) winding down, I have absolutely no regrets bringing the Van Winkle Reserve 12 home today. It has been a wonderful finale for my 'pour' tour this evening. I must agree wholeheartedly, it is everything they say and more. I look forward to eventually trying the entire Van Winkle line.

kbuzbee
01-01-2006, 09:16
I made a fairly awful cocktail with Knob Creek. I don't blame it on the whiskey, just my hare-brained recipe. I am drinking it, though. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I took a teaspoon and a half of Country Time raspberry flavored lemonade mix, about an ounce of water, and about two ounces of KC. After all was stirred up, I added about 6-8 small ice cubes.

The raspberry flavoring and the KC really clash. What can I say, it was an experiment gone bad. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Tim



Interesting Tim, I bet a splash of 7 up would have cleaned that right up for you.

For us, my son in law and I reviewed a couple explerssions of GT Stagg last night. The most recent release was our favorite of the evening. Even at 142proof it is just chauk full of all kinds of great flavors. Vanilla, carmel, maple. Just yummy!

A very happy New Year to all!

Ken

RedVette
01-01-2006, 16:37
Tonight started at 2 this afternoon.

1st Elmer T Lee
2nd Eagle Rare 17
3rd Pappy 15

One glass every two hours is sustainable. Go Kidneys go.

Trying to decide on number 4.

I'm thinking Classic Cask 20, let's make this a very good new year.

Schock
01-01-2006, 17:08
Here's a good one that doesn't show up on the list very often, Echo Springs. It has a nice smooth caramel flavor. It is terrific for a $10 a bottle 4yr old.

Jimmy

Barrel_Proof
01-01-2006, 17:25
Here's a good one that doesn't show up on the list very often, Echo Springs. It has a nice smooth caramel flavor. It is terrific for a $10 a bottle 4yr old.

Jimmy


TSA's finest stole a bottle of Echo Springs from me the same day Stagg 2003 became known as HazMat.

doubleblank
01-01-2006, 17:46
The gang from Texas got together to fry things today....turkeys, pork roasts, chickens, etc. Gregg, Jeff, Perry and I put this together. Started with Four Roses SB, then Old Bardstown 10yo and finally the Weller 12yo SB we purchased at the Fest. Some newbies went for the Fall Stagg ...... all liked it. Currently enjoying the Weller 12yo SB......and that the Texans lost the Bush Bowl. Oh wait.....we won the Bush Bowl.

Randy

RedVette
01-01-2006, 17:53
Tonight started at 2 this afternoon.

1st Elmer T Lee
2nd Eagle Rare 17
3rd Pappy 15

One glass every two hours is sustainable. Go Kidneys go.

Trying to decide on number 4.

I'm thinking Classic Cask 20, let's make this a very good new year.



OK, the kidneys are obviously not keeping up, they must be punished.

#5 Blantons Barrel Proof. That will teach them.

Barrel_Proof
01-01-2006, 17:58
Started with Four Roses SB, then ... .



Started the evening the same place -- should have been Rose Bowl Day after all. Now suffering through a glass of Hirsch 20 next to one of original Pappy 23, with Bettye Jo's favorite chaser (not really, but close) on the side. Life is tough in 2006. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BobA
01-01-2006, 18:12
Saz 18, the 2003. Been sort of hoarding it, but found a bottle of the 2005 over the holidays (actually, found three bottles and am already regretting leaving town with only one), so am pouring more freely to reacquaint myself with it before opening the 2005.
Bob

TNbourbon
01-01-2006, 18:17
I enjoyed a couple of ounces of EC12 with my ham-sandwich supper, and am sipping some Old Weller Antique 107 (gold-veined -- thanks, Cliff! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif). I'm trying to empty some long-opened bottles, too (recent 'dead soldiers' include a 12yo Ezra Brooks from 1972, a couple of Pappy 23shttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, Rittenhouse 10yo BIB, and Evan Williams 15yo) so I can open some new 'blood'. Tonight's likeliest prospects include a Spring 2005 Stagg and/or 1962/'68 Old Fitz BIB. As Cliff says, life's tough.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ProofPositive
01-01-2006, 23:53
Sipping some more VWSR that I started last night. Dropped in a cube of ice and a splash of Apple Juice. Turned out great! Never tried bourbon + AJ, but it was mentioned on here over the weekend. Thought I would give it a try and it is quite good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

camduncan
01-01-2006, 23:56
Tonight after a very hot day at the beach (sunburn and all http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) I'm enjoying a Bulleit & Coke in a long tall glass with lots of ice http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

BourbonJoe
01-02-2006, 05:29
Hey Cam,
I'll be glad to send you some snow.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

jeff
01-02-2006, 16:39
Tonight I'm drinking a wee bit of 10yo Old Crow that I decanted from a green pawn, part of the Chess set purchased by several members of this site in 2004. Lots of floral and fruit notes with a relatively thin body and short finish. This is a nice bourbon, but I can't help but think this one has suffered a bit from long-term storage in the decanter. Still, this Old Crow is far superior to the swill currently being bottled under the same label.

BourbonBalls
01-02-2006, 17:07
Tonite, as I post this, Im having a Weller 107 Antique....and just before, a William Larue Weller. Both wheated, both wonderful. The same stuff? Im not sure. I diluted the WLW 3:1. The Antique seems a wee bit sweeter.

Love those wonderful wheats

T47
01-02-2006, 21:39
What am I drinking…lets see, what shall fit my mood after a disastrous weekend of failed home repairs. I have decided to finish of the Basil Hayden, probably too smooth a drink for my mood, but the bottle is at that level which will require a longer pour to protect the integrity of the drink that would have remained. So even though my home repairs did not go well, I shall sleep well, knowing I have made a decision which will help to protect my stock, and open up a space for the next bottle to grace my pantry. Resource management! I am in the first baby steps of becoming a connoisseur!

NYtaster
01-03-2006, 18:40
Currently on my third pour of WT RB, an all time fav., not a bad way to spend the evening!!!!

Tim

ProofPositive
01-03-2006, 21:40
A shot of EC-12 on a rock with a splash of apple juice....http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif....not bad, not bad at all.

Virus_Of_Life
01-03-2006, 23:56
Eagle Rare Single Barrel, bought it for new years and amazingly enough it lasted through the night... Will not make it through this week though! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

CrispyCritter
01-04-2006, 16:21
I'm having EC 12 neat at the moment. It seems like I have a tendency to overlook this bottle, only to find that whenever I pour a glass, I really like it... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

ProofPositive
01-04-2006, 23:17
VAN WINKLE SR 12 Lot B http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif


AND

TEXAS LONGHORNS #1 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

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lakegz
01-04-2006, 23:48
Eagle Rare 10 year single barrel

And DOWN WITH USC!! (coming from a UCLA alum http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

BobA
01-05-2006, 10:39
Last night was OGD 114. I tried to get some of the specific fruits others have mentioned, but my palate is just not that sophisticated. No "dried banana" but did get "rich," "fruity," "caramel," and "really, really good."
Bob

TNbourbon
01-06-2006, 20:11
I'm resampling the 90-proof Van Winkle line tonight: began with some 'real' Stitzel-Weller 1969 Cabin Still 8yo from one of those hillbilly decanters; followed with some ORVW (Frankfort) 10/90; followed up with some Pappy (Lawrenceburg clear-glass; actually 90.4 proof) 20yo; and currently have some VWFRR "E" series in the glass. Alas, my Pappy 23s are recently retired, and my sole remaining Old Time 12yo rye is reserved for a Sampler rye lineup, or I'd have the gamut. As it is, I've completed the 'lifetime' gamut. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif
Julian, merit badges or anything? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BourbonJoe
01-06-2006, 20:25
Had a J.W. Dant from 1959 tonight. We just got drinking Pappy 20, Hirsch 16, Wt-12, etc. The Dant blew em' away.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

Frodo
01-06-2006, 23:22
Thursday...

<u>Bookers</u>: Suprised by how complex it was. I've had Beam products before (Bakers, Basil Hayden & Knob Creek) and was disapointed - but may have to revisit them. Couldn't drink Bookers before, but this time, just added a bit of water.
<u>Blantons</u>: Just as I remembered it. Honey and oak. Uncomplicated but sublime! Usually have to add water to overstrength whiskies, but this one did just fine at 54%.
<u>Woodford Reserve</u>: Does not measure up to the other two IMO, but is a nice dram. Wouldn't say no to a pour, but would prefer buying Elmer T. Lee if it's with my own money (both are $40 at the LCBO).

ProofPositive
01-06-2006, 23:23
Gone back to the basics tonite....and, what many consider one of the best ever made - that good ole Wild Turkey 101. I may slow it down a bit toward the end and cap off the evening with a splash of JDGJ on the rocks. After all that, I still have to get up at 7 (CST) & go to work....less than 6 hours away! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

ratcheer
01-07-2006, 08:01
That is wonderful. Today, J. W. Dant is a bottom shelfer, if you can find it at all. They had the BIB in the Alabama ABC until they started paring down the bourbon selection about two years ago. As I recall, it was around $11. And in reasonably priced states, it would be much less.

Tim

NYtaster
01-08-2006, 18:46
I've been going backwards through my WT family. I finished the RB and RR yesterday so I'm drinking the RR 101 tonight. I have been experimenting with different additions of water and ice lately. I think the RR is much better with just a splash of water, rather than my usual cube of ice. It figures that just as I find the best way to drink this, and in my opinion, making it much more ejoyable, it will be gone soon (at least the 101)!!!

Tim

CrispyCritter
01-08-2006, 19:52
I'm finishing off the last of my EC12 with a double pour... next time I go shopping for bourbon I'm going to pick up another bottle - I feel it's one of the better bang-for-the-buck whiskeys out there. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Chaz7
01-09-2006, 11:51
Wow. I was at a bar in Las Vegas, and did that bartender be smart. He told me when I asked what bourbons he had, I learnt from him Crown Royal, Seagram's Seven, and Cananadian club were his "bourbons"! Seriously though, I did find a bar (Nobhill) that had a decent selection. Listed under American Whiskeys (thank you), I had an Old Potrero Rye. It was very different, but enjoyable. But when I got home last night, it was a Wellers Antique 107. That was so good after the drought in Las Vegas.

SBOmarc
01-09-2006, 12:05
You were at The MGM, and CraftSteak is just down the hall with a Bourbon selection that would have made you weep openly and boasted for a long time. Next time search a bit harder and be patient. You were so close.....

doubleblank
01-09-2006, 12:16
If you were at Nob Hill, you were close to a good bourbon and scotch selection.....inside the MGM just around the corner at the bar in Craftsteak. Rob ("RedVette") and I had a VW 15/107 from Lawrenceburg on Saturday night, Jan 7th. They had many other great ones....but you never pass up a sure thing like VW 15/107. The bar at Delmonico's has the VW 15/107 too along with Hirsch 16, Pappy 20 and 23. There's a couple of bars in Vegas serving Hirsch 16 from the blue wax bottle.

Nob Hill does make a nice drink called the Cable Car..... a martini-like drink from rum with a sugared rim.

Randy

Chaz7
01-09-2006, 14:58
Thanks for the suggestion. I walked right past the Craftsteak, and I didn't even think about it. I was at Drai's the night before, but I was told only Maker's Mark and Jack. I googled Bourbon and Las Vegas, and the whiskey menu popped up on Nobhill. Next time, Craftsteak it is! So, is there a thread here with "where to go when in Las Vegas"? There should be.

RedVette
01-09-2006, 16:30
Q. What bourbon are you drinking now?
A. Stitzel Weller 13 year old Single Barrel http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Thanks Randy, that is some mighty tasty stuff. The bottle says Weller, but the flavor is all Van Winkle. I would put it closest to Pappy 20/23. A marvelous bottle.

The Bourbons available at Craftsteak were very good but I had all of them in my collection already. A great collection in my mind has things that I don't have, like The Makers Mark Lounge or the Seelbach in Louisville. The highlights at Craftsteak were the ORVW 15/107 and the Pappy 20, and they also had the whole small batch collection as well as WT RR 10 100.

What they did not have is 13 year old Stitzel Weller single barrel, and now I do.

Wow.

T47
01-09-2006, 17:34
I am enjoying Pappy Van Winkle’s 15YR. I really enjoy this Bourbon. Can someone tell me, is the 20YR worth almost twice the price? It is one of those bottles on my wish list, just curious?

ProofPositive
01-09-2006, 22:22
After experiencing the exhilirating surprise http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif earlier in the evening of finding another bottle of the mid-1990s Limited Edition WT101-12 on dusty & forgotten shelf, I am enjoying a good double round of RR101 - first neat, second cut 3:1 with a splash of spring water. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-10-2006, 06:36
Started with a pour of Old Fitz 1849 and then had several pours of AAA 10. Both were good but the AAA 10 shone.
Ed

chasking
01-10-2006, 08:30
Last night was Woodford Reserve, batch 133. I've generally considered this a not-bad-but-nothing-to-write-home-about bourbon. This time I found it generally pleasant, but again not remarkable. When first poured, I detected a butterscotch note on the nose that I had not noticed before. It doesn't seem to have much of a finish.

Chaz7
01-10-2006, 09:18
I am enjoying Pappy Van Winkle’s 15YR. I really enjoy this Bourbon. Can someone tell me, is the 20YR worth almost twice the price? It is one of those bottles on my wish list, just curious?


Tastings are subjective, but yes, it is definately worth the price. It is incredibly smooth, rich, and I think anyone here would say it's one of the very best bourbons at any price. Speaking of subjective opinions, The Beverage Tasting Institute scored it "100". No matter what your personal feelings are towards The BTI, how far off could they be? And, putting things in perspective, I don't believe you could find a single malt scotch of that caliber (all things considered) for less than $300.00!

T47
01-10-2006, 17:37
Well it is on my wish list, and I will now have to bump it up and start putting away my change! I have a Birthday coming up...sounds like a good way to treat myself! Thanks for sharing your opinion.

TNbourbon
01-10-2006, 18:28
I opened tonight the first of three older Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirits I bought at the same store, so I assume they are from the same batch -- an early one like the 'first' or 'second' label noted in this thread:
Kentucky Spirit label versions (http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Premium&Number=40792&Searchpage=1&Main=27192&Words=%2BKentucky+%2BSpirit+%2Blabel&topic=&Search=true#Post40792)

The hand-written info is almost completely faded, and only close to readable on one of the bottles. I believe it says '95' (the first year!), and it is not the same label as the one show in the Regans' "The Bourbon Companion" from 1996, so that would jibe. It looks like the one next to 1995 on the Wild Turkey website's history wheel.
Anyway, I'm glad I opened it. It isn't as layered as, say, the 12yo, but is nonetheless full and robust both in nose and flavor. A little sweeter, perhaps, than most WT offerings, but still underpinned by the trademark leather-y spice.
I did a rare thing (for me), and poured the same bottle twice!

ProofPositive
01-10-2006, 22:38
I opened tonight the first of three older Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirits I bought at the same store, so I assume they are from the same batch -- an early one like the 'first' or 'second' label



Very interesting. I found 2 bottles of KS with the 2d variant label last weekend. Both were from the same barrel and I believe dated 01-21-01. From reading the thread, this would jibe with the right time frame. I had never seen an earlier bottle of KS until these. All I can ever recall seeing have been the variants 3 & 4....but, my recollections are not as clear as they once were.

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Edward_call_me_Ed
01-11-2006, 08:35
WT 101. Long live Jimmy Russell!
Ed

fogfrog
01-11-2006, 15:13
Wild Turkey 101 with a bit of spring water. Hey, I just got this stuff and I like it! I just sent customer care at Wild Turkey an email and told them not to lower the proof because I figure buying a fifth is like getting a quart and I can have it near barrel strength if I want or add water.

Gillman
01-11-2006, 16:12
Of course: one of my own blends, but here I have outdone myself. This is only three whiskeys: Old Charter 12 years old, Old Grandad and Jim Beam Black Label. The proportions are about 5 parts Charter and equal parts the other two. It is truly remarkable how three whiskeys, each quite distinctive, can acquire a new character when blended. The blend is (and people know I like this) very soft, like a good brandy, with softly unrolling, complex flavors. The reason it works: the "extra" rye in the Grandad and Beam fills out the "lack" thereof in the Old Charter (since Charter is notably a low-rye bourbon). But I was also lucky in the particular proportions - sometimes a few drops either way changes, not so much the taste, but the texture and mouth feel.

This is another candidiate for Gazebo upcoming. I've made a whiskey (not really intentionally) with a quality worth many times what the components cost me.

Gary

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-11-2006, 16:20
The proportions are about 5 parts Charter and equal parts the other two.



Sounds interesting, but I am not sure I understand the proportions. And what OGD did you use?
Ed

Gillman
01-11-2006, 16:36
5 parts OC and 2.5 parts each Beam and Grandad. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

My Grandad was regular, 86 proof OG in the flashy orange trade dress.

Each whiskey on its own was unsatisfying to me (a little rough and unbalanced); the combination is completely different to each and VERY satisfying.

Gary

TNbourbon
01-11-2006, 20:42
Welcome back, Gary -- I assume you are at home now because of your access to your 'stores'. Thus, in recognition of your return, I have combined equal parts National Distillers Old Grand-Dad BIB and 129-proof 2004 Stagg tonight to create what I call 'Old Grand Stagg 114-1/2'. My intent was to contrast the high-rye OGD with the presumably lower-rye Stagg, and I find it pleasing -- the Stagg has softened the rye edge of the OGD, while the latter has taken some bite out of the Stagg's proof while still maintaining a resultant high-proof pour.
The rye really comes through on the nose of this one, with both the milk-house grain bin and spicy licorice/anise present. It has a candied orange-peel, fruity entry which evolves into a leathery-ness that does not go completely dry. The tobacco and leather linger on the finish.
Cheers, Gary! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Gillman
01-11-2006, 21:55
Hi Tim, oh yes I'm back, thanks, and your blend sounds very good. Of course you used primo whiskeys to begin with but that won't guarantee a good result, rather, thinking it through (as you did) will! The OG and Charter used for my blend are both current issue and I think you would agree that National Distillers OG is rather a bit better than the current one. Not that my blend wouldn't have been good had I used my (single) ND Grandad, but I'm pleased I got such good results from using decent but otherwise unexceptional whiskeys. I saw your post on Jack, too. The way to get good Jack is to vat different examples, e.g., different bottles of 80 proof regular Jack and throwing in some Jack Single Barrel (and maybe some Gentleman). Also, I find it goes well with Cola and I wonder if maybe its current taste profile is "designed" with that in mind. But again you can come up with a drinkable version of Jack neat by vatting, "layering" as it were slightly different examples of the whiskey. Not that each bottle isn't the result of hundreds of barrels (so it is already a vatting in a sense) but somehow individual tinkering seems to produce a better result. But some Single Barrel is needed for this to happen because it adds oomph and depth. My current Jack blend (about 10 Jacks in total with 40% approximately from two Single Barrels) is another Gazebo candidate.

Gary

ProofPositive
01-11-2006, 22:09
Started w/BT & branch, finished with RR101 and splash of spring water. The BT is from the stock of one of those local stores who selected a barrel and had it bottled. So, I guess you could call it BT Single Barrel. I have seen quite a number of these around here lately. I keep meaning to pick up a 'regular' issue of BT so I can compare with this one. Just the same though, this BT is really good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

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Edward_call_me_Ed
01-12-2006, 07:37
I had a couple of pours of Black Maple Hill 21 year old at the bar tonight. I think it was 97 proof. Wonderful stuff.
Ed

kbuzbee
01-12-2006, 15:58
Welcome home, Gary! Did any of those OGDs you found follow you home??

Ken

Gillman
01-12-2006, 16:21
Hi Ken, thank you. Yes, I have one almost full bottle of a ND Old Grandad. My plan is to bring this to the next Gazebo. It is very good, rich, fruity, chewy, balanced, bearing only a slight resemblance to the current OG (which can disclose an unpleasant "raw" note). I went back to Philipsburg on the Dutch side to find the row of them I chose my bottle from, and when I got there (from Grand Case on the French side) of course I couldn't find the store. I found 20 others, but not the right one. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif The row I had chosen my bottle from had a number of bottles with labels faded almost to yellow and they had reduced the price from, say $10 to about $4. I had chosen the label that looked the least faded.

Now I can pinch myself.

Gary

NYtaster
01-12-2006, 17:56
Stagg Fall 2005, WOW!!!!!!!

I can't find this near home so I ordered via the internet, K&L Wines, (sorry 'bout the plug, but great service!!!)

I started with a straight pour, just to see what it was like in its natural state, one sip was all it took.

After adding a little spring water to cut it down to somewhere near 100 proof, and waiting a few minutes for my taste buds to recover, I think I like it.

The initial burn gives way to a pleasing, though not intense , woody bourbon, not a lot of spice, with a very long and satisfying finish. If I wait long enough I am rewarded with a final note of black cherry, you really have to wait for this one!!

I see this as a great winter pour, and winter is a LONG season up here in NY.

I won't change my WT allegiance but I do like it!

CrispyCritter
01-12-2006, 18:56
Yup, that '05 Stagg is potent stuff!

Tonight, I'm visiting my lower-priced bottles - first some AAA 10yo, now some Old Fitz BIB, next up, Rittenhouse BIB rye.

For all the (often justified) hype surrounding the premium brands, these three bring a whole lot of enjoyment for a pittance. As long as I can find them available, these will always be on my shelf. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

wku88
01-12-2006, 20:25
VOB 90 , and I'll prolly do some EWSB before I go to bed....

ProofPositive
01-12-2006, 21:59
VW-SR12 and WT RR101....not necessarily in that order though. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

That is still to be determined. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

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gr8erdane
01-12-2006, 22:06
I too opted for the 2005 Fall Stagg but to tell you the truth, even at 141.2 proof, this bottling just doesn't burn like previous versions did. I can drink this straight up and truly enjoy every drop. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ProofPositive
01-12-2006, 23:04
VW-SR12 and WT RR101....not necessarily in that order though. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

That is still to be determined. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

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Scratch the WT RR101. The VW-SR12 is just so smoothe.....I can't change gears now. Nothing wrong with the RR - had it last 2 nights....just a change of plans for the here & now. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

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BourbonJoe
01-13-2006, 02:16
The VW-SR12 is just so smoothe.....


How does the 12 stack up against the 15 and 20 in your opinion?
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

nor02lei
01-13-2006, 03:15
The VW-SR12 is just so smoothe.....


How does the 12 stack up against the 15 and 20 in your opinion?
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif


I like both the 12 and 15 and the upper hand to the 15 I think. The 20 I don’t like at all. To old and woody for me. But my favourite VW bourbon is the 10Y 107 proof Frankfurt bottling. An amazing bourbon and about the chewiest I ever tried.

Leif

pepcycle
01-13-2006, 11:00
I second that motion.
BMH 21 SB Rye.
Getting to the last drop.
Great Whiskey.

camduncan
01-13-2006, 14:45
Last night I tried very hard to drink some of the Australia only "Jim Beam Small Batch with Port added" I poured it neat, tried letting it sit for 30 minutes, put it over ice, added water - all to no avail. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/puke.gif
Some people like this stuff, but I can't stand it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
In the end I mixed it with coke and ice in a tall glass. It wasn't a bad mixer for a hot summers night (30 deg Celcius, 70% humidity) on the back varandah http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

fogfrog
01-13-2006, 16:54
I'm drinking Jim Beam 7 Year Old. I had been drinking Wild Turkey and Evan Williams Single Barrel over the last few days but today i actually started with some cheap scotch.

I drank the speyburn and then decided to switch to bourbon. I thought the Scotch was good and way simpler and more drinkable than bourbon. So I tried the Jim Beam 7YO as opposed to the Wild Turkey 101 which I had been drinking earlier in the week.

The Jim Beam reminded me of Vanilla big time! It was as if I was drinking an egg nog without the egg. Needless to say I am on my third Jim Beam 7YO.

This stuff is awesome! Not complex at all. Simple and good!

Paul http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

TNbourbon
01-13-2006, 21:07
I've had a rough couple of nights, bourbon-wise. Nothing has really tasted good. Last night, I even returned half-a-pour of Lawrenceburg Pappy 20 to the bottle, as I was unable to appreciate it properly. I finally poured about 25ml of Glenfiddich 18yo Scotch, and that was OK -- which is really quite good, because 'OK' is what I expect from Glenfiddich and older Scotch (I did not buy an entire bottle, by the way, but a 3-pack of 12yo, 15yo and 18yo minis).
Well, tonight hasn't been much better. I started with some 2004 Stagg, which seemed too hot to me, so I made one of my 'Gill-Manhattan's with the last couple of ounces of it. Then I tried some 1968 Beam BIB 8yo (mine, Cliff, not yours!), only to suspect (correctly, as it turned out) that I'd decanted it into glassware contaminated with dishsoap. I poured it all away, a disappointing happenstance. Disheartened, I finished the Glenfiddich 15yo, too.
Not for a moment, though, did I believe I had lost my taste for bourbon. I started pulling corks and nosing: Buffalo Trace -- nah, too 'usual'; 1994 Old Forester BIB -- ah, sweet! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I like sweet http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif! OK, try it.
This bottle is an 'occasional' for me -- I pour it now and again when I don't really have anything in mind and it strikes my fancy. Tonight, it is THE one to drink. It's warm, fruity in front and dry at the finish, and lets me finally simply relax my thought processes. No analysis, just enjoy!
As many of you know, pedantry is my business, with semantics Business 1-A. So, you guessed there's a lesson here, right? Some of you also know I do wine, too -- and so do many of you. There is a moment in every bottled wine's life when it is at its perfection -- open too soon, and you experience an immature wine, open too late and it's faded. And, realistically, there is really nothing you can do but hope. It's nice to open a $7 wine and get a $50 experience, but the reverse can be devastating. What to do?
My general philosophy is this, shared often with our wine/liquor store customers: you can't know the time when the wine is perfect, but you DO know when the time is perfect for that wine. Open it and enjoy!
I've found this week it works for bourbon, too -- whiskey isn't science, it's art! Chasing perfection is a chimera (second definition, Timothy http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif!), because WE are seldom at our best.
And, tonight, this Old Forester BIB is the best thing on my shelf.

CrispyCritter
01-13-2006, 21:58
I started off with ERSB (90 proof), and then a pour of WTRR 101. There's a http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif for each of them!

barturtle
01-13-2006, 22:00
Chasing perfection is a chimera (second definition, Timothy http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif !),



Just for fun and since I was pointed out, I thought I'd look it up(my personal definition was "a wild idea or fantasy") I came up with-

2. imaginary monster: an imaginary monster whose body is a grotesque combination of mismatched animal parts

After thinking for a moment "Yeah, I can kinda see that", then I realized that I was looking at the capitailized version of the definition, so then I got-

2. genetics organism with genetically different tissues: an organism, or part of one, with at least two genetically different tissues resulting from mutation, the grafting of plants, or the insertion of foreign cells into an embryo

I thought the first one made more sense, but as I looked above this one I came up with-

1. something totally unrealistic or impractical: a wildly unrealistic idea or hope or a completely impractical plan

Now, that's more like it!

Thanks Tim, without you pointing out the fact that there were different definitions to this I would have forgotten about this one-

1. fire-breathing monster: in Greek mythology, a female fire-breathing monster, typically represented as a combination of a lion's head, goat's body, and serpent's tail(My question is: how can something that looks like that be described as female?...But then again, I have met a few that when angry look like they could breath fire http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif)

I really must brush up on my Greek mythology http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-14-2006, 04:11
I am drinking some OGD 100 proof. I have been wondering what OGD 100 proof was like but I have never seen it in the store, so I made my own. One shot of OGD 86 proof and one shot OGD 114 proof. I left it to sit in a half pint bottle overnight and am drinking it now. It is pretty nice. I haven't made up my mind whether to do this again or not. I will need to taste it against the original ingredients first. Not tonight. I am going to open a new bottle of ETL after I finish this.
Ed

chasking
01-14-2006, 08:17
I've had a rough couple of nights, bourbon-wise. Nothing has really tasted good.



I've had that experience too. Some nights the tasting apparatus just seems to be "off". It is very disheartening, when you're geared up to savor some whiskey but you can tell that you're not getting the real full flavor experience.

Sometimes in that situation taking a slug of something not very good can "prime the pump". I suspect that the off-tasting phenomenon can be due to residual effects of certain other foods or beverages, and they can be scoured away with whiskey---but it is pointless to use the good stuff for that. I have noticed that sometimes after a drink or two the tasting apparatus comes back on-line.

That might not help if the problem stems from an impaired sense of smell due to a cold or allergy or something.

Fortunately, last night was not an "off" night. I pulled out a bourbon I haven't gone to in a while: Weller 12yo, a special Binny's bottling. It was very good---I wish I'd made some tasting notes at the time, but one thing I do remember was the long finish, particularly compared to the Woodford Reserve I had a few days previously. Maybe I'll have to track down a bottle of WLW after all!

bobbyc
01-14-2006, 15:28
Trying a little GT Stagg Haz Mat 2. Might as well say Cheers Mr Ed while I'm at it.
This seems a little more refined than the first Haz. I would like to do an A-B with the other one. All in time I suppose.

I like this one, I think it better than the 03 haz and under everything else, still a really good drink. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

CrispyCritter
01-14-2006, 20:21
I started out with Sazerac Jr., and then had a pour of Sazerac 18 to follow up. As before, I'd give the edge to the 18 - it seems (and I know this is a nebulous term) deeper to me. The 6(7) version is still outstanding though, and it has more bang for the buck. I'm glad I have both. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Now, for the nightcap, I'm sipping some ETL Single Barrel. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

ProofPositive
01-14-2006, 21:24
Going to go with the WTRR-101 tonight. The nightcap will either be VWSR or I may break open the newly-acquired KS....too many choices...a good problem to have. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

DrinkyBanjo
01-15-2006, 09:43
Last night I had some Ancient Ancient Age 10 YO. I think that this is the best bourbon for the money, I think it out performs EC 12. I then followed up with a Weller 12 YO. This is another price performer in my book. I'm off to my brothers today and I'm hoping that he will share some of the ETL that I got him for Christmas.

I've had a pretty bad cold this weekend which is why I've been staying away from the higher end booze. If I feel good tonight I think I'll have some WT RB, I love that stuff!

ProofPositive
01-15-2006, 12:00
Last night I had some Ancient Ancient Age 10 YO. I think that this is the best bourbon for the money, I think it out performs EC 12.



Here is one brand I've not partaken of in many a year. I can't remember if I ever tried AAA. I saw one the other day that looked like it had been on the shelf for a while. If I remember correctly, I think it was around $12-14. I have grown accustomed to seeing a label on the front & back of bottles. This one only has a front label and no bar code anywhere(?). How old would that bottle be - anybody know?

I'm sure it's on the BT website, but what is the difference between AAA 10yo and AAA 10-Star or are they the same? How many different AAA bourbons were/are produced?

barturtle
01-15-2006, 12:06
I'm sure it's on the BT website, but what is the difference between AAA 10yo and AAA 10-Star or are they the same? How many different AAA bourbons were/are produced?



Actually the info is available in the bourbon database on this site.

ProofPositive
01-15-2006, 12:34
I'm sure it's on the BT website, but what is the difference between AAA 10yo and AAA 10-Star or are they the same? How many different AAA bourbons were/are produced?



Actually the info is available in the bourbon database on this site.



Thanks, will check it out.

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BourbonBalls
01-15-2006, 14:39
OK....Im having the VanWinkle 12 year old, Lot "B"....

VERY good stuff....I'll tell you what I'm having with it altho I am not in the habit of enjoying bourbon with food:

I was at a dinner with Julian and many others at the Bourbons Bistro in Louisville last year. Julian was drinking a bottle of his with no label and said that is good with cheese...but not just cheese, but GOUDA cheese.

I'm having my pour right now with an extra aged Gouda. Fantastic. Julian was right on. Certainly a master when it comes to what pleases the palette. The VanWinkle products are the best in the Bourbon World.

Thanks Julian.

Hope to see you in Louisville soon...I'll be back there again in March.

Virus_Of_Life
01-15-2006, 17:35
Having just washed my newly acquired Reidel Bourbon glass, I decided it should not just sit there empty, no that would be wrong to deny this new glass in it's new home of any libation! So I too am having some VWSR 12yo lot B, first time for me and I am quite impressed, can't have too much though because I need to get to the gym still (this belly is getting out of control!) but later on I will refill this lovely glass possibly with some WLW as I have been dying to try that since bringing it home! Or possibly the new Stagg? Oh it is nice to have these kind of decisions to make in life!

ProofPositive
01-15-2006, 20:54
So I too am having some VWSR 12yo lot B, first time for me and I am quite impressed



http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif I am right with you! The VWSR is very, very good....I cannot imagine it getting any better! But, I have not yet opened the 15yo Pappy and will not be getting the ORVW 15yo until Tuesday. From everything I read here, it is even better! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I will have to pop one of those and see for myself. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif Congratulations on the Pappy 23! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif Tough to spend that kind of dough I will agree....but, we'll not look back and regret. As I see it, if we had let the opportunity pass, then we definitely would have had hindsight regret. I would rather have a little less money now than be kicking myself in the butt http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smiley_acbt.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smil41df29a15fb35.gif for the next 2 yrs (or more) before Julian bottles another round of 23 again. As someone else put it here on the Forum, "it's only money". http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif Wayne

NYtaster
01-16-2006, 17:08
Tonight I opened my new WLW Single Barrel. In comparison to the GTS I opened last week this was a little more my speed. It isn't anywhere near as overpowering as the Stagg, much more enjoyable.

Now a question, does any one know anything about this particular bottle? It is in the same bottle as the GTS 2005, has a hand printed lable that says its 121 proof. I can't find anything on the distillers website about this particular issue.

Tim

TNbourbon
01-16-2006, 17:29
Well, you might try here:
William Larue Weller (http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/51989/an/0/page/0#51989)
or here:
William Larue Weller 12yo Barrel-Proof (http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/51580/page//fpart/1/vc/1)

ChuckMick
01-16-2006, 17:48
does any one know anything about this particular bottle?



NYtaster

This may be what you are looking for.

ChuckMick
01-16-2006, 17:57
Sorry about the posting of the WLW stuff. I am drinking a sample of the ETL Binny bottling.

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ChuckMick

doubleblank
01-16-2006, 19:01
Tonight its Weller 12yo SB.....Barrel Reject '01'....BR01 as Tim coined it. Sweet SW entry.......with a drier, citrus laced finish (Doug's description actually....but dead on). Drier, lightly oaked finish puts it somewhere between a VWSR12yo and the Pappy 15. This one is actually 160 months old.

Randy

Joeluka
01-16-2006, 19:40
Tonight I'm enjoying Hirsch 16 , Old Rip 10-107, and AAA 10 year old. I find myself working this trio more and more.

CHEERS

Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

barturtle
01-16-2006, 19:46
This evening, in what must be the quickest from-the-store-to-the-glass I've ever done, I'm drinking some Saz Jr. Actually doing a little side-by-side with the Saz 18.

IMHO, I think this one is going to be a much better whiskey, though I'm not sure it's really going to handle that much age on it(might need a different spot in the warehouse to let it age that long). This has got to be the best young rye I've ever had. Now we just need a 10yo SB version. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Looks like I'll have to go pick up the last couple of bottles I left on the shelf! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

CrispyCritter
01-16-2006, 20:31
Good stuff, both Sazeracs. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

I started out with ERSB 90 proof, then took a right turn and headed for Ireland (Powers Gold Label), then a U-turn to Canada (Forty Creek Barrel Select), and then south to Kentucky (Bernheim Straight Wheat).

Good thing I don't have to drive anywhere. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

ProofPositive
01-16-2006, 21:55
Starting out the evening with my first pour of WTKS. Much to my pleasure, it is everything they say...and more. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif Recently, I read a review that claimed KS is as good & on same par as WT12. Having now had both, I tend to almost agree....they are very, very close to one another.

Finishing the night at the same place as the last few evenings - VWSR....sweet dreams! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/22.gif

NYtaster
01-17-2006, 19:41
Tim,

Thanks, I had actually read the second thread, Great notes BTW! I must be getting forgetful in my old age. LOL!

ChuckMick,

Thanks also, all the info I could have hoped for!!!

Tim http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

kbuzbee
01-18-2006, 02:55
Well I decided to venture on to the lower shelf for a couple days. First was Ezra Brooks 7yo 101. This was not good. I was lamenting the $12 I'd paid for it. Never really found anything to grab onto. I was surprised as I remembered it getting some positive feedback around here somewhere. Then again, my memory isn't what it once was.... Regrets about the EB101 were quickly displaced when I tried a 100 proof Colonel Lee. I won't go into my disappointment with this one here (it got it's own thread http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) but it really helped me appreciate the Ezra..... Last night I returned to my main pour, Kentucky Spirit. Oh wonderful spirit! Sweet, full, sensorial delight.......... Enough wild trips for a bit, I'm afraid.

Ken

barturtle
01-18-2006, 06:52
Last night it was a Saz Jr. Sazerac. Very nice, mixes better than the Saz 18. I believe it calls for a Sazerac shoot-out between it and the WT rye. Will report back when I get another WT. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

ProofPositive
01-18-2006, 07:39
Oh wonderful spirit! Sweet, full, sensorial delight.......... Enough wild trips for a bit, I'm afraid.

Ken



Like you, I took a detour one night about a month ago and it took me 2 days to get the tastebuds back in decent working order. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/puke.gif

Hillbilly
01-18-2006, 14:06
Finished off a bottle of Woodford Reserve last night. It's not the most expresive bourbon out there, but I always enjoy a visit with it from time to time. Very smooth and clean with an appetizing vanilla finish.

I'll pick up another bottle in a month or so.

NYtaster
01-18-2006, 16:54
After the GTS 2005 scared me off last week I let it sit for a while. I'm giving it another visit tonight and it seems much more friendly. Maybe a case of first night jitters http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Really, I think that after knowing a little more of what to expect this particular bourbon is much more drinkable. Tonight I am noting a little tobacco up front with the wood and some spice mid palate and the black cherry way at the end.

Just the ramblings of a novice!!

Tim http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/27.gif

NYtaster
01-18-2006, 16:56
OOOPS! I didn't even notice, I'm no longer a NOVICE!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Tim

Virus_Of_Life
01-19-2006, 02:04
First a little sip of William Larue Weller but then, Peter Jake's Private Keep! This is STILL one of my favorites. I have been doing searches on this in the database and am going to try to writing it all out into a pdf file to read tomorrow at work, you know while I am on 'breaks.' I don't know exactly what it is about it, but this is the second bottle I've pulled the plug on in the last 6 months and am just as impressed with this one as I was with the 1st if not more so. I truly am thinking about trying to acquire an entire case of this, Binny's lists it very reasonably priced compared to what I can get it for out here... Does Binny's ship? I'll find out soon...

chasking
01-19-2006, 07:28
I also think Peter Jake's is pretty good, and I'm surprised nobody ever talks about it on here.

bluesbassdad
01-19-2006, 10:41
You betcha, or at least they did while I still lived in California. It turns out that Arizona is another story.

IIRC, there was a break-even point that involved sales tax, shipping cost and the price/weight ratio of the bourbon. Assuming a competitive price at Binny's of about $25 per bottle or above, it may be as economical to ship a case from Chicago as to buy locally. A case of bottom-shelf bourbon will cost more shipped in.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Virus_Of_Life
01-19-2006, 16:49
I also think Peter Jake's is pretty good, and I'm surprised nobody ever talks about it on here.



I am glad to see someone else echoing my sentiments on PJ's Private Keep, I still have many a bourbon (and Rye) to try but as of now it's a standout in it's respective price category, and above IMHO.

Virus_Of_Life
01-19-2006, 17:12
IIRC, there was a break-even point that involved sales tax, shipping cost and the price/weight ratio of the bourbon.



Yeah I was doing the calculations on that exact aspect of it. Unless Bevmo or HiTimeWine was to throw the bourbon of interest on sale, Binny's even with shipping was still more than $2 a bottle cheaper assuming a case was purchased, more so if you consider the sales tax.

BTW what does IIRC stand for? excuse my ignorance but I've seen it a few times and can't figure out it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif I know I'll say DUH! when I find out!

DrinkyBanjo
01-19-2006, 18:18
If I remember correctly?

That is my guess at least. BTW, I just placed an order with Binnys. Besides good prices they have a lot of stuff I cannot get around here. One item of iterest, or two in my case, was Eagle Rare 101. They still have .375s in stock so I got 2.

CrispyCritter
01-19-2006, 19:02
Currently, I'm savoring a pour of WTRR 101, after an earlier glass of Aberlour 10yo...

bluesbassdad
01-19-2006, 21:48
If I remember correctly?



Yes.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-19-2006, 22:35
Here (http://www.acronymfinder.com/) is where I go when I can't figure out an acronym.
Ed
PS. IIRC returned 18 meanings. The most common was If I Recall/Remember Correctly

Virus_Of_Life
01-19-2006, 23:05
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/thankyousign.gif Thank you Ed and Tim, like I said, DUH!

As for what's in my glass, it's Gin, LOL hahaha NO it's not gin, I hate it just a joke on another thread where I was expressing my ignorance. I started with a pour of WTRR 101, which the jury is still out on, but then I opened yet another bottle that I had been dying to since I bought it. Black Maple Hill 11yo 95proof, and after the first pour I definitely am not disappointed, this is a delectable surprise! Very soon I am going to have a lot of open bottles, but it is safe to say that Peter Jake’s and this BMH will not stay open long before they are empty! I am no expert, but I really like both of these, I think at the moment even more than VWSR 12yo and maybe (I need to get a new bottle) Pappy 15yo. I mean that, I just finished the glass and am sure if I do not have another of the BMH I’ll dream about it all night, this was a very reasonably priced pour on special at $35.99 plus tax and I just told my friend I know I like this better than WTKS and quite possibly better than IIRC Hirsch that I paid, oh, well heck let’s not talk money, this is good stuff!

Sorry to do so much comparing of bourbons but I am really branching out lately with a lot of things that either I’ve had and am revisiting at this point or never had but wanted to so am opening now as is the case with BMH.

I love good food, bourbon and everything that it brings to life!!

Virus_Of_Life
01-20-2006, 00:12
Wow! Now this was some transition, BMH 11yo to VWSR 12yo... to........ Wild Turkey Rye, this was my first taste of WT rye101 and obviously so very different than the other two I was sipping tonite, this is very good http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif . I now see what you are all talking about http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif with this WT rye, I like it every bit as much, quite likely more, than WT 101. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif

Now if you'll excuse me I need to get to bed, I'm having trouble seeing and typing straight... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/22.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/stickpoke.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/22.gif

NorCalBoozer
01-20-2006, 09:50
plus you get the bonus of having it delievered to your house or work http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

sometimes bevmo can come close when you get that 5% reward.

I've ordered from all 3 and all 3 provided top notch service.

FYI, if you are planning on buying the Eagle Rare 10 year from bevmo, they have the old 101 pictured on the site, but they will ship you the Single Barrel, they don't have the 101 in stock and the picture needs to be updated.

RedVette
01-20-2006, 19:02
plus you get the bonus of having it delievered to your house or work [IMG]
FYI, if you are planning on buying the Eagle Rare 10 year from bevmo, they have the old 101 pictured on the site, but they will ship you the Single Barrel, they don't have the 101 in stock and the picture needs to be updated.

That seems to be common among the mailorder houses, I was on the phone with the guys from Hi Time Wines, pointing out that their WTRR is incorrect. He was apologetic, but couldn't do anything to correct it. He wasn't a web guy.

Black85L98
01-20-2006, 19:20
Evan Williams green.

Geo
01-20-2006, 21:34
A few pours of Old Weller Antique and now moving on the Spring Stagg '05

ProofPositive
01-20-2006, 23:28
Having a first and second pour of ETL, current BOTM. So far, so very good. BT has produced another winner here....one that Mr. Lee should be proud to bear his name just as much as WTRR bears that of Mr. Russell. Good Stuff!!!

madal
01-21-2006, 08:14
Ezra B, I just love this stuff

mrt
01-21-2006, 11:02
Jim Beam Black...I really like this.

camduncan
01-21-2006, 16:09
Last night, for a friends birthday bbq, we started with 2 or 3 good shots of Pappy Van Winkle 15yo. Shot 1 was straight, shot 2 was with water added and shot 3 was over ice. The overwhelming response amoungs a couple of bourbon drinkers who'd never tasted it before was that it reminded them of Bookers without the 'fire water' feeling. (Their terms, not mine)

We then moved onto a very LARGE number of Jim Beam White and Cola pre-mix stubbies.

Needless to say, I'm taking asprins quite heavilly this morning :(

BourbonJoe
01-21-2006, 16:31
Tonight I had a pour of Evan Williams "1783". This stuff never ceases to amaze me (quality vs. price). I just hope Heaven Hill doesn't screw with it the way they did with the Black Label.
Joe

DrinkyBanjo
01-21-2006, 16:59
Right now, watching Hockey, sipping Wild Turkey 101, smoking a bowl of Dunhill Nightcap, and listening to Led Zepplin Physical Graffiti. It's gonna be a great night if the Rangers lose, the rest can't fail.

Randy_Ricchi
01-21-2006, 19:49
Shamefully, I was having a brandy and diet 7-up whilst reading this thread. When I got to the end of the thread I wanted to reply but first I needed to get something respectable in the glass - An Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr, 107 proof, neat, as I always drink a good bourbon.

This is a very nice pour, but I think I prefer (just a little bit) the Old Weller Antique 7 yr, 107 proof.
The Old Weller is a little smoother, at least to my palate, so I taste more of the wonderful sweetness typical of a wheated bourbon.

This is a great forum, but I hate the thought that my status relies on the number of my posts. I'm not much of a poster; more of a lurker. I'll be a novice for awhile, but I'm at least an intermediate as far as tasting experience goes. Cheers!

gr8erdane
01-21-2006, 21:32
This is a great forum, but I hate the thought that my status relies on the number of my posts. I'm not much of a poster; more of a lurker. I'll be a novice for awhile, but I'm at least an intermediate as far as tasting experience goes. Cheers!

Randy, welcome to the forum. Don't worry about the tag under your name as being your status. We all started the same way. Some of the people I hold in high regard here rarely post but find other ways to participate, such as in our weekly chats or those wonderful get-togethers called Kentucky Bourbon Fest. Of course there are some, myself included, that love to see our name in print....

barturtle
01-21-2006, 21:44
I lurked here for a while before I bothered to even join and by that time I was so ready to post that the weekend wait for my registration to get approved was agony. The posts tricked in for a little while, then, after meeting many of these wonderfull people at the KBF is was like a landslide of posts. It was a long time even then before I started joining in for that chat sessions(which I'm still sporadic at). Each person gets what they want out of the site:some are quite happy lurking, some chat, some post.

Now, back to the subject at hand; This evening I started with OGD 114, went to a vatting I'm working on, and am now drinking HH 10yo.

Ghoste
01-21-2006, 21:55
Wild Turkey Rare Breed. It seemed fitting as tonight was my wedding anniversary and any gal that'd stay with me is a rare breed. Here's to my little bride!

doubleblank
01-21-2006, 22:14
Pappy 20 tonight. Don't drink it often, but was in the mood for a desert.

T47
01-21-2006, 22:26
Started the evening off finishing up my Bulleit, and have moved on to Pappy 15. I really enjoy both of those. I purchased my first infomercial items…the Time Life Music from the 70’s collection…brings back some good memories while I sit and sip.

TNbourbon
01-21-2006, 22:59
Finished off a bottle of Spring 2005 Stagg tonight -- about the last 3 ounces -- while finishing one book and beginning another, after working till 9 p.m. at the liquor store.
Of course, I knew 3 ounces of Stagg was a bit much, so I diluted it to about 90 proof -- don't be afraid to do that, folks. It's still Stagg, it lasted through several chapters (good to the last drop!), and leaves me quite ready for a good night's sleep.

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-22-2006, 07:23
ETL again. I just can't get over how good this is.
My two cents.
Ed

bucky1
01-22-2006, 07:43
Had dinner out last night with other sb.com'ers (Rancastle & Kim and of course Luv2hunt). Before dinner pour of Weller Antique...onto a nice dinner then back to Rancastle's for desert (prepared by Kim) and bourbon. Desert was chocolate bread pudding made with a bit of Lot B with a bourbon sauce (also made with Lot B). Wow...was it good.

A few pours to accompany the desert and conversation that followed...compared ETL foil to ETL wax, a pour of Rare Breed and a pour of Lot B to cap off the night. It was a great night.

mrt
01-22-2006, 13:35
Bulleit..mmm, this time I enjoy it realy better...By the way, I think I like with some water added as well as I like on the rocks..

alanb
01-22-2006, 16:16
I have some Blanton's over a single ice cube in my glass as I type... very tasty, and very relaxing... my three Weimaraners are sleeping next to the fireplace... a real Currier & Ives kind of evening.

AJ

ProofPositive
01-22-2006, 23:19
It is a cold, rainy, windy, three-dog night here in southwest Tennessee. I figured it to be a perfect night for WT. So, I have started with RR101 w/ice cube and dash of spring water. Plan to finish with another pour of same, or, take the 'high' road with some KS. Then again, this weather and cold wind may prompt me to keep it simple & finish the night with that "old wild turkey bourbon".....good ole 101. Nothing wrong with that.....no sir, nothing at all.

ProofPositive
01-23-2006, 21:38
It's been a most excellent day out on the Turkey Range. So, my celebratory mood has resulted in the 1st pour being the tried & true WT101 + dash of spring water; 2nd pour: RR101 + same; and last, but certainly not least, for the 3rd pour: KS + 2 ice cubes.

jeff
01-24-2006, 17:54
Tonight I stumbled upon a bottle of 10yo Old Bardstown at the Shopper's Village on Euclid Ave. I have not seen this bottling before in Lexington, and I didn't get to try it at the Festival. If this isn't Heaven Hill whiskey, I don't know what is. It's nice, with soft grassy tones and a bit of spice on the back-end. It was $19.95, but you can save some money and buy a standard HH bottling and get the same results.

doubleblank
01-24-2006, 18:17
I get the same....this is HH whiskey Jeff.....but I like the added richness that comes with it. Prefer it to the EWSB's. At a slightly better price for a 10yr old HH....and at 101 proof. I think the extra proof adds the richness I get. To me, this has all that is good about HH whiskey.....and did I say I like the 101 proof. Its in the glass now.

Randy

jeff
01-24-2006, 18:32
Actually I think you're right Randy. I'm having another pour of this after dinner and I must say I am enjoying it more than before. It's kinda like a more-refined Very Rare 10yo Heaven Hill BIB. I'll give this bottle a few more tries before I pass judgement on it.

Gillman
01-25-2006, 06:36
I have had a lower proof Old Bardstown, on the scenic train ride which departs from Bardstown, and found it somewhat congeneric and awkward. It was not (I am quite sure) 10 years old nor high proof. I believe an older, stronger version would be better. In general I find Heaven Hill bourbons (Old Bardstown was originally a Willett's brand but the OB's we are discussing are I believe made by HH) need a lot of age or high proof to be really good. E.g., the high proof of Fighting Cock offsets well the typical menthol taste of younger HH. The age of Elijah Craig 18 years old softens out the feisty eucalyptus notes of younger HH whiskey (sometimes still evident in the 12 year old EC and EWSBs). So a 10 year old at a good strength may have the right balance for me and it sounds like this Old Bardstown 10 year old does. That said, I have never come to terms really with Heaven Hill's bonded 10 year old. True, it is sold for a very low price, but in my view it does not show the house characteristics to their best. Frankly the best HH whiskey I had was that 21 year old rye, soon to be bottled under the Rittenhouse name I believe, and bourbon straight from the barrelhouse, both tasted during that last SB tour, wow. And of the regular issue bourbons, I think EC 18 years old is the best. Behind that, some years of EWSB and some bottlings of EW 7 years old.

Gary

Edward_call_me_Ed
01-25-2006, 07:45
Great night at the bar.

Started with Pappy 20 year old.

Next a pour of Black Maple Hill 18 year old.

Then two pours of Elijah Craig 18 year old.

Nightcap of Elmer T Lee at home as I type this.

Like I said, a great night!

Ed

doubleblank
01-25-2006, 07:53
Gary......Your phrase "show the house characteristics to their best" is exactly what I get from this Old Bardstown 10/101. The "mentholyptus" notes are there, but there is also balancing sweetness, some spice and alcohol. No odd or angular flavors coming at you. As Jeff said, you'll know this is HH whiskey at first taste, so its not for everyone. This one makes you wish for EWSB's at 100+ proof.

Randy

Gillman
01-25-2006, 07:56
Thanks Randy and you have summed up my ideal HH whiskey, a good year of EWSB at a minimum 100 proof. In effect we tasted something like that straight from the barrel at the HH tour last year and was it good.

Gary

scratchline
01-25-2006, 16:47
My brother and his wife dropped by so, in spite of a lingering cold, it necessarily became cocktail night. Since they can't bear any sweetness, they ended up with whiskey SOURS made with Michter's #1 rye. I went with the dependable Manhattan, with the Michter's rye and Carpano Antica Formula. This vermouth is terrific. I even prefer it to the Punt e Mes which is no sneezer.

Now I've moved on to a Sazerac made with le Fee absinthe and Buffalo Trace. I've not been a huge Sazerac fan and maybe I've been softened up by the aforementioned Manhattan, but this one is really good.

Now I'm gonna whip up T47's Black Russian Cake, put on the restored version of Sam Fuller's Big Red One, and see what the rest of the night will bring.

-Mike

CrispyCritter
01-25-2006, 17:05
I'm starting out with WT Rare Breed W-T-01-99. I like it a lot, but it isn't the same as the RR101; it is more on the dry side, where the RR is sweeter.

SBOmarc
01-25-2006, 17:39
Started off with a Eagle Rare SB, and plan on a small pour of Elijah Craig 12. I enjoy it much more than the EC 18. I have a Stagg Fall 05 that I have not yet tried, This may be the night.

1holegrouper
01-25-2006, 18:40
Started off with a pour of Blanton's. It was OK. Seems to have a complex taste while remaining "mellow". Finished the evening with a pour of Knob Creek. KC seems to always be consistently good no matter what I have eaten for dinner!

TNbourbon
01-25-2006, 20:24
I'm enjoying a Wild Turkey 8yo mini from 1971. It is very similar to today's standard 101 bottling in taste, but with a much oilier, weighty, viscous mouth-feel.
Looks like I'll follow it up with a complementary taste of a first-label WT Kentucky Spirit I have open.

ProofPositive
01-25-2006, 21:52
Started with Buffalo Trace from a single barrel bottling for a local retailer.....very, very good! The finish for the evening has yet to be determined but I am leaning toward ETL. Just the same though, I would be most satisfied to bring an end to the evening at the same place it began - on the Trace.

Virus_Of_Life
01-26-2006, 00:42
After my second third straight 15+ hour day trying to get a project out for Department of Energy at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center I just finished Black Maple Hill 11yo, should go to bed but won't because I have a hard time relaxing after days like this. I'd like to open the new Stagg but know I'll be less than coherent in 7 hours when I need to be back in the office looking at more drawings, so I'll probably open the Old Weller Antique 107 and finish with some WT Rye.

Mmmm Yep, that Weller is good, kind of reminds me of the WLW Barrel proof, but a bit smoother. I like it, almost makes me forget about the worthless project managers I have to deal with! If only I could take this in to the office…………

JeffRenner
01-26-2006, 17:06
If only I could take this in to the office…………
Well, you could, but I don't recommend it.

You might enjoy this post with the topic "I drink bourbon at work"
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1726


I pour my first bourbon and soda around 7:00 AM. I work in a small office and I am in straight commission sales. I find that it takes the edge off of the pressure of the job, and lets my personality come out in its fullest (I am almost 100% onthe phone).

Anyway, I go through a lot of Bourbon at work (though not by many of your standards I am sure). I finish off a 1.75 liter bottle every 3-5 days.

I was wondering what you folks would suggest as the best of the cheap bourbons. I need to go cheap because I: a)Mix it with soda, b)Don't really have the ability to appreciate it here at work, and c)Need it to take the place of dinking straight soda to actually quench thirst.
That guy must have a helluva liver!

Jeff

Virus_Of_Life
01-26-2006, 22:59
Started tonite with the new GTS and good golly miss molly was I impressed, I am new to this as of last spring's release but I love it so freaking much it's hard to explain! Anything that is this high proof and this drinkable is amazing! I need at least a case of this stuff!

Went to WLW barrel proof next and boy does it lack in comparison to GTS, I love this by itself, but never again will I have it with GTS. There is no finish in comparison. I was going to buy a few more bottles of this, but now think I’ll just get one more.

After those two I decided to pour some Old Overholt that I had never tried, am I drinking water?...... Ok not fair to OO, but very smooth I guess and easy to drink, just comparing it to things it shouldn't be. I love the taste of Rye, potentially more than bourbon, maybe not, but I really like the rye and this for all it seems to lack right now is still a damn tasty drink!

ProofPositive
01-26-2006, 23:03
To celebrate my finding & purchasing of 2 bottles of ORVW 15yo today, I am finishing off a bottle of VWSR - so very good....excellent! And they say this is the bottom rung in the 'ladder' of the VW bourbon family. I cannot wait to climb the ladder.....15yo, here I come!!!!!

pepcycle
01-27-2006, 08:36
In response to Virus of Life on Stagg vs Weller

The Beauty of BT. Two great products, both barrel proof, yet so different in style and character. Exactly why you need them both. Not that one is better or worse, but different. Doncha think?

BobA
01-27-2006, 08:43
Christian,
I think you're right, it is unfair to taste Old Overholt after two barrel proofs. But at least you were still able to see its virtues. It would be great if they'd put it out in a higher or older bottling. Now that I think of it, of the 4 or 5 lower-priced whiskys that I just automatically replace when empty, OO is the only 80 proof one. Last night's drink was another; OGD 114.
Bob

ProofPositive
01-27-2006, 23:42
Tonight I'm opening my first bottle of Weller Antique 107. Getting better with every pour.....nothing more to say.

tmas
01-28-2006, 04:30
I'll play, Sam Houston is in the glass tonight. We don't talk about this one much on this forum, but it is an awfully nice drink. I think this one is a close cousin in flavor to ETL/Buffalo Trace, but I know that it is not a BT bottled product. It is a little dryer, but close.


I agree on the Sam Houston. Had a bottle about a year ago and really enjoyed it but I've been unable to find it since. Do you happen to know who distills it and if it is still available? Tom V

BourbonJoe
01-28-2006, 07:01
Sam Houston is bottled by the Zoeller Brothers (same people who bottle Jefferson Reserve). We don't know who distills it, as the Zoeller Brothers won't say.
Joe :)

tmas
01-28-2006, 08:57
Sam Houston is bottled by the Zoeller Brothers (same people who bottle Jefferson Reserve). We don't know who distills it, as the Zoeller Brothers won't say.
Joe :)


Thanks Joe, Now I like it even more as it has a bit of mystery about it! Tom V

RedVette
01-28-2006, 14:13
Blantons, a newer bottle (11-14-05) and this is a very nice drink.

camduncan
01-28-2006, 16:51
An impromptu hit of golf at the local driving range resulted in a dinner invitation with friends (I'm a batchelor for the weekend - Jen is at the Australian Country Music awards supporting a girlfriend who'se been nominated for best new act ;))

They offered me a couple of cans of Woodstock bourbon Blue label with cola to try - I was definately impressed. I think I'm going to have to pick up a bottle of this to sample neat :D

MGillespie
01-28-2006, 19:13
Bulleit..mmm, this time I enjoy it realy better...By the way, I think I like with some water added as well as I like on the rocks..

BTW, if anyone's interested, I did an interview with Tom Bulleit a few days ago that's up on www.whiskycast.com in Episode 15. A great guy...

Mark

www.whiskycast.com

ProofPositive
01-28-2006, 23:33
Tonight: #1 BT, #2 WTRR101, #3 WTKS.....and now off to the bed chamber.

mrt
01-29-2006, 13:41
Early Times, tonight. I tried it neat first, and then added a few pieces of ice...Either way, taste is very very good, in my opinion.

By the way, I learn a lot from this site...Thanks to everyone, once more.

mrt
01-29-2006, 13:50
...oh, by the way, it calls itself "bourbon whisky" and not "whiskey".This point caught my attention. Are there any other exceptions you know?

MGillespie
01-29-2006, 13:53
...oh, by the way, it calls itself "bourbon whisky" and not "whiskey".This point caught my attention. Are there any other exceptions you know?

Yes...Maker's Mark also uses "whisky" on its labelling...

Mark

brian12069
01-29-2006, 14:00
Tonight I am having some Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey, very tasty.

MGillespie
01-29-2006, 14:03
I'd agree with you on that! Got to interview Parker Beam about Bernheim at WhiskyFest in New York back in November. A great man who makes great whiskey!

Mark

www.whiskycast.com

barturtle
01-29-2006, 17:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt
...oh, by the way, it calls itself "bourbon whisky" and not "whiskey".This point caught my attention. Are there any other exceptions you know?


Yes...Maker's Mark also uses "whisky" on its labelling...


Add in Old Forester to the list. Also Dickel uses whisky while Jack uses whiskey

T47
01-29-2006, 17:45
I'm starting with WT 101, my son just headed out for a drive across the State to get back to College, and there is a little blizzard going on between us and there...I think its going to be a long night :(

bluesbassdad
01-29-2006, 22:14
Earlier this evening I really enjoyed my glass of Elmer T. Lee, the outgoing Bourbon of the Month. The pumpkin pie spice and hint of cinnamon are still there. I find it hard to believe that I once likened this bourbon to Lavoris mouthwash.

I've been disappointed the last three times I've poured from my bottle of EC12. It's been open well over a year, probably closer to two. Maybe that's a factor. The hint of eucalyptus in the nose is gone. The palate is generic bourbon. The finish is painfully dry; it reminds me of wood ash. I don't think I'll finish this bottle, and it will be a while before I replace it. I may not even finish the glass I have in front of me. Why persist in something I am not enjoying, when I have dozens of more appealling choices on the shelf?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ProofPositive
01-29-2006, 23:37
Weller Antique and nothing more......going a little easy after chasing the Wild Turkeys last night.

kbuzbee
01-30-2006, 06:30
The last two evenings, I've gone back to an old friend, Maker's Mark. For some reason this whisky has kind of fallen off my regular pours list. It is a bit on the mellow side. I usually prefer the roaring ryes. But these two evenings, something more subdued was called for and Maker's came through with flying colors. I poured it into my SZ nosing glass to really capture the aeromatics. Nice, sweet, very floral in the nose, hints of butter and honey on fresh baked bread. The palate continued those impressions with smooth silky sweetness. This was the right Bourbon for these two evenings.

Ken

DrinkyBanjo
01-30-2006, 06:34
Makers is the best my local has to offer. I usually drink beer while I'm there but if I'm smoking a cigar, which I won't be after 4/15 of this year, I'll go for a Makers. I usually enjoy it but being that I have it often enough I rarely go for it at home.

BourbonJoe
01-30-2006, 08:34
What happens on 4/15 Tim?
Joe

NorCalBoozer
01-30-2006, 15:00
yesterday had side by side ER 10 y.o. 101 proof and ER 10 y.o. 90 proof single barrel (bevmo bottling). This is the first time i had ever tried the 101 but I have had the SB before.

Very impressed with the ER 101.......very unimpressed with the single barrel.

the 101 seemed to have much bolder flavors and balance, very very enjoyable pour...the SB seemed more fruity/sweet and favors more muted.

goodbye 101, i barely knew ye.

BourbonJoe
01-30-2006, 15:29
Tonight I had a pour of Old Overholt Rye. First time I tried this. This is one super rye whiskey, especially for 14 bucks a bottle. I guess I'm gonna have to stock the bunker because this will be a regular pour from now on.
Joe :usflag:

ProofPositive
01-30-2006, 22:40
Went back to familiar territory of late......WTRR101. Every time I pour, it seems to just be a bit better than the previous.

CrispyCritter
01-31-2006, 18:17
I'm finishing up a Turkey Trio - first WTRR 101, then Rare Breed, and now a pour of WT Rye. :toast:

One thing I've noticed is that they all share a certain "house style" - even the rye. All of them have a spiciness inside (nutmeg/clove?); the RR101 tends toward the sweet, the RB towards the dry, and the rye heads deeper into the spice rack.

All of them are superb pours.

ProofPositive
01-31-2006, 21:48
Experimenting a little tonight with ETL, the outgoing BOTM. I decided to cut into the sweet side of ETL just a bit with some BT from a local retailer's 'handpicked' single barrel. As a 1:1 mix with 3 small ice cubes, the BT overrides the ETL a bit more than to my liking. Next one, I'll cut back on the BT and see what results. Don't get me wrong, I like ETL just fine but at times would like to see it have a little more 'bite'. This was just one of those times.

1holegrouper
02-01-2006, 06:56
What I like to do instead of mixing the actual drink is start out the evening with a smooth bourbon like ETL or EWSB and then make my last drink a stronger bourbon like Knob Creek or WTRB

Virus_Of_Life
02-01-2006, 22:41
Started the night with Black Maple Hill 11yo, yep it is becoming a favorite you are right. And gosh darn the glass is now empty.... Stay tuned for what I finish the evening off with, it's a difficult decision!

ProofPositive
02-01-2006, 23:07
Finally got around to opening my first bottle of EWSB '95 tonight. This is definitely a bottle I should have already opened. After reading so many positives on here, why in the world did I wait so long? It is GREAT!!!!

Virus_Of_Life
02-01-2006, 23:08
OK, well, since I was away from it for a while in Oregon, I figured I'd hit the BOTM again and have a little more ETL. And I have to say that "favorite pour right about $20" category is getting so full that I just said heck with it, just like I tell anyway who asks me what my favorite bourbon is, I just can't choose. This pour of ETL tastes better than the previous, maybe that 'open bottle effect' maybe just my mood...

ProofPositive
02-01-2006, 23:37
This pour of ETL tastes better than the previous, maybe that 'open bottle effect' maybe just my mood...

I have been practicing the 'open bottle effect' here lately and am finding there is definitely something to it. At first, I had my doubts....but, it does seem to work & help.

1holegrouper
02-02-2006, 08:28
Last night I finished off a bottle of EWSB '96 then I proceeded to a new bottle of ETL. What I found interesting is that my MEMORY of ETL was that is was very similar in smoothness and general flavor to EWSB. However in a back-to-back comparison I was able to observe the enhanced complexity in flavor of the ETL. This is why, in my opinion that ETL is lauded by so many. It's 'scary' smooth yet retains flavor complexities often reserved for the 'hotter'/stronger bourbons.

EBIGGEST
02-04-2006, 10:09
:cool: [B]

I RECENTLY GOT ANDERSON CLUB AND PRIVATE CELLAR, VERY GOOD FOR THE

COST. THEY ARE NOT LISTED ANY WHERE, BUT BOTH COME FROM

BARDSTOWN, KY

MGillespie
02-04-2006, 12:11
Found a bottle of WTRR 101 at one of the local liquor stores this week...and now I understand why you guys complained when they changed it to a 90 proof. It's great, and I'll have to track down a couple of more bottles while I can...

Mark

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Virus_Of_Life
02-06-2006, 18:05
Wasn't going to have anything as I need a nap but figured I'd try out the 'dumping jigger' that came in the EWSB gift pack I picked up over the weekend. So I opted for a small pour of VWSR, nice I do enjoy this but I am just not entirely sure I enjoy it at it's price... One thing though I found is that my typical pour is more than 2 ounces! No wonder I feel the way I do the mornings after drinking GTS and WLW!

Are those little emoticon thangs gone now with this new software?

TNbourbon
02-06-2006, 18:54
...Are those little emoticon thangs gone now with this new software?
:slappin: :rolleyes: :slappin: :shocked: :bigeyes: :grin: Nope!
Go to your user CP, edit options, and at the bottom you'll find Misc. Options: choose 'full WYSIWYG' for Message Editor Interface.

Forbes
02-06-2006, 19:03
You know sometimes I'll come home after a hard day, skip all the top shelf stuff, and just reach for a shot (or two) of Old Forester 86. Nothing fancy but a good bourbon.

Todd

CrispyCritter
02-06-2006, 20:39
There are some amazingly good things on the lower shelves (even if they're not available everywhere) - AAA 10, Old Fitz BIB, Weller 12/90 and 7/107 - exceptional values, all under $20, some very much so. As much as I like Stagg, Van Winkle, etc. (not to mention the much higher prices for Scotch!), I shouldn't forget that good whiskey doesn't have to cost a small fortune.

As for tonight, I went with three completely different pours - first, one of good old reliable BT, then some Bernheim Straight Wheat (expensive, but a nice treat nonetheless), and now some Aberlour 10yo (to me, one of the best values in SMSW) for a nightcap.

T47
02-06-2006, 20:55
I have found myself reaching for the WT Rare Breed more often. I really enjoy this Bourbon. It seems darker, to me smooth yet rich, and then the spices just seem to explode. There have been a couple bottles I enjoyed, but will try another rather than replace them, this Rare Breed for me is a keeper, I will replace this bottle when its gone.

ProofPositive
02-06-2006, 22:39
I've been under the weather a few days and figured to be feeling good enough this evening to shake off the doldrums. So, in order to make sure no more germs overtake me, thought it best to reach for the top shelf and pull down some of the better liquid gold in the keep......WT Kentucky Spirit. I don't know what it is.....maybe just a great barrel. This bottle (and a second one I found on the same shelf) came from an early barrel of KS that was bottled on 1/21/00. I have to say that although I have yet to crack open my Pappy 15 or 23, this KS is the best bourbon I have yet to try in my short time back in bourbondom. I have a feeling the aforementioned 2 Pappys plus ORVW 15 and WT Tribute will probably top KS as I get to those bottles in the future. However, at present KS is the King of the Top Shelf in my small collection and tonight I am enjoying it quite well.

Virus_Of_Life
02-06-2006, 23:05
I would like to try WT Tribute sometime but alas like many others it does not seem easy to come by! :stickpoke:

THANKS TIM!! I knew it had to be there some where!

SBOmarc
02-07-2006, 17:23
Have never gazed upon it in SoCal. BevMo was my last hope and that did not happen.

doubleblank
02-07-2006, 17:49
I'm going with Hancock's Reserve tonight. I've had this bottle open for some time.....so this is a revisit. Its fairly one dimensional. Sort of like a low octane ET Lee. Certainly easy to drink, but one would expect more flavor for the money charged for this one.

Randy

wku88
02-07-2006, 19:34
Well, I finally got to try the Four Roses SB tonite (thank God for friends in KY!), and I was kinda dissapointed. Tasted more like a premium Canadian or a weak Scotch. Not to say it was bad, but I expected a more robust taste. Got a pour of Old HH 100 proof BIB right now, and it is delish! Not quite on the same level as the Very Old HH 10YO, but enjoyable just the same.

ProofPositive
02-07-2006, 22:39
Customizing a bit this evening from among my various WT bottles - 101, RR & KS + ice.

Virus_Of_Life
02-09-2006, 01:58
Actually started the night with Old Overholt, kind of weak smooth pour but still pretty good flavor and from there went to the BOTM George T Stagg, good goly miss molly do I love this one, have since the first taste last Spring and sincerely think the latest release is better! Then just a touch of EWSB and then a tiny bit of WT Rye one of my favorites to finish the night with.

camduncan
02-09-2006, 13:44
:slappin: :rolleyes: :slappin: :shocked: :bigeyes: :grin: Nope!
Go to your user CP, edit options, and at the bottom you'll find Misc. Options: choose 'full WYSIWYG' for Message Editor Interface.

I know it's off topic, but thanks Tim - I'd been wondering where they went :bigeyes:

Back on topic - it's only 7:50 am, but I'm thinking after I get home from work, mow the lawns and finally sit down to relax.... a nice cold Jim Beam & coke with lots of ice will do for starters. Then I'm thinking some Noah's Mill neat followed by some 2004 Stagg to finnish off an evening watching my Eagles DVD on the projector in the downstairs rumpus room :cool:

DrinkyBanjo
02-09-2006, 18:31
Okay, first I tried Eagle Rare 10 YO Single Barrel and now my first taste of Eagle Rare 101. During these first impressions I prefer the ER 10 YO SB a little bit over the 101. Seems a bit more mature and sophisticated. Both would be appreciated at any time though.

Yesterday I was at a Cigar Bar and had a Knob Creek followed by a Blantons. I enjoyed the Knob Creek much more than the standard Blantons.

NYtaster
02-09-2006, 19:17
I just finished a bottle of OGD 114, this wasn't a bad choice. This particular bottle offers a pretty good bourbon with a lot of bang for the buck!!

Tim

ProofPositive
02-09-2006, 22:23
Tonite I started off with ETL and finished with a pour of BT. It was kind of like going from sitting on the couch with a tabby cat to a bench in a tiger's cage. I don't know about anyone else but this BT I have is a little on the wild side w/some low heat. Maybe it is just the single barrel it came from by virtue of a local retailer - as opposed to the standard Trace bottling.

You know, maybe I should have done it the opposite way.....BT first, the more tame & mellow ETL second. Maybe something to experiment with a little further down the road.

Virus_Of_Life
02-10-2006, 00:00
Wasn't going to have any tonite, but then decided I'd skip the gym, something I have done way about every day in the last year because of work, health and other issues, but anyway after a little deiliberation as I now have too many open bottles (14?15?) I poured some Black Maple Hill. I rarely see that talked about on here, but man I tell you some nights my taster is off and this is just good but then nights like tonite it is freaking GREAAAAAAAT! It makes me wonder; this is only the 11yo, how much better can the 14 and 16 year olds be? :skep: I need to do some research on these BMH bottlings because it seems that at the least the distribution is sketchy at worst it is all out hard to get or running out? :searching:

chouffe62
02-10-2006, 14:53
Weller 19, Sazerac (2002), & Old Forester B'Day Bourbon (Spring 2003)

mrt
02-12-2006, 10:21
Early Times Kentucky Straight Bourbon (the one available outside the US only). Maybe I'll take a glass more :)

fogfrog
02-12-2006, 12:36
Wild Turkey 101, my taste buds have changed. It seems that I no longer need to add anything to whiskey anymore. I don't know what happened.

I went to Denver last week and was at this cowboy restaurant called the traildust. We had a happy hour before dinner so I asked what sort of Bourbons they had. They said, " Jack Daniels, Gentleman Jack, Jack Daniels Single Barrel and Crown". I thought, "they don't have any bourbon!".

Sort of funny what we learn here. I shoulda had some of that Jack but I have yet to try Jack Daniels.

I will say this Wild Turkey is good stuff. Its getting to be all good as far as I can see. At the Casinos in Tunica MS just south of Memphis, I was sitting with this lady from work at the Slots and when the drinks came around ordered scotch. They brought me Cluny. I didn't know how cheap it was but to tell you the truth, it was darn good too! Later here in KC I saw Cluny for 15 bucks a half gallon!

tsangster
02-12-2006, 15:45
Small pour of Johnny Drum 15 yo while watching the NASCAR shootout.

Now having EW BIB. Will definitely be getting more of this on my next trip to SC. Very tasty and quite inexpensive.

ratcheer
02-12-2006, 15:57
Tonight I am having a shot of Knob Creek with cold, filtered water. About 2/3 whiskey, 1/3 water. It is actually quite delicious.

Tim

Mad Mac
02-12-2006, 16:19
Booker's. I drink them all, from wheaters to straight rye, but Booker's is the one I bring out when I want to remind myself of how good it can get.

RedVette
02-12-2006, 17:01
Welcome Mr. Mac,

We seem to have a lot of Bourbon Newbies on the board lately. Welcome all.

Tonight started with Corner Creek, an enjoyable drink, followed by Pappy 15 an even more enjoyable drink, and now I have Saz 18 in the glass. A very nice day.

Ghoste
02-12-2006, 17:09
A little pour of Wild Turkey 101 tonight. It was my youngest's 6th birthday today so it was a busy day and it seems to be a milestone for some reason. We don't have any "little" kids anymore. Why 6 marks big kids to my wife and I, I cannot say.
Nonetheless, the WT seems to be a nice relaxing end to the day.

bluesbassdad
02-12-2006, 20:09
Moments ago my wife and I returned from dinner at what may be Prescott area's finest restaurant. (Haven't tried them all yet; could finish the job in a month or two if I wanted.)

I had not planned to order a cocktail, but my wife likes to eat the cherry out of a whiskey sour, and she suggested I order one. I agreed with very little reluctance.

I drank whiskey sours for years before I joined this group, and I never gave much thought to what kind of whiskey was used, only how much. In my previous ignorant state I thought it pretentious to order a cocktail and specifiy the brand of liquor.

However, tonight, without even thinking about it, I ordered "a whiskey sour, straight up with Wild Turkey 101". Guess what? That drink was more enjoyable than any whiskey sour I can remember. The assertive WT taste profile was there. The sour component was there, balanced with just a hint of sweetness. I easily drank it all before even the slightest warming occured. It was a whiskey sour for the ages.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bobbyc
02-13-2006, 08:19
It's been awhile since I've had a Whiskey Sour but at one time, for a very long time, Whiskey Sours were my poison. Maybe a revisit is in order.

ProofPositive
02-14-2006, 23:18
Started the night with a gracious pour of ETL and finished it off with a slightly shorter pour of EWSB '95 - both on the rocks. I think this is the first time I have had these 2 together in the same evening. My assessment: If I had to leave the house quickly tonite, could only grab one of these and leave the other, I would take the ETL hands down. IMHO, ETL is smoother, has more depth, and leaves less of the alcohol after-taste on the palate which hits the spot for me. At first, I thought ETL was a little too sweet to be an everyday pour. However, each time I now open this bottle, it justs seems to get better. Only about 1/3 of my first ETL left now.....will soon have to get another to keep on hand.

brian12069
02-15-2006, 17:12
I'll take some heat for this one, but, right now it's Gentleman Jack...love this stuff...

CrispyCritter
02-15-2006, 18:42
I'm currently in a "draw down open bottles" mode - not opening anything that's more than half full. Tonight, I just finished a glass of WTRR 101, and I'm now moving on to '04 Stagg. Life is good.

Ghoste
02-16-2006, 01:49
Brian, I finished off a shot that was left in a bottle Gentleman Jack myself last night. It may not qualify as bourbon but I like the JD products myself quite often. It has it's own special charm outside of being the "slug from the bottle" choice of rockstars. (why do they all do that?)

brian12069
02-16-2006, 04:07
Brian, I finished off a shot that was left in a bottle Gentleman Jack myself last night. It may not qualify as bourbon but I like the JD products myself quite often. It has it's own special charm outside of being the "slug from the bottle" choice of rockstars. (why do they all do that?)

Why do they all do that? Because they like it!!!

brian12069
02-16-2006, 04:09
Having said that, there is quite a difference in flavor between Gentleman Jack and Regular JD.

fogfrog
02-16-2006, 17:42
Actually, I was drinking Evan Williams Single Barrel 1995 and it was so good! So I also had some 7YO Evan Williams, you know the very reasonably priced stuff? And I am amazed at how much I like this stuff too now!

My taste buds are changing. A lot of things I thought were rough are no longer seeming rough to me any more.

brian12069
02-16-2006, 18:06
EW is good stuff, doesn't get enough credit.

TNbourbon
02-16-2006, 18:34
I've created a nice "Gillmanization" tonight -- a vatting of Old Fitz BIB 6yo, bottled in 1968, about 3:1 with the Bernheim wheat. Very rich and sweet, but with enough heat and nuttiness not to be cloying.

Gillman
02-17-2006, 06:41
That sounds interesting because you are in effect maintaining a bourbon profile but increasing its wheat content and it should result precisely in the palate you described! A good way too to let down the high ABV of the OF '68 without adding water. Well done.

Here is one I did recently, partly by accident: to a base of 20 ounces of Wild Turkey 80 I added 3 ounces of Old Charter 8 year old bourbon (I wanted to soften the rye edge in the WT), a very small addition of Buffalo Trace (maybe one ounce) for additional depth and age, and then 2 ounces Canadian whisky (Centennial). The Canadian affects mostly the finish and the mouth feel by lending softness and in general "displaying" the bourbons. Another candidate for the Gazebo table at Sampler.

Gary

Virus_Of_Life
02-18-2006, 20:31
EW is good stuff, doesn't get enough credit.

I have swore by it since I was 17 years old, (13 years ago) and my brother of all people said he wouldn't buy JD for me until I tried EW at about half the price. Needless to say rarely did (do) I ever buy JD again, or JB white for that matter. Rite Aid here in SoCal sells the 1.75L of EW for $13 from time to time, I find that the greatest bang for the buck in the history of bourbon whiskey! :grin: I love it, and swear by it and always have at least one large jug on hand for my beef marinade not to mention drinking!

And on that note I think I like the regular stuff better than the SB bottle I have......

Frodo
02-18-2006, 22:09
My taste buds are changing. A lot of things I thought were rough are no longer seeming rough to me any more.

I hear you brother!!

Last sunday, I decided to try a tasting flight of Beam small batch bourbons because lately I found Bookers to be wonderful stuff. It was not so long ago that I couldn't drink it (too strong), or any other Beam product except Knob Creek or Beam Black. This time I tried...

Basil Hayden 8yr: A nice bourbon, but found it too spicy for a beginner, and too mild for a veteran. Nice in its own way, but I don't like the price tag ($40 cdn). Someone on this forum said in effect, "nothing wrong with this bourbon at a lower price tag". I would agree with that!

Knob Creek 9yr: Much drier than I remember it. A "punchy bourbon I found it to be. Wasn't turned on - too one dimentional to my palate.

Baker's: Big suprise! I used to find this one dimentional. I like the nose (sweet) and the palate does change significantly with water. Might actually think about getting a bottle!

Bookers: Wonderful bourbon!!! Used to consider it too powerful. I think it's worth every penny ($80 cdn) although I can rarely afford it. Might actually beat out Blanton's as my favourite so far!!!

Overall though, I'd still prefer anything from Buffalo Trace, or certain Heavan Hill products (EC 12 or EWSB when I last had them 4 yrs ago - perhaps my tastes have changed for these as well) as opposed to general Beam products.

Hopefully I can try GTS some time in the next couple of years (I'm very patient).

bluesbassdad
02-18-2006, 22:39
Tonight I'm finishing a bottle of Baker's I've had for at least three years. I think I got it on sale at Binny's for around $27.

At that price I'd buy more. I like it, but not enough to justify paying full price.

It makes me think of a richer version of JB Black. Very little in the way of exotic flavor elements, as far as I can detect. Perhaps a few floral notes on the palate and finish.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield