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MattB
01-20-2006, 05:55
Hi folks,

I picked up a bottle of EC 18 (for $21!) yesterday, and the label notes that it was bottled in September of 81. My question: does EC not sell a lot of this product? I just don't understand the lag time. 18 years is a long time to sit on product. I would imagine that they'd want to put it out immediately. And yet, this bottle has been sitting somewhere for another six or seven years. Why?

BTW--Though I'm no expert, EC 12 is one of my favorites, and a great value. And I liked my first taste of this very much. A little more scotch-like in accent, but still with that dark, semi-sweet, smooth and flavorful character I associate with EC 12.

barturtle
01-20-2006, 06:11
the label notes that it was bottled in September of 81



Are you sure that doesn't say distilled in '81? EC 18 didn't exist as a brand until about '96 or later(no mention in a couple books from before that time-IIRC from my bartending days it seems like it was 97). However, a bottle distilled then and bottled in '99 would still have sat on a shelf for a long time, where did you find it?



18 years is a long time to sit on product.



Yes, 18 years is a long time to sit on product, and they are doing us a great favor by doing so. It is an even longer time to try to forcast sales-can you imagine the sales forcast meetings "I believe that the next generation of drinkers is going to be drinking...."

ProofPositive
01-20-2006, 06:11
I picked up a bottle of EC 18 (for $21!) yesterday, and the label notes that it was bottled in September of 81.

BTW--Though I'm no expert, EC 12 is one of my favorites, and a great value.




Are you sure it does not say "barreled" in 9-81 instead of "bottled"? I also have one and mine say barreled in 9-81. You might want to take a look again....I thought the same thing when I found mine and had to read it twice.

I agree with you on the EC12....it is one of my favorites as well - a real good value for money IMHO.

boone
01-20-2006, 07:22
We started bottling the EWSB in 1995...The Elijah Craig Single barrel followed two years later.

Bettye Jo

Rughi
01-20-2006, 07:43
We started bottling the EWSB in 1995...The Elijah Craig Single barrel followed two years later.
Bettye Jo


Shed a tear for all those single barrels that never got the chance to grow up to be EC 18.

Maybe we should have a catch and release program so that we can ensure all those EWSBs can get rebarreled until they reach full Elijah Craig maturity. I'll even volunteer to organize this bourbonthropic venture.

Everybody - send your EWSBs to me for rebarreling, and I'll send back the mature stock (all that hasn't 'evaporated') in several years. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Roger - angel's share - Hodges

PS - there's likely to be a very high 'evaporation' rate.

barturtle
01-20-2006, 07:49
Everybody - send your EWSBs to me for rebarreling, and I'll send back the mature stock (all that hasn't 'evaporated') in several years.



I'm not sure that you might not use an extra "filtering process" that might just involve digestion. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

nor02lei
01-20-2006, 08:09
Bettye,

The EC 18 is really one of my favourite bourbons. A real blow-out and not a single day to old. I am sorry I discovered it so late. I am still on my first bottle (barrelled 9-8-81 no 1243). I consider this to be my favourite brand of the ones that I tried from your distillery in a class of its own. One thing puzzles me due. Why are you not bottling any older rye than Rittenhouse 10Y? Its a god value for the buck and a good rye in its on way. But the taste is almost like a clenched first on your shin and I am sure that this would be a super brand to with a lot more years in the barrel.
And congratulations for your new title on the forum!

Leif

MattB
01-20-2006, 08:16
Right--barreled in 81. But that means that this bourbon was ready to go in 99. Which means that it has been sitting in this bottle for six plus years. I know that bourbon usually isn't thought to benefit as much as single malt over the course of aging--I've read on this site that some folks think even 18 years is overkill (I'm not one of them)--but the thought still crossed my mind that this "could have been" a new product--EC 23, or something.

It just made me curious, is all. And made me wonder if--assuming that EC barrels and bottles some 18 yr each year--stocks are piling up somewhere, although I'm also cognizant of the fact that all these various bourbons that distillers put out are fluid in their identity/bottling destination. I'd think that an 18 yr bourbon--especially one as tasty as EC--would be sold as soon as it went into a bottle and headed to the packy.

Boone--you're associated with EC? Congrats on some great products. Given that boutique vodka distillers make a lackluster product in a matter of days, and then sell it for thirty five bucks, I'm astounded that I can get such great bourbons that, quite literally, take a thousand times as long to produce, for half the price. Kudos and thanks to all of our great American corn juice makers.

Matt

boone
01-20-2006, 08:17
Lief http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We are in the process of producing a "New" Rye Bottling...

Rittenhouse Rare Reserve, Single Barrel, 21 years old. The projected release date is scheduled in September http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bettye Jo

P.S. I will send your post to Max http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

boone
01-20-2006, 08:37
Boone--you're associated with EC?



Yes, I am a Line Mechanic http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (apprentice. industrial maintenance) soon to be Journey(wo)man http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Elijah Craig Singel Barrel, is my favorite bottling at Heaven Hill http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Every holiday and special occasion is started with a pour of EC 18 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bettye Jo

nor02lei
01-20-2006, 12:17
Bettye,

Very, very interesting with the 21 Y single barrel rye. Personally I am positively sure the heavy high rye Rittenhouse 10 could stand 11 more years in the barrel at least on a low floor. I really lock forward to this brand and hope it will be possible to get here in Europe. All roe I knew that the personal taste is as the ass, divided, it is still nice to here that you have the same favourite brand from the distillery as myself. And by the way when it comes to the horse kick tasting Rittenhouse 10 I must say that it is a very god spice in cocking as well.

Leif

camduncan
01-20-2006, 12:55
We are in the process of producing a "New" Rye Bottling...

Rittenhouse Rare Reserve, Single Barrel, 21 years old. The projected release date is scheduled in September



Bettye Jo, that is fantastic news http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In my opinion, two of the best bourbons available in Australia come from Heaven Hill (Elijah Craig 12yo and Evan Williams SB,) as does one of the best value for money drops - Nelson County. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

Personally I think our market is crying out for a 2nd Rye bottling. Jim Beam Rye is all we can get Downunder.

I've tried unsuccessfully on several occasions to get the HH retailer in Australia to start importing Rittenhouse Rye (and Elijah Craig 18yo.) Both make it to the New Zealand market via Heaven Hill New Zealand, but never sees the light of day here http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

It's a bit expensive to buy a $500 return ticket to New Zealand just to pick up my favourite bourbon and rye http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

voigtman
01-21-2006, 14:52
I was wondering about the 6 years as well. A few weeks ago, I picked up more bottles of Elijah Craig 18 at the sale price of $20.99 each. I know some don't care for it, but I absolutely love it and have nothing but praise for the Heaven Hill folks (thanks, Boone!) for selling such fine bourbon and keeping the price right. Thanks! Anyway, these are the back label data on my different EC 18 bottles:

barrel # 917 barreled on 2-18-83
barrel # 952 barreled on 6-15-82
barrel # 1058 barreled on 12/17/81
barrel # 1432 barreled on 6-3-8

The ones purchased a few weeks ago are barrel # 1432. Wonder where they were hanging out for the past 6 years?

Gillman
01-21-2006, 15:02
I think, with due respect to a number of posters, there is a misapprehension here. These bottles are not (all of them, certainly) bottled at 18 years of age on the nose and sitting on a shelf for 5 or 6 years. They were almost certainly bottled much more recently than that. The original question in the thread asked if his EC 18 year old is 25 years old and the truth is, it may be, not in the sense of 18 years in the barrel plus 7 years on the shelf, but 25 years in the barrel. Some bottles out there currently may be 21-25 years old. This was first drawn to my attention by John Lipman at a visit a number of us made to HH last year. Like Ed I am a big fan of the product and I find it great value to get 18-25 year old whiskey at the price asked.

Gary

barturtle
01-21-2006, 15:39
Thanks for reminding me that this is one of the bottlings that isn't alway bottled at exactly it's age statement, I remember reading that in a post somewhere, but it had slipped my mind(my brain's kinda leaky)

Nebraska
07-24-2006, 11:18
I thought I made a stellar deal until I read back on this thread...I still did OK.

I went back to that quirky liquor store today (the one where they sold me 2 pappy 20's and 2 other bottles for $120). I had noticed on the earlier visit they had an EC 18yo, but I didn't look at the price. Went back today they had $33.99, I asked what they would take, he said $20, I said wrap it up. Wouldn't it be great if all liquor stores worked this way!

The bottle states barreled 5-10-78, barrel# 134. I'm assuming this would indicate a bottle toward the beginning of production of EC 18. Maybe first year?