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CrispyCritter
03-17-2006, 19:50
This is the first Tennesee whiskey I've had in a very long time - the last time I had a Tennesee (JD Black), I was quite underage, and I'm over 40 now. :slappin:

Well, GD #12 will be a bottle worth replacing - even though it has a rather spirity nose, it goes down really well. :yum: At $16 a bottle, it's a mighty good value, too - $4 less than JD, and it's 90 proof instead of 80!

AJ123
03-17-2006, 19:55
Yes, I like GD better than Jack Daniels and am not quite sure why JD has caught on so much more. If you cut GD with water, it's really quite mellow and enjoyable and the equal of many bourbons. it has a little bit of bite aftertaste like an unmellowed rye whiskey, but really it's not bad at all. I'd be very interested in the GD #12 Reserve which I've never seen in a store around here. GD #12 is an amazing value for the $. I keep an open bottle of GD#12 around all the time.





This is the first Tennesee whiskey I've had in a very long time - the last time I had a Tennesee (JD Black), I was quite underage, and I'm over 40 now. :slappin:

Well, GD #12 will be a bottle worth replacing - even though it has a rather spirity nose, it goes down really well. :yum: At $16 a bottle, it's a mighty good value, too - $4 less than JD, and it's 90 proof instead of 80!

ratcheer
03-18-2006, 07:12
Yes, GD No 12 was my main American whiskey before I got back into bourbon about five years ago. I had even switched a friend from bourbon to it! And he won't switch back. In my opinion, it is hands down better than JD Black.

However, I am very concerned that with all the ups and downs of the distillery and the Canadian distribution (is that still going on?), it will become only a shadow of its former self before too long.

Tim

TNbourbon
03-18-2006, 21:30
...I am very concerned that with all the ups and downs of the distillery and the Canadian distribution (is that still going on?), it will become only a shadow of its former self before too long.

Tim

Tim, a valid concern. George Dickel Distillery was on hiatus from 1999-Fall 2003 because of adequate in-hand stock to furnish then-current sales. The #12 white-label product is generally older than the #8 black-label -- a 'guesstimate' would be 6 years old. Thus, there will not be any 'new' (since 2003) distillate aged properly for #12 till 2009, meaning today's bottlings are at least 7 years old (1999 or before).
Buy today!

BourbonJoe
03-19-2006, 02:59
I am another fan of Dickel #12. Years ago, it was my go-to whiskey. I haven't had it in quite a few years, owing to the fact that I prefer Kentucky Sour Mash. It remains, however, one fine whiskey.

barturtle
03-19-2006, 10:17
Thus, there will not be any 'new' (since 2003) distillate aged properly for #12 till 2009, meaning today's bottlings are at least 7 years old (1999 or before)

I'm hoping that there is plenty of stock that in 2009 I can still buy 1999 distilled product.:woohoo: The return of SBR! at #12 prices!:slappin:

leebo
03-19-2006, 14:56
I too think GD is a great pour at a good price. I' m not really a fan of JD.In my area GD is about $ 16. GD has a great taste and is a good change from my regular pours of rye and bourbon.

jeff
03-20-2006, 17:05
Interested in what I think? Click here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1557)

:lol:

gr8erdane
03-20-2006, 22:12
You gotta respect the opinions of a guy with a flamboyantly dancing Spiderperson on every post....:rolleyes:

Joeluka
03-21-2006, 04:11
You gotta respect the opinions of a guy with a flamboyantly dancing Spiderperson on every post....:rolleyes:
Is he doing the Napolean Dynomite Dance Jeff???

gr8erdane
03-21-2006, 20:50
More like the dance of the sugar plumbed fairies...

jeff
03-22-2006, 03:36
Sorry Joe, I'm not sure exactly what he's doing :lol:

Rughi
03-22-2006, 07:19
Is the Avatar of our Bourbonian OTY Emeritus from Lexington a Napoleon in disguise? Check it out for yourself, whether you're convinced or not it's Flippin' Sweet (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/napoleon)

Roger

PS Maybe this bit of research should go in its own thread, but I couldn't figure out where "Jeff's Avatar - can it dance?" would go. :grin:

CrispyCritter
03-22-2006, 19:10
I just looked at that other thread, and noticed that Jeff's bad bottle was labeled "Bottled in Canada." I wonder if mine is an older or newer bottling? It says nothing about Canada anywhere on the label. Reading between the lines, I get the impression that it was bottled in Stamford, CT.

In any case, my bottle of GD#12 doesn't have any "vitamin" notes - there's some alcohol bite in the nose, but on the palate it's smooth and sweet.

elkdoggydog
04-07-2006, 17:57
I've had a few drinks now from my first bottle of Dickel no 12. I like it better than any of the JD products I've tried, and the price is great. Very nice clean, smooth whiskey. Not one to ponder per se, but a great everyday pour. Another good whiskey I tried thanks to this board.

The Duke
04-14-2006, 21:34
Agreed, Dickel is far and away better than pretty much anything JD bottles and is a significantly better value for the money. I've nearly converted my scotch drinking neighbor that a "tickel of the Dickel" is a better drink.

asnigro
05-02-2006, 19:44
I too favor the Dickel. I started drinking it last year when I traveled to DC with a couple of guys for work and havent looked back since. The bad thing is that I have seen it in only one bar (while vacationing in Austin, TX). If Dickel isnt around while out, I would rather resort to the White Label Beam before Jack (it is quite sweet to me). Its also not a bad pounding whisky, rather smooth.

pepcycle
05-03-2006, 09:54
Rickets and Scurvy Incidence Up In Tennessee
by Jeff Yeast

A recent epidemic of Scurvy and Ricketts in Tennessee has been tied to the unavailability of George Dickel Whiskey. No scientific evidence supports the correlation, but nutrition insiders and bourbon experts agree that there is a connection.
This has no correlation to the "Asparagus" phenomenon that caused a scare in Kentucky several years ago
:slappin: :slappin: :slappin:

Dramiel McHinson
11-12-2006, 06:34
"ratcheer, Yes, GD No 12 was my main American whiskey ... In my opinion, it is hands down better than JD Black.

However, I am very concerned that with all the ups and downs of the distillery and the Canadian distribution (is that still going on?), it will become only a shadow of its former self before too long."

Tim

I've kept informed of the nebulous corporate machinations of the distillate world and though its frightening to think of the ultimate impact on our whisk(e)y, the truth is whisk(e)y has gone global. You can easily trace the owners of Jack Daniel's to a French company but then who owns the French company? It may be the same with George Dickel. Since the big conglomerates own many distilleries (Diageo) they tend to cooperate by distilling, maturing, and bottling in a cooperative effort. Hopefully, the result of whiskey's global maturity will bring us all a better dram and lower prices. I still have dreams....

Dramiel

ratcheer
11-12-2006, 06:43
Dramiel, that is exactly what I don't like about the whole deal. You see, one of the things that attracted me to straight American whiskey is the connection to old style, small scale craftsmanship. The idea that a very few people can set up a small factory, use centuries-old methods, and produce a traditional product.

It doesn't really concern me that the multinational conglomerates can use worldwide synergies to produce a product that may be as good or better than the hand crafted efforts.

Tim

Joeluka
11-12-2006, 07:12
" You can easily trace the owners of Jack Daniel's to a French company but then who owns the French company?
Dramiel

Doesn't Brown-Forman own JD?? Are they involved with some other company now????

barturtle
11-12-2006, 09:00
Doesn't Brown-Forman own JD?? Are they involved with some other company now????

Correct JD is owned by Brown Forman, based in Louisville, KY. Dickel on the other hand is owned by Diageo, based in London, England.

Funny, fooking at the Diageo website, they talk about how whiskey is produced and mentions I W Harper and Bulliet (it owns the brands, but not the distilleries they are made at) yet neglects to mention Dickel, which it does own:skep: ...

HighTower
11-14-2006, 03:02
And I rang a representative from Diageo the other day to see if Dickel was still distributed in Australia....they had no idea what I was talking about, talk about knowing the company profile!! When we had it here it was distributed by United Distillers.

Scott

camduncan
11-14-2006, 14:01
And I rang a representative from Diageo the other day to see if Dickel was still distributed in Australia....they had no idea what I was talking about, talk about knowing the company profile!! When we had it here it was distributed by United Distillers.

Scott

Scott, about three years ago, I used to be able to buy Dickel over the bar at Jupiters Casino on the Gold Coast.
I was back there earlier this year, and, unfortunately, they no longer have it on their whiskey list. I asked the barman if they were getting it back in, but he knew nothing of it.:hot:

HighTower
11-15-2006, 00:09
About 8 weeks ago one of my workmates in Ballina was at a wedding at Sanctuary Cove, and they had GD behind the bar. He thought maybe it was there for decoration, and asked if he could have two Dickels. They poured him one, then cracked another bottle. He rang there the following week to find out where they get it from, and they couldn't answer his question. They also had NONE left, so someone else had obviously been drinking it too. I have one bottle here that Ive had for a few years now, and I just gave away the remains of my 10yo 1987 vintage bottle, although I filled a miniature bottle with its contents before passing it on :grin:

Scott