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NeoTexan
04-26-2006, 10:30
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6273462925&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.co m%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D%2 B6273462925%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

NorCalBoozer
04-26-2006, 12:15
an average of $900/bottle??? good luck with that!

nor02lei
04-26-2006, 12:57
I have had a little contact with this guy. He just does this to get in contact with other bourbon collectors. He is not intending to sell his collection.

Leif

luv2hunt
04-26-2006, 13:12
So Leif...send him to sb.com!

Unless he's the guy that has things most of us "vill neva av"! LOL.....gazebo humor!

Dawn

ThomasH
04-26-2006, 13:20
A 1st mortgage for the purchase and an equity line of credit for the shipping!

Thomas

TNbourbon
04-26-2006, 14:46
So Leif...send him to sb.com!

Unless he's the guy that has things most of us "vill neva av"! LOL.....gazebo humor!

Dawn

I think, Dawn, there's already been some contact -- and we have some bourbon he will never have!

pepcycle
04-26-2006, 16:59
Who else would have access to this stuff?

nor02lei
04-27-2006, 04:27
His name is Michael and he is collecting + 20 years bourbon and Heinz´s is his pal who claim he has the biggest bourbon collection in the world. Than is about all i know.

Leif

jeff
04-27-2006, 06:04
He just does this to get in contact with other bourbon collectors. He is not intending to sell his collection.


I don't buy that argument. They both know we're here, and we have the world's largest collection of Bourbon Connoiseurs. :toast:

jspero
04-27-2006, 08:13
I just saw this and was about to post it. You beat me to the punch by a day. :) Very impressive, but SLIGHTLY out of my price range. Still, this is probably the only time I will see pictures of these (just in case I run across one cheap - yeah, right).

Jay

Hedmans Brorsa
04-27-2006, 08:45
Well, I´m usually at odds with the rest of the world so I have to say that none of these bottles hold any attraction whatsoever to me.

Then again, you´d expect that from me, wouldn´t you? :)

boone
04-27-2006, 08:48
His name is Michael and he is collecting + 20 years bourbon and Heinz´s is his pal who claim he has the biggest bourbon collection in the world. Than is about all i know.

Leif

Are they from Uberville? :grin:

Puterville? :grin:

Hooterville? :grin:

I'll go see if Billie Jo or Bobbi Jo knows 'em :grin: :grin:

NorCalBoozer
04-27-2006, 10:30
ok well to me it's a bit odd to make a fake ebay listing just to meet people for whatever reason.


I have had a little contact with this guy. He just does this to get in contact with other bourbon collectors. He is not intending to sell his collection.

Leif

nor02lei
04-27-2006, 12:44
ok well to me it's a bit odd to make a fake ebay listing just to meet people for whatever reason.

Well I guess one of the reasons is actually to sell (hope that’s not the only reason) but not his 20+ collection. His buddy Heinz holds tastings but it seems quit expensive and a bit off-road. And as somebody else said am sure he knows of this forum. I can agree it is a bit odd with a face add.

Leif

pepcycle
04-27-2006, 13:02
I will say that Heinz and Michael may not fit in with our Gazebo crowd, but they are OK by me.
They were generous enough to send a case of crystal glasses from the Whiskey Keller for sb.com members.

They shared some fine whiskey, although they were secretive about how they did it.

They've both been civil and social with me on all accounts.

Now, the issue of putting stuff on E-bay that's not intended to sell.
It happens all the time. New car dealers repeatedly list cars with high reserves to get leads. We recommend to people who want to know the value of bourbon to do just the same to test the market.

Let's not be so naive to think that contacts are less valuable than items.

bluesbassdad
04-27-2006, 14:14
Let's not be so naive to think that contacts are less valuable than items.

Shhh! Next thing you know, eBay will figure out a way to charge for contacts. :grin:

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

NorCalBoozer
04-27-2006, 14:16
I will say that Heinz and Michael may not fit in with our Gazebo crowd, but they are OK by me.
They were generous enough to send a case of crystal glasses from the Whiskey Keller for sb.com members.

They shared some fine whiskey, although they were secretive about how they did it.

They've both been civil and social with me on all accounts.

Now, the issue of putting stuff on E-bay that's not intended to sell.
It happens all the time. New car dealers repeatedly list cars with high reserves to get leads. We recommend to people who want to know the value of bourbon to do just the same to test the market.

Let's not be so naive to think that contacts are less valuable than items.

as we know with ebay, just because you can do it, doesn't make it right, or legal. I wasn't aware of this type of stuff, so i guess i know now.

I'm not saying that those involved are less that honest, accoring to you and others, they are not. But to me, it does reside in a grey area that could be not too far off from bait and switch(or phising) if the person is shady. I think clarity of listing would do a lot in this area.

Grant
04-27-2006, 14:51
Now, the issue of putting stuff on E-bay that's not intended to sell.
It happens all the time. New car dealers repeatedly list cars with high reserves to get leads.
We recommend to people who want to know the value of bourbon to do just the same to test the market.
Let's not be so naive to think that contacts are less valuable than items.


Using your example - if a car dealer places a car on eBay for sale - they may open the auction bidding at a low price - but have a reserve that must be met in order to sell the car. They may be trying to feel the marketplace out for that car - or future cars that they want to sell also - but they have a dollar amount in mind ( i.e. reserve amount ) that they want to get for the car. In those types of auctions - they can track the bidding war on the car to get an idea of who is willing to pay what.

It is illegal for sellers to contact bidders after an auction closes without a sale - to see if they want to buy that car outside of the eBay auction system. Anyone that suggests that using eBay for this purpose should read the rules.


The auction that this thread is about is totally different:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6273462925&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/6273462925_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

This is a "Buy It Now" auction - which does not allow for bidding at all. Therefore they have no clue as to what their collection is worth - because no one in their right mind would pay that much money.

$45,000 for a collection of 50 bottles of some great, some good & the rest unknown is a joke.

Let's give the collection the benefit of the doubt and say each bottle is worth $250.

$250 * 50 = $12,500

$45,000 - $12,500 = $32,500

Do the math.

With all due respect to the Bourbonian of the Year 2006, the nativity here is how eBay auctions work. I just hope that you didn't suggest their asking price.

[nativity should have been naivety]

pepcycle
04-27-2006, 15:15
Who comes to get you the E-bay police?

"It is illegal for sellers to contact bidders after an auction closes without a sale - to see if they want to buy that car outside of the eBay auction system. Anyone that suggests that using eBay for this purpose should read the rules"

Grant
04-27-2006, 15:21
Who comes to get you the E-bay police?

"It is illegal for sellers to contact bidders after an auction closes without a sale - to see if they want to buy that car outside of the eBay auction system. Anyone that suggests that using eBay for this purpose should read the rules"
I guess that you chose to disregard the rest of my response - and came up with only what I can take as - if you can get away with something - even if it's illegal - then do so.


Edit: **portions deleted** Can't we all just get along? -Jeff

pepcycle
04-27-2006, 15:43
It appears that my somewhat sarcastic response was taken wrong.

I must be very native.

Sorry.

Ed

Grant
04-27-2006, 15:58
It appears that my somewhat sarcastic response was taken wrong.

I must be very native.

Sorry.

Ed


Thanks - apology accepted - even if you aren't a native of Virginia.

nor02lei
05-07-2006, 14:22
I have had a little contact with this guy. He just does this to get in contact with other bourbon collectors. He is not intending to sell his collection.

Leif

Guess I was wrong. He is now selling them one by one at high but realistic prices.

Leif

BSS
05-07-2006, 15:45
Those prices are more reasonable, but I still wouldn't buy any of them. He has Stagg at like $130, so you can assume that many of the other bottles are are inflated as well. If he gets 130 for it, I know where about 20 Staggs and ER 17s are sitting on a shelf.

Plus their in Germany. If they were in the U.S., it would be much more attractive.

wku88
05-08-2006, 22:21
Well, I don't care where the guy gets his stash, or how much he wants for it, or, for that matter to discuss Evilbay policies: I just wanna know more about that Old Heaven Hill 21 year old. Anyone? Bueller?