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pete_d
10-10-2006, 23:08
I need opinions.
I'm looking at getting a whole bunch of Scotches that represent a particular region well, and i've pared it down to what's decently priced and available in Aus. These are:

Aberlour 10yo
Glenlivit 12yo
Glenfiddich 12yo

opinions are needed as to the most consistent and most representative of the archetypal Speyside Malt. I'm strictly limited to this price range, since i'm getting a bunch of other stuff on a shoestring uni student budget.

although any other opinions would be welcome...

PD

Virus_Of_Life
10-11-2006, 00:22
I need opinions.
I'm looking at getting a whole bunch of Scotches that represent a particular region well, and i've pared it down to what's decently priced and available in Aus. These are:

Aberlour 10yo
Glenlivit 12yo
Glenfiddich 12yo

opinions are needed as to the most consistent and most representative of the archetypal Speyside Malt. I'm strictly limited to this price range, since i'm getting a bunch of other stuff on a shoestring uni student budget.

although any other opinions would be welcome...

PD

I don't drink much Scotch, ok well none anymore, but when I did it was amost always the Fiddich 15 or the Livet 12. I found those two to be almost equals and very similar, I thought the Fiddich 12 lost something; therefore along the lines of your post seemed to lose some value that the Livet 12 had. Never had the Aberlour...

TomH
10-11-2006, 06:28
It's really hard to pick a single malt that represents the diversity of the Speyside.

Of the 3, I'd probably choose the Aberlour 10 (Glevlivet 12 would be my 2nd choice).

I understand about having to live within budget limits (and not knowing availability or pricing in Australia), but Glenfarclas is only $6 more (here in the US) and I really think you get a lot of bang for those additional dollars.

If it is available, the Speyburn is actually a decent drinking value (its about $13 a bottle cheaper than the others here in the US).

TimmyBoston
10-13-2006, 04:45
Glenlivet is not the best Scotch out there, but it is always good, I always keep a bottle on hand, so soft and soothing. It's also fantastic for introducing people to Scotch, a wonderful started and it mixes into a great Hot Toddy, especially now that it's getting colder.

Vange
10-13-2006, 06:12
I like the Macallans. So, Mac 12 is my vote.

TNbourbon
10-13-2006, 08:32
Glen Moray is made by the Glenmorangie folks, and is a pretty typical Speyside -- floral and light.
Also, it's about half the price as the others, though 12 years old.

chasking
10-19-2006, 01:29
I'm a fan of Glenfiddich but I think it has a very distinctive flavor; I don't think it is a "typical" Speysider.

Around here Tomatin is easy to find and not at all expensive.

dougdog
10-19-2006, 09:04
I voted "OTHER"...The new Lismore "single Malt" that is currently available everywhere is a Glenfarclas 5yo, a wonderful balance of sherry cask without covering up the distillery character kinda malt. Around 20 bucks...

I'm having a hard time with Mac 12 being on the list as an inexpensive pour.

Off topic, the new "blue Label" edition of Finlaggin at trader Joe's is a young Caol Ila, Islay malt. Again a great bargain, fewer than 20 bucks!

Maybe the best bang for the buck that I recently ran across was a cask strength, unchillfiltered 10yo edition of Ardbeg from an independent bottler called Ellenstown, 51 bucks...I dare you to find any edition of Ardbeg with a similar spec for anywhere near that price!

Hedmans Brorsa
10-20-2006, 07:05
A very good VFM Speyside available here in Sweden, is the 12yo Strathisla.

This one is on the heavier side of the Speyside spectrum. Extremely malty and quite fruity, to boot.

Whether or not this is available in Oz-land is, of course, beyond my knowledge.

chasking
10-21-2006, 06:01
Among independents, Signatory Vintage Highland was for a while at least young Glenrothes whiskey, and pretty good single malt for $20 a bottle. The origins of their whiskey can change (the Signatory Vintage Islay used to be from Lagavulin; now it's from Laphroaig, which is a pretty big difference) but I've never heard that the Highland was from anywhere but Glenrothes.

AVB
11-01-2006, 17:32
I know that Balvenie is available in Oz and that would be my pick, the 12 yo Balvenie DoubleWood. Unlike most here I'm a scotch drinker who dabbles in bourbon rather then the other way around.

CrispyCritter
11-01-2006, 19:14
My vote went with the Aberlour, but I certainly wouldn't turn down a Glenlivet. I'd put Gienfiddich in third place, though.

The only Glen Garioch I tried was lovely from the nose/palate standpoint, but it gave me a headache every time I drank it.:banghead:

pete_d
11-03-2006, 05:54
well, thank you all for your input and suggestions. I've gotten my hands on a Glenlivet 12 and Tamdhu NAS. Both are quite similar in overall styles, but the Glenlivet 12 has a trifle more malt to it, and the Tamdhu has a bit more of a peaty vibe. both are very fresh, but the Tamdhu has a far shorter finish,which loses marks from me

next up is that Aberlour if i ever find one. The Balvenie looks the good from reviews and tasting notes, but is the price of Talisker 10, Ardbeg 10, Highland Park 12 and Bruichladdich 12 around here. and if i had $70AUS to spare, it'd be sunk into those babies...

PD

Mr. Smith
11-23-2006, 02:48
I need opinions.
I'm looking at getting a whole bunch of Scotches that represent a particular region well, and i've pared it down to what's decently priced and available in Aus. These are:

Aberlour 10yo
Glenlivit 12yo
Glenfiddich 12yo

opinions are needed as to the most consistent and most representative of the archetypal Speyside Malt. I'm strictly limited to this price range, since i'm getting a bunch of other stuff on a shoestring uni student budget.

although any other opinions would be welcome...

PD

Of the ones you mention here, my first pick would be Aberlour 10. this was just awarded a gold medal by drinks international in their spirits competition. a great whisky with more than a hint of sherry. matured on sherrycasks, finished on bourbon. Excellent!!
But the others you mention here a good whiskies as well.
If you come across a bottle of Strathisla 12 or Longmorn 15, do not pass them by!! Also very good Speysides.

Dramiel McHinson
11-23-2006, 07:15
I have all three of the Speysides mentioned (Aberlour, Glenlivit, Glen Fiddich) Each is a good whisky at a good price. The Glen Moray and Glen Morangie are also very good for just a few dollars more in my area. Unfortunately, these whiskies don't get better reviews from people who enjoy a more flavorful or stronger palate from their whisky. If you see a Glen Livet French Oak Reserve in your price range, you'll get more flavor and the price may not be too much more than what you have already selected. All the choices aside, the objective should be to pour off a good dram, relax and contemplate good things.

Slainte!

boss302
03-18-2007, 10:55
I need opinions.
I'm looking at getting a whole bunch of Scotches that represent a particular region well, and i've pared it down to what's decently priced and available in Aus. These are:

Aberlour 10yo
Glenlivit 12yo
Glenfiddich 12yo

opinions are needed as to the most consistent and most representative of the archetypal Speyside Malt. I'm strictly limited to this price range, since i'm getting a bunch of other stuff on a shoestring uni student budget.

although any other opinions would be welcome...

PD

I would replace Glenlivet with Balvenie 10-year. It's a little less expensive, and the Glenlivet is almost NEVER on sale, unlike Glenfiddich, which has been discounted every now and then.

The Balvenie is a lot like the Aberlour, with a hearty, malty body and a light-to-moderate peated-ness.

Both the Glenlivet and Glenfiddich 12-years, on the other hand, feel a little "flimsy" in comparison.

ThomasH
03-18-2007, 11:16
I have some scotch from each region of Scotland, although my favorites are from the same region and include Edradour, Deanston, Glengoyne, Aberfeldy, Inchmurrin, Dalwhinnie etc. Which ever brand you choose, don't hesitate too long as the prices are going up rapidly. Ardbeg 10 was selling for 38.80 in Ohio during the holidays and went up to 50.00+ on March 1st. A Speysider that has never disappointed me is Glenfiddich 15 Solera Reserve!

Thomas

boss302
03-18-2007, 22:50
A Speysider that has never disappointed me is Glenfiddich 15 Solera Reserve!

Thomas

Now THAT is a good Glenfiddich! Nice, light sherry note to it.

I haven't yet tried the Ancient Reserve (18-year) yet, though.

BTW, for those unfamiliar with Sherry, a Solera is a large wooden vat used to "marry" the sherry together before bottling.

You can find an explanation of the process HERE! (http://www.sandeman.com/ing/sherry.html)

mier
05-27-2007, 15:19
The cheapest one i bought was a Drumguish from the Speyside distillery nice to drink but nothing fancy.Eric.

Pharaoh
05-30-2007, 13:05
...other - more to the "Highland" style, though

Glen Garioch 15
Glenfarclas 12

Keenan
06-07-2007, 08:51
The Aberlour 10 is excellent, however for just a few dollars more the Aberlour a'bunadh is even better. Cask strength, non-chill filtered with a nose so rich it's like a trail mix.

Cornman
06-16-2007, 22:58
If the price is right I think Cragganmore 12 yo is worth going out of your way. I'm not familiar with Aberlour, but Cragganmore roundly beats the other two for me.

And by the way, what should I drink when I come to Sydney next month?

heatmiser
06-18-2007, 16:54
One would be hard pressed to find a better Speysider than Glenfiddich 15 Solera Reserve in the low price range. You can usually find it on sale for less than $30 in southern California. IMO, you would have to get up around $45-$50 to do any better...

mier
06-19-2007, 00:34
Heatmiser,the Solera is nice but the Caoran gives me more satisfaction,ever tried it?Eric.

heatmiser
06-19-2007, 07:51
I have never seen that version of Glenfiddich before. Can you buy it in the states?

mier
06-20-2007, 03:02
Here in Europe it is wellknown but in the States i`m not sure try a good liquershop it is worth it.Eric.

AVB
06-20-2007, 05:36
Glenfiddich Caoran (pronunced "ku-ran") is not available in the US. It is a 12 year old Glenfiddich finished in casks which previously held Islay whisky. About $54 (£27.00) in the UK

heatmiser
06-20-2007, 08:33
I like the sounds of that one! I will have to get a buddy of mine to get some when he is overseas on business!!!

heatmiser
06-20-2007, 08:37
I just visited a forum for Scotch Whiskey and nobody had anything good to say about the Glenfiddich Caoran. Interesting...

mier
06-22-2007, 01:03
May be those guys didn`t have a good day,it is really nice several sites i`ve been on they loved it ,could it be for the Islay casks?Laphroig and Ardbeg are not everybody`s favorite.Anyway i like it and you really should try:drink:may be they sell mini`s?Eric.

boss302
04-28-2008, 22:07
If the price is right I think Cragganmore 12 yo is worth going out of your way. I'm not familiar with Aberlour, but Cragganmore roundly beats the other two for me.

And by the way, what should I drink when I come to Sydney next month?


I would like to second Cragganmore, although I'm sticking to my guns with the Balvenie.

Even though they are not from Speyside, you may want to try the Dalwhinnie 15-year and Dalmore 12-year. Both are excellent, moderately-sherried Highlands.

Megawatt
04-30-2008, 04:51
It's been a while since I've had it, but I found that The Glenlivet 12 is richer in flavour than Glenfiddich 12. Haven't tried Aberlour 10, though...

CorvallisCracker
04-30-2008, 10:29
I'm pretty sure the Aberlour 10 has been replaced by a 12. There is only a 12 on the store shelves here in OR, anyway.

drrich1965
04-30-2008, 12:26
Glenfarclas 12 is my top pick, and it often is very well priced (35 bucks at times). The whole Farclas line is very well priced, with the 21yo often around 100 dollars- not bad for a 21 year old whisk(e)y these days..

I am not a big fan of Glenfiddich 12, but just love the honey/oaky balance of the 15.

Glenlivet 12 is solid, a nice malty malt.

I am not a big fan of Aberlour 10 (I think the 12 is an addition, not replacment). The quality of the sherry is far to grappy and sappy for me- I like my malt to taste of malt. The Farclas is well sherried, but far more in balance.

Aberfeldy 12 is a pretty nice pour, although blind I would think it is a blend- a hint on the grainy thin side, but still nice.

Shout outs were given to some highlanders- Dalmore 12 is a great bang for the buck malt, nice smoky, citrus quality.

Since we expanded the region somewhat, Glengoyne 10 is a very good malty malt, a malt monster if you will.

boss302
04-30-2008, 16:21
I am not a big fan of Aberlour 10 (I think the 12 is an addition, not replacment).


Is the 12-year even available in the US? According to the website, there are two 12-year expressions-- one duty-free, one specific to France (Aberlour's primary market).

CorvallisCracker
04-30-2008, 17:09
Is the 12-year even available in the US? According to the website, there are two 12-year expressions-- one duty-free, one specific to France (Aberlour's primary market).

I believe Oregon is part of the US.

Stu
04-30-2008, 17:15
Since we're voting for other than the top three listed, and we've left speyside...I vote for Dalmore or Old Pultney. They are both excellent highland whiskys and they are frequently on sale for much less than any of the others. I've bought Dalmore 12 at Christmas time for as little as $16/bottle if you buy a case. Normal price is about $35 top. I have to get Old Pultney when I travel, and I usually get it in OK city for less than $30 (usually closer to $20). Tomatin is another that is reasonably priced (in the 20s) that is good, and it is a speyside. Just my opinion, but then, we all know what opinions are like.

Are any of these available in Oz?

Stu

Gov
04-30-2008, 19:51
Yes, Old Pulteney and The Dalmore I will vouch for. Two of my favorites at great bargains!

boss302
04-30-2008, 21:26
I believe Oregon is part of the US.

My apologies, Corvallis, I didn't check.

Although there are those who would argue if the "left coast" really is part of the US...

(just kidding, of course!)

CorvallisCracker
05-01-2008, 09:18
My apologies, Corvallis, I didn't check.

Although there are those who would argue if the "left coast" really is part of the US...


I'd be tempted to agree if I wasn't paying so much federal income tax.

As for the 12yo Aberlour, it's the most commonly stocked Aberlour in local liquor stores. Price is $35.95 (yesterday it was $31.95, the last day of an OLCC "Monthly Special"[1]).

Most places also stock the 16yo and the a'bunadh, plus I know of a store with some dusty bottles of the 15yo (at least the last time I was there, about six weeks ago now).

1. Shouldn't have let this get by me, was going to buy a bottle to set aside as an Xmas gift for my daughter's boyfriend.