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**DONOTDELETE**
10-31-2001, 11:27
OK Folks

It is simple enough. Just what is your favorite bourbon? Take it down any way you like. Screen it. Segregate it any way you'd like to. You've only got one choice. What is it?

My choice for the verrry best bourbon on the planet is and remains to this very day Wild Turkey Kentuckey Spirit - dumped on 11-12-98 from barrel Number One stored in rickhouse E on rick number 2.

I said it. It's the truth. You can believe it.

Now you tell me - What's the very best bourbon you've ever tasted? No hemmin' or hawin'. One bottling and one bottling only. What is it? You've got one shot and one shot only.

What is it? Any distillery. Any brand. Any Year. Any proof. Have at it.

Your Great Grand Ma wears Army Boots!



Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

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10-31-2001, 16:18
Linn,
This is an easy one for me. I have said before, and I will say again, that the all time best bourbon I have ever drank is Very Xtra Old Fitzgerald Bottled in Bond, distilled in 1968 and bottled in 1983. This bourbon was heaven on earth, the nectar of the gods, the one bourbon I would love to drink every day if I could find it. At 15 years old it was perfect. Julian's father had a great product in 1968 but this bottling was one for the record books. I know you don't care for wheated bourbons, but you would have loved this one.

Mike Veach

johnrobe
10-31-2001, 20:14
Whichever one happens to be in my glass at the moment. (sorry, I couldn't resist)

I would have to vote for Blanton's with the caveat that there are still so many bourbons that I haven't tried!! To be honest I've never purchased a bottle of Blanton's but a college buddy of mine, who also lived in Dallas, would always offer it when I visited. And you can be sure, I never refused. I normally have an aversion to spending more than $30 for a 750ml bottle of bourbon. Maybe that's part of why I enjoyed it so, it was a rare treat.

JR

ratcheer
10-31-2001, 20:33
This is too hard of a question, but...

The very best I ever tasted was the one and only drink I ever had of Blanton. I believe it was in 1988.

I can't wait until I can try it again. I plan to buy myself a bottle for Christmas. It is pretty far out of my price range, but I'm going to bite the bullet and do it (I hope).

Cheers, Tim

Hedmans Brorsa
11-01-2001, 03:17
Obviously my range is somewhat limited compared to some of you fellas. I have, for instance, tasted several Wild Turkeys but not the Kentucky Spirit (But believe me, I will).

Anyway, from the 30 or so bourbons that Iīve had the opportunity to taste, I would opt for Old Rip van Winkle, 15 year old, 107 proof. With all due respect to Linn, I have to raise some objections to his tasting notes, especially concerning his assessments of the nose and finish. But thatīs another story...

Best wishes,
H.B.

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11-01-2001, 05:17
Good Hedmans I'm glad you have a different take on Old Rip. That's exactly what I think the tasting sections of this forum are for. So that others will comment on the subject bourbon. Of course everyone will experiance a bourbon differently from someone else. Go ahead and post your results on the Old Rip thread. I hope others will do the same. By comparing notes in this fashion we all grow.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

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11-01-2001, 05:32
Tim & JR,

Niether one of you has any Blanton's in the house?! Egads! Do buy some just as soon as you can. I've found that Blanton's has about the best barrel to barrel consistancy of any single barrel offering. I keep three full bottles on hand at all times. I always buy more whenever it's on sale. I will usually open a bottle and empty it the same day. I have no self control at all when it comes to Blanton's,because it's just that damn good! Rock On!

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

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11-01-2001, 05:38
I believe ya Mike! I like Old Rip 15 y.o. just fine and think that everyone should have a bottle. Does that even come close to the Xtra Old Fitz? Should you ever come by another bottle (and I betting you will) save me a taste would ya?

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

johnrobe
11-01-2001, 09:57
It's because I like Blanton's that I'm really eager to try Elmer T. Lee SB. I'm hoping that it will be almost, if not equally as good and a bit more affordable. Isn't it pretty much the same whiskey (mashbill, age, water, yeast) , just from a different part of the barrelhouse?

tdelling
11-01-2001, 10:09
Best Bourbon Ever:

Tim Dellinger's home vatted "Old No. 12"

mix according to the following approximate recipe:

47% Elijah Craig Single Barrel 18 YO (barreled 9-13-82, Barrel No. 449)
47% Old Rip Van Winkle 15 YO ( #L273)
6% Wild Turkey Rare Breed (batch WT-01-99)

The woody backdrop of ECSB18, the charm of Old Rip 15, and light overtones
of rye from WT. The best bourbon I've ever had.

(I finished off my Old Rip 13 YO Rye before I starting "home vatting", but I
suspect that the chocolate notes in the 13YO rye would make it a great
ingredient to toy with.)

Tim

Creggor
11-01-2001, 11:44
Hello Linn, Your asing me to name only one.. That's not fair it's just darn right mean. As you know I have in stock and have tried most all the good and some not so good Bourbons. But if you told me tonight would be my last night on this earth and I could only take one bottle to help me thru the night I would have to take a bottle of 20yr Vanwinkle Pappy Family Reserve.. I know they make a old (Rye) and a new (wheat) I would take 1/2 bottle of each. and That still only equals one bottle..The thought of not have any more of these is enough to kill me all by itself. 16 & 20Yr Hirsch, 90 & 91 Evan Williams Single barrel, 12 & 13yr Vanwinkle Ryes, 15 yr and 23yr Vanwinkles, Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit, Rare Breed, Russells Reserve, Knob creek, Jeffersons Reserve, Bookers, Bakers, Eagle Rare 17yr, Sazerac Rye, 19yr Weller, 10yr Weller Centenial, Old Charter Proprietors Reserve, Blantons, Very Special 12yr Old Fitzgerald, 14yr & 16yr Black maple Hills, Rock Hill Farms, 12YR Wild Turkey, Elijah craig 12yr Single barrel Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel, Woodfords Reserve, Pure Kentucky XO Small Batch. Buffalo Trace, Just a side note. I just acquired the 1991 Evan Williams Single barrel today. I have to work from 5/10 tonight so will not be able to try it until I get home so it's possible that I may like this one the best. But for now it's Julian's 20yr Vanwinkle Family Reserve. Linn I will let you know how I like the 91 Evan Williams as you told me you like the 91 better than the 90. For the Money $20 +- a little I feel that 90 Evan Williams is the best bang for the buck on the market today. So if the 91 is indeed equal or better I will be getting more soon. Sorry for being so long winded on your simple question. Creggor..

cowdery
11-01-2001, 13:28
Very Very Old Fitzgerald, made Fall 1963, bottled Fall 1976, consumed Fall 1996.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

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11-01-2001, 15:36
Chuck,
A very good choice. I have had some of the 63 distillation at 8 YO and it too was very good.
Mike Veach

vasshopper
11-01-2001, 16:02
Very Very Old Fitzgerald 100* 12yr made in 68 and bottled in 80 and did have 9 bottles but alas, now i have only 4 left. it is very very good and life is good--den

**DONOTDELETE**
11-01-2001, 17:07
Best one there is:
Jefferson reserve Bottle 1447 of 2400. Batch #5.
There is no comparison

ratcheer
11-01-2001, 18:34
It is entirely a matter of price. The regular price at the AL ABC is $45 and I have never seen it on sale.

For that money, I can get regularly priced bottles of Rare Breed and Elijah Craig 12 YO. It is such a stretch for me to consider $45 for a bottle of whiskey, no matter how good it is. Like I said, though, I'm going to try to get myself to buy a bottle for Christmas.

Of course, I also want to try Kentucky Spirit. It is only $46 per bottle!

Tim

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11-02-2001, 06:09
I hear ya Tim. Do what I do. Tell yourself that your worth it and buy both! You'll be glad that you did.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

Forbes
11-02-2001, 08:29
This is a tough question in that there are many fine products out there. If I would name one it would be Old Charter Proprietors Reserve. This was probably the first super-premium bourbon I tried and have been a fan ever since.

I also enjoy Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit, Blantons, and Jefferson Reserve when I feel like a bourbon a cut above the normal.

On my Christmas list this year are to try the Van Winkle products. I have never tried them except for a sip at the gazebo at this years Bourbon Festival and I was diffentially intrigued.

Todd

**DONOTDELETE**
11-02-2001, 09:37
Now that is a most interesting choice, Todd. I like Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve quite a bit myself. The 12 year old 'Classic 90' is also very good and half the price of OCP'sR. I would never have thought that any of 'The Bourbon Heritage Collection' bottlings would have been chosen. Good for you! This just goes to show what a truely diverse band of brothers we Bourbonians really are, and that there is no one right answer.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

Forbes
11-02-2001, 10:41
Linn,

With the breakup of the 'The Bourbon Heritage Collection', I am not sure if our local liquor stores will continue to carry the Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve. So I have been drinking it pretty sparingly. I know I purchased the last couple of bottles at my local store about a month and half ago and they filled the spot with a different bourbon. I will look for the 'Classic 90' and give it a try.

I have found that our area does not seem to have the selection of some other areas of the country. I have watched for a couple of bourbons suggested by other users and some I can find and some I can not. I know I picked up a bottle of Elmer T. Lee in Bardstown, but can not find it up here. I haven't had any luck finding the Van Winkle products up here either.

Todd

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11-02-2001, 13:01
Todd now that Buffalo Trace owns that brand I'm sure that they will continue to bottle whatever sells. Old Charter's sales volume may be small, but I'm willing to bet that they are steady. We'll just have to ask Ken Weber about it. One of the most impressive things about StraightBourbon.com is the number of direct resources available to the bourbon industry. If bourbonic knowledge is what you're after, StraightBourbon is the place to be.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

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11-02-2001, 21:24
Pappy Van Winkle 20 (the new bottling)
for a more affordable everyday pour I really enjoy Russell's Reserve.

~Linda~
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Creggor
11-03-2001, 00:01
Hello, Linda. Nice to see another fan of the 20yr Pappy Vanwinkle Family Reserve. I have tried both the old and new and would give the nod to the new. I am so looking foward when Julian will have the new 23yr Pappy..Maybe another 2 yrs maybe little less. Then I believe all of Julians bourbons will be wheated. The 20yr is not something I can afford to drink everyday it's set aside for friends and special occasions. For a more affordable daily drink I enjoy the 13yr Vanwinkle Family Reserve Rye and 90 & 91 Evan Williams Single barrel. So many good bourbons to choose from. Take care Creggor.

Ekki
11-03-2001, 17:37
Hi folks,

and first of all greetings from Germany.

Well, unfortunately the availabilty of Kentucky straight bourbon & rye & Tennessee whiskey is rather limited over here (in contrast to Scotch whisky) so I probably won't be able to add any new ideas or 'exclusiveness' here. But since you asked for it... ;-)

So, right now I have to decide between Olde St. Nick Winter Rye (for its mellowness), Woodford Reserve (for 'overall performance') and Wild Turkey Rye.
My choice ? Wild Turkey Rye - great whiskey.

Best,
Ekki

ratcheer
11-03-2001, 21:16
Wild Turkey Rye? Sounds pretty exclusive, to me. Two of my favorites are W. T. 101 and W. T. Rare Breed. I can also get Russell's Reserve and Kentucky Spirit.

But I've never seen a W. T. Rye.

Cheers, Tim

Blackkeno
11-04-2001, 00:02
Are you crazy asking a question like this? Pick one! I've been up at night thinking about this post for days (not just thinking though). Seriously this evolved into one of the best threads on this great forum. It also gave me an excuse to try all my favorate bourbons at the same time! My favorate changed at least three times in the past two days--usually it was whatever I was drinking.

I am a big fan of Kentucky Spirit (2-19-98, barrel # 01, warehouse E, rick number 25) and thought this might be my number one. But I followed it with Hirsch 20 which evolved over an hour or so in a way I had not previously noticed. Hirsch edged out in front for depth and complexity.

On the other hand I'm partial to wheaters and so I also thought that Weller Centennial might take my top spot, but another wheater pulled out ahead.

Now I want to point out that I don't have Blantons, and I haven't opened my Hirsch 16 or Pappy 23 yet so they weren't in the running this time.

But now is where I lose all my credibility (did I ever have any?). My top bourbon is Maker's Mark Limited Edition (50.5% abv duty free). It has a fullness and complexity on the nose and palate that trumped by beloved Weller and even my recently hightened appreciation for Hirsch 20. It posesses all that I love in wheaters as well as a different type of sweetness that I found addictive. This is my favorate--as I'm typing this today. Who knows tomorrow?

Ekki
11-04-2001, 06:17
Hi Tim,

is it (exclusive) ?

Thought the 'Rye' was part of their standard product range.

http://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/flock/us.htm

I mean, you can't buy this whiskey at every kiosk over here but overall availabilty is good.
I also like the Rare Breed and the 101 is next on my shopping list. Btw, there was in interview with Jimmy Russell in the latest issue of Whisky Magazine. Obviously a great guy.

Best,
Ekki

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11-04-2001, 06:33
Ekki,
The WT rye isn't that widely available. I've only seen it in Kentucky. Oh! and Ekki rye is whiskey but it's not bourbon. The only bourbon you listed in your previous post was Woodford Reserve. An excellent bourbon and a great choice.

Jimmy Russell is a truely great man. One of the best things about going to the Bourbon Festival is you get to meet many of the master distillers. Two guys from Whisky Mag were handing out free copies of the issue with Jimmy on the cover. I got one and then my wife, Vickie, found Jimmy walking in front of Spaulding Hall and got got his autograph. We first meet Jimmy on a distillery tour at Wild Turkey two years ago.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

Blackkeno
11-04-2001, 09:46
I'm not sure if there is more than one version of WT Rye, but I picked up my bottle at a standard liquor store here in Las Vegas. In general, because of the wholesaler system (out of California) we don't have a great selection of spirits here in Nevada.

rwilps
11-04-2001, 11:59
As far as I know, there is only one version of WT rye (I checked their website just to make sure), and it is widely available in the Pennsylvania LCB stores. It's not priced or packaged as a premium product - it's lined up with WT 101 here. But now that you mention it, I'll have to get a bottle again - it will be interesting to stack it up against the really high-end ryes which are now becoming available.

Ralph Wilps

Ekki
11-04-2001, 17:29
There's just one version but they changed the label some time ago.

cowdery
11-05-2001, 11:19
The Wild Turkey Rye is pretty easy to find here in Chicago.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

**DONOTDELETE**
11-05-2001, 11:33
OK It looks as if Wild Turkey Rye is available everywhere except; Alabama, North Carolina, and Virginia. If it's not available in all 50 states then I would say that it is not widely available.

What does 'widely available' mean? Does it mean anywhere in the U.S.A.; in any European country, and in Japan? Or does it mean in any of the 50 states?

If it is not on my ABC store's shelves or isn't available by special order then it is not widely available.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-05-2001, 12:58
Hi Folks,
Linn, Im very glad you said it is that simple.
Im brand new to this group, and basically joined to learn and enjoy. Unfortunately drinking bourbon neat is not currently a subject I can contribute to. I like bourbon and coke, and I dont know anything about my great grandma boots, but I still remember as a child, my grandfather telling me to always drink a straight whisky, and never partake of a blended brand. I still standby this advise in whisky. But, whisky is made mostly from corn (meant to feed cattle) and some barley (a dreadful waste) or some other grains. Forgive me, but when drinking anything neat, I can think of nothing better than a single malt scotch. Basically, thats why IM here, not to argue, but to learn of something that might change my mind.
thanks, and please dont boot me out, just yet.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-05-2001, 15:40
Amalegen first let me welcome you to the forum which we call 'Bourbonia', and second let me tell you that I'm just a forum member and can't boot anybody off. Only Jim Butler can do that. He owns StraightBourbon.com

We don't talk scotch or canadian whisky here. That can be done on other websites. Straight Bourbon Whiskey is what we're all about. All straight bourbons are by definition 'single malts'. We take this for granted as nothing special. Most scotchs are blends, and therefore inferior. So all this 'single malt' stuff is just a bunch of hoopla or marketing hype.

Corn is a gift from God. It has always fed people as well as animals. Corn is good and sweet. Most bourbon is made from corn; rye, and malted barley. Some is made from corn, wheat, and malted barley.

Do yourself a favor and take some time to explore the many different topics and read the different threads available here on the forum. Also if you don't have any bourbon at home do go out and buy some. Please stop drinking that nasty scotch.



Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

ratcheer
11-05-2001, 16:44
Maybe it is a regional thing. We real southerners probably wouldn't buy rye whiskey even if it was on the shelves.

Tim

**DONOTDELETE**
11-05-2001, 19:07
I do believe that you are right Tim. I have tried three ryes; Jim Beam, Old Overholt (also by Jim Beam), and Wild Turkey. I was not impressed to the point that I would rather have a straight rye over bourbon. I prefer bourbon made with a traditional rye recipe, and that is never going to change.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

Creggor
11-05-2001, 20:34
Hello, Linn. Please do try some of Vanwinkles 12 & 13yr Ryes and give us your opinion of these. Julians 13yr Rye is one of my top 5 whiskeys. Speaking of top five here are mine. Not in any particular order. Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit. 16yr Hirsch, Vanwinkle 13yr Rye, Vanwinkle 15yr 107 Proof, and 1990 or 91 Evan Williams Single barrel. Now I did not include the 20yr (new) Pappy Vanwinkle Family Reserve as It my all time favorite as it is out of most folks price range and one I will only drink with special friends or ocassions. All the others I can usually afford to drink when the urge occurs. This selection allows me some of the best Wheaters, Rye whiskey and Rye flavored Bourbons available today. Its been at least 8 months maybe more since we have had a top 5 list. Maybe we can get some more opinions of top 5's seems there are always some new bourbons coming on the market and some that just keep getting better all the time. Creggor..

Creggor
11-05-2001, 21:30
Hello, Linn. I might have to think your somewhat correct. Tonight I opened a bottle of Vanwinkle 15yr 107 Proof and Kentuckey Spirit 3/1/00 Barrel #5 warehouse F. Rick #46. I really like Julians 15yr 107 Proof but in all honesty the Kentucky Spirit would win out. I had 2 bottles of the kentucky Spirit both with the same lots numbers etc so I decided to open one and try and do an honest comparrision. Hard to do after your feeling the effects of 2-2oz drinks of Julians Bourbon. But the overall balance of the Kentucky Spirit really came thur. I really like this Bourbon that is why it is on my top 5 list actually both are on my top 5 list. I like both for different reasons but if I had to take one over the other I would take the Kentucky Spirit. Really a very hard choice. This coming week I expect Kentucky Spirit to go on sale and I will see if I can afford to add 2 bottles to my holdongs. Creggor

**DONOTDELETE**
11-06-2001, 13:40
Creggor,
Henry's last contribution to the forum was the "Top 5 Bourbons" thread that is now on page 8 of the general topics board. I just reread it and it is still very much a viable thread. I would encourage all of our newer members to read through it. If anyone should feel like making a comment then please do so as the forum software will reactivate the thread and bring it forward to the top of the order for all the world to see.

The thread we're in now "What is your favorite bourbon?" Is just a slightly different version of that old game "Let me tell you about the bourbon I really love". I thought it would stir up a little interest and encourage others to post. It has brought forth two new registered forum members that either were or would have just been anonymus readers. I must say that this has worked remarkably well.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

MurphyDawg
06-10-2002, 10:06
Thats right!!!!! If I CAN'T buy it (which by the way I cant buy WT RYE in ohio), the it sure as hell ain't widely available, in my humble opinion.


TomC

PS to throw you guys a loop, as of 06-10-02 my absolute favorite bourbon is Ancient Ancient Age 10 year, followed closely by Rare Breed, but this has changed 4 times this week http://www.straightbourbon.com/images/icons/wink.gif!!!

**DONOTDELETE**
06-10-2002, 12:21
That's right Tom! Life in a 'controlled' [read state owned or socialist] liquor state isn't all that grand. I do have to say that I do get some deals now and again that the 'free liquor' boys don't, but they a few and far in between.

If I want Wild Turkey Rye I have to damn well go to Kentucky and get it! That and more than just few other whiskies. Oh well I always enjoy my trips to Kentucky. Beautiful state. Good people. Fine food. Great whiskey!http://www.straightbourbon.com/images/icons/smile.gif Pretty women. Fast Horses. Oh yeah did I mention great whiskey?

If you live in a 'controlled state' that's all the more reason to come to Kentucky for every Bourbon Festival. It's a good time.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.