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sysrick
02-28-2007, 19:10
Excellent article on cocktails with a shout out to "The Old Fashioned".

,,,but we like to sip Bourbon and mix rye.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2007/02/the-old-fashioned.html

ratcheer
02-28-2007, 20:08
I have probably never had one that was made correctly, but I have never enjoyed an Old Fashioned. And it has always appealed to me, i.e., I wanted to enjoy them.

I need to read the article you linked and try to make a good one.

Tim

ILLfarmboy
02-28-2007, 21:25
I have made exactly one Old Fashioned. I used a couple wedges of a clementine in place of the orange slice. I went to heavy on the bitters ruining the drink. I got hooked on Manhattans and never tried making another Old Fashioned. I nead to try again.

jeff
03-01-2007, 02:35
Leslie and I have been enjoying a few of these lately. We've had a lot of luck using blood oranges. Not so much luck using key limes :lol:

Ubertaster
03-01-2007, 06:28
I don't know what or if it is called any kind of drink but I have been adding a dash or two of orange bitters to my Rittenhouse Rye lately. This seems really refreshing to me. I sounds like an old fashion without the sugar water. I also like a cherry added once in a while. I might add that a dash or two of orange bitters added to some of the more bottom shelve rums kicks them up a notch also.

bj

OscarV
03-01-2007, 14:18
I had an Old Fashion once, at the Maker's Mark Lounge in Louisville.
They use a sugar cube.

ratcheer
03-01-2007, 18:33
I need to read the article you linked and try to make a good one.

Tim

Looks easy. I'll definitely try one.

Tim

Edward_call_me_Ed
03-01-2007, 22:44
I don't know what or if it is called any kind of drink but I have been adding a dash or two of orange bitters to my Rittenhouse Rye lately. This seems really refreshing to me. I sounds like an old fashion without the sugar water. I also like a cherry added once in a while. I might add that a dash or two of orange bitters added to some of the more bottom shelve rums kicks them up a notch also.

bj

I sometimes add a drop or two of orange bitters to Old Grand Dad, either the BIB or the 114. I don't always want that but once in a while it is the perfect "mixed drink"

Ed

jeff
03-02-2007, 04:46
Last night we made these again, but substituted Reagans Orange bitters for the Angostura. It made a really nice, but different drink.

ratcheer
03-02-2007, 16:11
Ah, I just made an Old Fashioned cocktail by the standard recipe given in the article. I am drinking it, right now. It is awesome!

To clarify, I measured a teaspoon of sugar into an on-the-rocks glass, added two dashes of Angostura bitters, and probably about a half teaspoon of water. Muddled this stuff. Added about 2 ounces Wild Turkey 101, Stirred. Added about five small ice cubes. Yum! :drink:

My problem in the past was the misguided idea of muddling fruit along with the sugar and bitters, as mentioned in the article. That was what my recipes told me to do, back in the day. :skep:

Anyway, what a great cocktail!

Tim

brian12069
03-02-2007, 18:10
I have made exactly one Old Fashioned. I used a couple wedges of a clementine in place of the orange slice. I went to heavy on the bitters ruining the drink. I got hooked on Manhattans and never tried making another Old Fashioned. I nead to try again.

If you like a good Manhattan, you'll like an Old Fashioned...at least I do!

ILLfarmboy
03-17-2007, 04:35
Last night the wife and I went to see zodiac. We had some time to kill before the show started so we went over to a restaurant right across from the theater. Sat down at the bar and ordered a couple drinks. I ordered a Makers Mark Old Fashioned. Well, first I asked the bar tender if she knew how to make an Old Fashioned. With confidence she assured me she did. Cool. Then I asked her what bourbons they had. She started naming off every Canadian and American blended whiskey they stock. Oh boy. Anyhow, I watched her make the drink. She put an orange wedge and two cherries in the bottom of an Old fashioned glass added a packet of sugar and muddled the fruit, added ice then the Makers then a splash of dry vermouth. No bitters. Is this a generally accepted non-traditional recipe? It was drinkable, tasty even. But not what I expected. As a side note I have noticed some bars/ bartenders will omit the bitters from a Manhattan. I can drink 'em either way but I prefer a 'drop or two'.

CrispyCritter
03-17-2007, 18:44
I ordered a Makers Mark Old Fashioned. Well, first I asked the bar tender if she knew how to make an Old Fashioned. With confidence she assured me she did. Cool. Then I asked her what bourbons they had. She started naming off every Canadian and American blended whiskey they stock. Oh boy.

:slappin: I think there needs to be a bartender education campaign regarding what is bourbon and what isn't.


Anyhow, I watched her make the drink. She put an orange wedge and two cherries in the bottom of an Old fashioned glass added a packet of sugar and muddled the fruit, added ice then the Makers then a splash of dry vermouth. No bitters. Is this a generally accepted non-traditional recipe? It was drinkable, tasty even. But not what I expected. As a side note I have noticed some bars/ bartenders will omit the bitters from a Manhattan. I can drink 'em either way but I prefer a 'drop or two'.It seems to me that the Old Fashioned is almost as variable as the martini. There are multiple schools of thought as to whether or not the fruit should be muddled, but there should be bitters rather than vermouth. CocktailDB has 16 different Old Fashioned variations, though.

As for Manhattans - it's better with bitters. Of course, different bitters have different flavors. I've found that orange bitters aren't the best in a Manhattan (but are wonderful in a martini). For Manhattans, I'll go with Fee's Old Fashioned, Angostura, or Peychaud's.

TBoner
05-20-2007, 07:52
I've been making Old-Fashioneds quite a bit lately, and I tend to avoid muddling fruit in the bottom of the glass. However, a healthy strip of orange peel muddled with the bitters and sugar (try some demerara or turbinado, BTW: the unrefined taste really picks up the cocktail) is very good, adding orange character without any excess sweetness or dilution of the whiskey. Usually, a piece of orange peel the width of my thumbnail and twice as long will do. I usually use a mix of Angostura and Regan's orange bitters.

Last night, I mixed it up a bit, though.

I muddled a bit of orange peel with three healthy dashes of Angostura bitters. I added a teaspoon or so of homemade turbinado syrup. Nosed the glass. Another dash of Angostura. Then, I added two drops of orange flower water. The aroma was oustanding. Next, I added 2 oz. of a vatted wheater (VSOF and 90-proof Rebel Yell). Stirred well, added three large ice cubes. Then I took a piece of lemon peel, rubbed the rim of the glass with it, squeezed it over the drink, and dropped it in.

The aroma was floral, spicy-sweet and fruity. The flavor was unmatched by any cocktail I've ever made. I think if I made this again with rye or a high-rye bourbon, I'd use less bitters due to the spicier whiskey. The combination of lemon and orange was very nice, and the clove note in the bitters came through loud and clear. The orange flower water lifted the aroma to new heights, and enhanced the flavor without adding sweetness. I need to find a few more cocktails to use it in.

My experimentation with this drink will continue, but not before I make a few more exactly as above.

ILLfarmboy
05-20-2007, 20:21
Inspired by your post T- Boner, I made a doctored -up Old Fashioned tonight. I used 1/4 teaspoon sugar, 1/4 teaspoon water, 4 drops Angostura bitters, 1/4 teaspoon Triple Sec, one cherry and one (thin) orange slice and 2 oz. BT. The result was tasty but, I'll have to make another at a later date. We have been working on a feed mill plant- shutdown since Wednesday, replacing a chain drag/ hoppers etc. I have bean meal, fish meal, corn dust and God only knows what else stuffing up my nose. Sinus problems.:hot: It really messes up the enjoyment of my favorite libation.

TBoner
05-21-2007, 05:28
I know what you mean about the sinus problems. Just ruins tasting things. I like the recipe you posted, though. Did you muddle the fruit or just garnish with it?

ILLfarmboy
05-21-2007, 19:03
...Did you muddle the fruit or just garnish with it?

Muddled? not quite. I slightly crushed the cherry and gave the orange slice a rough twist above the glass before dripping it in. I find if I muddle the fruit the drink is too sweet/fruity but if I don't molest the fruit in any way it is somewhat superfluous.

OscarV
05-22-2007, 14:35
I have had only one Old Fashion and that was at Maker's Mark Lounge in Louisville.
They do use bitters, but no vermouth.
Also a whole sugar cube and a splash of club soda.

oh yeah, bourbon, muddled orange slice, a cherry and ice.

pepcycle
05-31-2007, 07:01
I've successfully used a short cut for those who are too impatient to muddle sugar, water and bitters. I put the sugar, bitters, water in the bottom of the glass and microwave for 10 seconds. It brings out the aromatic nature of the bitters and perfectly dissolves the sugar.
Not sure this is legit for an "old fashioned" so I might have to rename it with a more modern moniker.
I don't muddle my fruit for my cocktail but do for The Patty's. She prefers a sweeter version, whereas I prefer the taste of whisky.

Gillman
05-31-2007, 10:11
A New-Fashioned!

Gary