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Hyperspace
06-13-2007, 13:22
Here is an article about Jack Daniel’s that some may find interesting...


"Drought conditions can be felt all over the country and locally as well. The drought is also impacting Tennessee, with no signs of letting up and it’s hitting businesses right where they make their living.

Jack Daniels water supply is running low and putting the century-plus whiskey business in jeopardy



...this year there is a problem - that water supply is starting to flow less and less. Hamilton said the drought Tennessee is in is taking a toll on Cave Spring.
“Water flow is down substantially. I would say at least one third to half of what we normally see,” Hamilton said.

To the people who make Jack Daniels, all water is not created equal. It takes a special kind to make this whiskey and they say it’s only here in this cave. For that reason they have started conserving as much as they can. Using the water only for the whiskey and nothing else and even finding ways to cut back on the amount used in the process.
What will happen if the spring goes dry?

“If we can’t use what it takes to make Jack Daniels I suspect we won’t make Jack Daniel’s until we get all the ingredients we need,” Hamilton said"


Source (http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/7955482.html)


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TNbourbon
06-13-2007, 22:27
I can confirm that it's dry here in Middle Tennessee -- the grass crunches when you walk on it, and the dry season is about upon us. But, I don't give a damn if Jack Daniel's produces any whiskey this year or not. Sorry -- just not the most important thing regarding the drought, locally.

Sweetmeats
06-14-2007, 09:23
I say bull that they wouldn't use some other water. Their client base wouldn't know the difference.

bobbyc
06-14-2007, 15:21
I don't give a damn if Jack Daniel's produces any whiskey this year or not. Sorry -- just not the most important thing regarding the drought, locally.Tim, I'd like to know what else is at stake, crops come quickly to mind and later there could be significant loss of property in the event of fire.

It's dry here as well.

TNbourbon
06-14-2007, 16:34
Tim, I'd like to know what else is at stake, crops come quickly to mind and later there could be significant loss of property in the event of fire.

It's dry here as well.

Crops are very much in jeopardy around here, a sort of double-whammy after the earlier loss of fruit and vegetable crops to premature warmth followed by late, hard frosts. The winter wheat crop was essentially a bust this spring. In turn, the poor grain crops encourage the thinning of livestock herds, which deprives farmers of potential future assets. Corn, in particular, looks pitiful right now -- still green, but way too small and thin at this point after the late start to the growing season. It needs water, yesterday! And many farmers are knocking down too-thin hayfields because if they don't there's too little time for a good second cutting. Hopes for a late third cutting, not that unusual, are already by the boards by now.
Communities are already asking for voluntary cutbacks in lawn-watering and unnecessary water usage. River levels are already down noticeably (Remember -- Tennessee has no natural lakes, just dam-provided reservoirs; virtually every town's water supply comes from steams and rivers.). Traditionally, it's pretty early for that. April through mid-June is the time we generally get ahead of the game for the following three months, when rain can be sporadic, at best. Instead, we've had almost no rainfall in those months.
It's still early enough a week-long rain could cure all that. But, we're within a week or so of the start of a period during which that would be just as aberrational as the current lack of rain.

CrispyCritter
06-14-2007, 20:58
Maybe they should raise the proof so that they can use less water. :skep:

mier
06-15-2007, 02:29
Maybe they should raise the proof so that they can use less water. :skep:
The best idea i`ve read so far!!!!!:slappin: .Eric.

HighTower
06-15-2007, 02:42
Maybe they should raise the proof so that they can use less water. :skep:
Back to 90 proof. Amen.

ILLfarmboy
06-15-2007, 08:06
Back to 90 proof. Amen.

Would that it were so!

As things stand now, I keep a bottle of single barrel around for when I'm fealing nostalgic and want a taste of the past. I don't much care for Woodford Reserve or Old Forester. So, Brown-Forman dosn't get much of my money. And that's the way I like it!!

Gillman
06-15-2007, 09:05
I've found the SB quite excellent, especially with ice. Somehow, the ice takes the little away I don't like about JD (the "banana" part) and accentuates the good parts.

I can't foresee that B-F would cut production for reasons of water shortage. Process water can be obtained elsewhere, I can't imagine if it was tanked in and adjusted if necessary (chemically), the final result would differ from what we know as JD today. Also, once water is distilled, how much of its mineral qualities remain in the condensate? If we are speaking of water used to cut proof, is in fact local water used for this purpose, untreated, or some type of deionised water?

This problem seems to be addressable and I doubt production would intentionally be reduced for reasons of local water shortage.

Gary

cowdery
06-15-2007, 10:39
The spring's capacity normally varies with the season and what JD takes from it is less than the historic low water mark. I don't know the facts of the moment, but presumably if they are near historic lows in June, they may not have enough water for their needs by August. City water is always an option and they already use that for everything that doesn't actually go into the bottle. I would think that drilling a well would let them use the same water they're using now, even if the spring stops producing at normal levels.

I don't doubt that the reported facts are true, but the "crisis" spin is, I think, mostly just a way to generate some press, perhaps in the hope that people will be motivated to stock up.

Production cut-backs are the least likely solution.

fussychicken
06-15-2007, 18:48
Heard this just today about the Tennessee drought:

"Driest winter in more than a century"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11095767

TNbourbon
06-16-2007, 22:19
Here's a link to the Tullahoma News, which would be the 'local' paper for Jack Daniel's -- Tullahoma is the home of nearby George Dickel:
http://www.tullahomanews.com/news/view_article.asp?idcategory=9&idarticle=5022

I suspect the story is simply a rehash/rewrite of otherwise published stories -- there isn't any new or fresh quotes or info in it -- but it's very likely (since I know the paper's editor) that they at least called and got confirmation from the distillery.
I really is bad here, folks. Livestock auctions are running 12 hours longer than usual because farmers can't feed/water their herds, and thus are selling out. Dry. Very dry.

Barrel_Proof
06-17-2007, 19:05
Is Jack Daniel's Drying Up?

Couldn't happen soon enough, to my taste! No loss, there.

BourbonJoe
06-18-2007, 05:43
Couldn't happen soon enough, to my taste! No loss, there.

Agreed.
Joe :usflag:

nor02lei
06-18-2007, 09:46
Couldn't happen soon enough, to my taste! No loss, there.

Not agreed here. Iím of the opinion that JD is the most underestimated of all whiskey distilleries in USA. However I can agree that it was a hell of a behave to water damage the classy old number seven.

Leif

ILLfarmboy
06-18-2007, 11:47
Yes, the current Old Number Seven suffers from "water damage". :slappin:

I like your phraseology, Leif

Hyperspace
06-18-2007, 16:50
Couldn't happen soon enough, to my taste! No loss, there.


Okay...that's something I don't think is a good thing for America. :rolleyes: Jack Daniel's is an American icon.


I see you like learning Mandarin (profile)…maybe you could move to China!

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smokinjoe
06-18-2007, 17:06
Okay...that's something I don't think is a good thing for America. :rolleyes: Jack Daniel's is an American icon.


I see you like learning Mandarin (profile)Ömaybe you could move to China!

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PSSSST...uh, take a closer look at Cliff's profile...

Cheers!

JOE

Hyperspace
06-18-2007, 17:21
PSSSST...uh, take a closer look at Cliff's profile...

Cheers!

JOE

Okay...so my revised version is ...maybe you should remain in China! :grin:

Anything from China is from multiple levels of censorship

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ILLfarmboy
06-18-2007, 18:12
Okay...so my revised version is ...maybe you should remain in China! :grin:

Anything from China is from multiple levels of censorship

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And I thought I could be abrasive:rolleyes:

TNbourbon
06-18-2007, 18:19
Okay...so my revised version is ...maybe you should remain in China! :grin:

Anything from China is from multiple levels of censorship

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Umm -- you might also want to look at Cliff's SB.com credentials. (P.S. -- we value good manners here.)





Oh...
:grin:

cowdery
06-18-2007, 19:34
I'm with Tim.

TNbourbon
06-18-2007, 22:19
"...Drought conditions can be felt all over the country and locally as well. The drought is also impacting Tennessee, with no signs of letting up and it’s hitting businesses right where they make their living.
"Jack Daniels water supply is running low and putting the century-plus whiskey business in jeopardy..."

Ah, it rains! The forecast is for a fair chance of it continuing through much of tomorrow before returning to hot and sunny. Too little, but welcome.

boone
06-19-2007, 09:20
Dude...If you choose to be insulting and rude, I'll fire at you.

We don't take kindly to blatant attacks, out of the blue. We "tollerate" stupid shit from "newbies" quite often...You crossed the line. I expected to see a "apology" for your "blatant" attack...but instead, I see another version of your "hostility".

Cliff is a fine man. I love him like a brother and will defend him as one of my family! Many, on this board feel the same way...

Shame on you!






Okay...so my revised version is ...maybe you should remain in China! :grin:

Anything from China is from multiple levels of censorship

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Hyperspace
06-19-2007, 11:16
Cliff is a fine man.


I have no reason to think otherwise.
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What I said about him and China was said in a joking manner. It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. I was just poking fun at him thinking he would do the same back.




I understand, because of the nature of forum postings, that words can easily be misread since you can’t see the expressions on a persons face or hear the tone in ones voice.

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melting
06-20-2007, 19:51
This cracks me up. What a joke. I know I can come across as quite abrasive also. This is usually due to the fact that I have a great sense of New England sarcasm that has been bred in to my very soul. Believe me, my girlfriend, who is from Ohio has a heck of a time dealing with it. Half the time I'm goofing off but it can come across the wrong way sometimes, especially when it's the written word with no facial expressions or body language to go by.

At the shop where I work I am constantly joking and fooling around but without the body language it would be quite easy to take things the wrong way. I'm reminded about the post I responded to about someone talking about people excercising their second amendment rights in their back yards in Kentucky or Tennessee. I made fun of it and quickly reasized that by just reading the written word it could quite easily be taken the wrong way.

But, mother of God, this guy was way over the top. It's like he was full of the internet beer muscles or something.

Chris

ThomasH
06-21-2007, 14:46
OK everybody, you can breathe a sigh of relief, JD is not going to run out of water from cave spring or whiskey for that matter. They even sent me a reassuring email about it. I would be much more worried that they run out of charcoal to make Gentlemans Jack. Now that might be a real problem!

Thomas