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ThomasH
07-17-2007, 08:43
I heard today that some more whiskey price increases are coming to Ohio on Aug. 1st. Prime examples: JD black 1L and 1.75L up 1.00, Beams choice 750 up 2.00, Jim Beam black 750 up 1.65, Jim Beam white 1.75L up 3.20. These come on the heels of recent increases for Makers Mark, Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare SB, Dickel barrel select and #12 as well as Wild Turkey. In the case of the Jim Beam 1.75L bottles, there is now only a 7.00 difference between the white and black labels whereas at the beginning of 2007 it was almost 11.00. With the price increase of the Beam black 750, there is now nearly a 6.50 spread between the black and white label, up from only 3.50 a year ago. I will definitely be buying the black label in 1.75's if I ever buy any Beam again. I'm certainly glad I have been accumulating bottle in recent years!

Thomas

melting
07-17-2007, 17:10
Please, no one blame it on the rising cost of corn. Seriously, that's how it goes. Prices rise all the time.

One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that a company has but one obligation. That is to make money for it's shareholders. End of story. Everyone wants to blame Exxon Mobil for the extremely high fuel prices we are dealing with. Well, guess what. Exxon Mobil's job is to make money for it's shareholders. I think they're doing a remarkable job of it.

About 6 months ago I bought 3 bottles of Glenmorangie scotch. Three different finishes. Port wood, Sherry and Maderia. $43.99 per 750 ml. They now cost $51.99 for the same item at the same store. I assume they are still selling quite a bit of it or they would not be enjoying the pricing power they currently have. Every company want pricing power, not many have the luxury.

Chris

TNbourbon
07-17-2007, 17:27
Might also be good to realize that Exxon makes less money as a percentage of income than Wal-Mart and a good number of other well-run companies. Its income (and market valuation) is just a bigger number.
As for bourbon, I really don't complain too much about prices. It's a luxury item. If the price gets higher than I'm willing to pay, I buy something else. My only regret/concern about it is that too much of these increases seem to go into middle men's (distributors, especially) pockets, not the producers'.

ILLfarmboy
07-17-2007, 18:06
Yes, oil company profits are a thin margin. Want to know who makes a killing off high gas prices? State governments! Don't here much about that, do we? gosh I wonder why!

As for most of the price increases going to the 'middle men'; I here you. I wish we didn't have the three tier system?

ThomasH
07-18-2007, 08:42
The thing that struck me as odd about these increases was the Beams choice 750. I was told that this brand was going to be discontinued. For well over a year this brand sold for the same price as the white label but is now back to 2.00 more than the white. Originally it only sold for about 1.00 more. Maybe they won't discontinue it but rather start exporting some of it or something. I'm not worried about the prices either, if it is more than I want to pay, I'll either wait for a sale or buy something else!

Thomas

BourbonJoe
07-18-2007, 14:55
I have often thought that with the popularity bourbon enjoys today, the projected shortage of old bourbons and "the suits", that bourbon prices (especially the old stuff) will continue to rise very quickly, as if to catch up with Scotch prices.
Joe :usflag:

MGades
07-19-2007, 03:56
From a Bourbon-lover's POV, it is an advantage that Bourbon be considered an inferior drink by the rest of the world. I see no need to change the status quo regarding the prices and availability of Bourbons.

Having said that, perhaps the increased price of Rittenhouse Rye BIB over the last 2 years illustrates the efficiency of the market in matching price to demand.

melting
07-19-2007, 16:54
I still think that bourbon prices are pretty reasonable all things considered. I've tried many scotches in the last few years. More out of curiosity than anything else. Just like trying new things. I will admit that I don't think that I've tried the best that they have to offer as I can't really see paying upwards of $60.00 for a bottle of whiskey. Maybe later in life when I can see over the stack of bills.

I saw a thread dated about 5 years ago about prices in different locations and I'd like to maybe see an updated sampling. I've kept it down to just a small sampling of what I'd consider middle of the road pours that I would assume would make up the bulk of purchased on the forum. Feel free to add whatever you'd like.

Please give a location and a price if possible. Not sale prices, just regular every day cost. Also, all bottles are 750 ml.

Here in Massachusetts

Jim Beam Black $16.99
Elijah Craig 12 yr. $19.99
Knob Creek $22.99
Makers Mark $21.99
Wild Turkey 101 $17.99
Van Winkle 12 yr. $42.99

I realize the Van Winkle may not be a middle pour but I'd still like to see the different prices from the different parts of the country. Or prices from other countries. Thanks,

Chris

fricky
07-19-2007, 18:48
Prices in Pennsylvania for the same bourbons are as follows:

Jim Beam Black $19.07
Elijah Craig 12 yr. $28.61
Knob Creek $29.67
Makers Mark $24.37
Wild Turkey 101 $21.19
Van Winkle 12 yr. $34.97

The prices shown include PA sales tax.
Doug

Frodo
07-19-2007, 20:42
Excellent thead Thomas!

From what I understand, the demand for Scotch and Bourbon has shot up - and with it, prices for both. Bourbon is still very affordable IMHO, but I'm not sure what the future will hold here as the world seems to be "discovering" bourbon. In Scotchy land, prices are beginning to rise, and I expect will continue to rise for the next 5-6 yrs.

What I can say about bourbon prices in Ontario is that they continue to be stable without any more selection coming in.

ThomasH
07-19-2007, 21:56
In Ohio the following prices apply:

Jim Beam black 18.90
Elijah Craig 19.00
Knob Creek 29.70
Makers mark 23.80
Wild Turkey 19.80
Van Winkle Lot B N/A

All of these prices include sales tax. The Elijah Craig and Jim Beam black are reularly on sale anywhere from 1.50 to 2.00 cheaper. WT drops somewhat in Nov. and Dec. for the holidays and Makers Mark and Knob Creek are rarily on sale. Makers Mark seems to inch up in price every couple of months

Thomas

T47
07-23-2007, 09:41
These are WA State prices. I think the prices have fluctuated a little up and down, but nothing so dramatic that I have paid attention to it yet.

Jim Beam Black $21.95
EC 12 $19.75
Knob Creek $32.95
Makers $25.95
WT 101 $22.95
VW 12 Currently can't get it...but I think it was $40.00 last time I was able to get it. The 15 was around $45 last time it was here and the 20 is going for $85.15.

SBOmarc
07-23-2007, 09:51
Prices in Pennsylvania for the same bourbons are as follows:

Jim Beam Black $19.07
Elijah Craig 12 yr. $28.61
Knob Creek $29.67
Makers Mark $24.37
Wild Turkey 101 $21.19
Van Winkle 12 yr. $34.97

The prices shown include PA sales tax.
Doug

I agree that all of those EXCEPT the Van Winkle 12. Can't touch that out here for less than $40.

HipFlask
07-25-2007, 15:29
Elmer T Lee jumped $2 in 2 weeks here in Wisconsin. That will teach me to wait until next pay day to restock the bunker. By it going for $26.99

ILLfarmboy
07-25-2007, 16:05
With whiskey, as with any other luxury potable/edible (expensive cuts of meat, fresh seafood etc.) If it goes up in price and I want it I'll economize in other areas to make room in the family budget.

I'd much rather pay more for the same products I now buy than pay the same for watered down or in some cases younger and or less choice versions!

Life is too short to forgo those luxuries I can afford.

ripvanfan
07-25-2007, 18:32
Everyone that isn't, should be thankful that they aren't scotch drinkers. One used to be able to purchase Macallan 18 yr for 40 bucks + tax just 10-11 years ago. The price before tax now runs around 150. I suppose if you can afford it, and have a huge passion for the stuff, the near 400% markup hasn't phased you. As for me, I haven't purchased a bottle of scotch in over 5 years. Here's to hoping bourbon never goes through even 100% markup in 10 years time!

ThomasH
07-25-2007, 19:33
The prices for scotch are supposed to go up at least 10% by year end due to demand. I look for bourbon to follow the same trend as most of the big drinks companies that own scotch brands have bourbon brands as well. A good place to load up on whiskey is the duty free stores. I generally have good luck at the duty free stores going to and from Canada. My wife and her sister like to go to the casinos while I like to go solely to load up on whiskey at the duty free. Many of the Irish brands are also a good deal if you are into that category!

Thomas

OscarV
07-26-2007, 03:55
going to and from Canada.

Thomas

I have not been to Canada since last September.
Since then I think I heard that you now need a passport to cross over.
Is that true?

TNbourbon
07-26-2007, 05:06
I have not been to Canada since last September.
Since then I think I heard that you now need a passport to cross over.
Is that true?

Only if flying. They keep pushing back the date for implementation, because the State Department has a several-months' backlog of passport applications.

blux
07-26-2007, 08:07
Here in Rochester... (All 750ml except JBB which is 1 Ltr)

Jim Beam black 22.99
Elijah Craig 12 yr. 18.99
Knob Creek 28.99
Makers mark 21.99
Wild Turkey 19.99
Van Winkle Lot B N/A

ripvanfan
07-26-2007, 18:23
I wasn't real impressed with the bourbon selection at the duty free shop I was at a month ago. I ended up with a bottle of rum you can't buy in America. As the law stands right now, you must have a passport to travel by car to Canada by January 1st. The custom agent I talked to at the border predicted the law would be done away with beforehand.

Frodo
07-27-2007, 02:59
The prices for scotch are supposed to go up at least 10% by year end due to demand. I look for bourbon to follow the same trend as most of the big drinks companies that own scotch brands have bourbon brands as well.
Thomas

Good point. I think the pricing for Bourbon will rebound as the supply will catch up to demand. You have to wait for 10-15yrs for Malt Scotch whisky to be saleable. Good bourbon takes a significantly shorter time (depending on which distillery that is).

ThomasH
01-03-2008, 22:23
I placed an order with Binnys the othe day and was browsing the website and decided to look at my past order history. My first order was on January 25th of 2005. A.H. Hirsch was on sale for 39.99, Weller 12yr. was 14.99 and Weller Antique was 17.99. Today, A.H. Hirsch if in the stratosphere, Weller 12 is 24.99 and Weller Antique is 18.99. Quite a price rise in 3 years!

Thomas

ggilbertva
01-05-2008, 13:21
I can still find Weller 107 for $15 but have to travel to Montgomery Cnty, MD. to get it.

HighTower
01-05-2008, 13:39
I placed an order with Binnys the othe day and was browsing the website and decided to look at my past order history. My first order was on January 25th of 2005. A.H. Hirsch was on sale for 39.99, Weller 12yr. was 14.99 and Weller Antique was 17.99. Today, A.H. Hirsch if in the stratosphere, Weller 12 is 24.99 and Weller Antique is 18.99. Quite a price rise in 3 years!

Thomas
Weller Antique has gone up $1, and the 12 has gone up $10....that's crazy. Although, in saying that, I would pay more for that stuff Brett selected!

Scott

Virus_Of_Life
01-06-2008, 14:09
Back in California for the weekend I went out to see if WTAS had reached the area and was quite shocked to see some price increases. Pappy20 at a place that used to carry it for $69.99 is now $99.99! :shocked: They said the distributor jacked up prices due to alleged shortage. Sorry BT et al I will not be paying that price for Pappy20. The current release of Handy $79.99, not going to pay that either! Current Stagg $59.99, maybe but doubt I will pay that either - thought it was great at $45 but at $60 not sure. Pappy 15 $69.99 - uh no - especially if I don't know what juice I am getting.

:frown: :crazy: :frown:

TNbourbon
01-06-2008, 16:04
Back in California for the weekend I went out to see if WTAS had reached the area and was quite shocked to see some price increases. Pappy20 at a place that used to carry it for $69.99 is now $99.99! :shocked: They said the distributor jacked up prices due to alleged shortage. Sorry BT et al I will not be paying that price for Pappy20. The current release of Handy $79.99, not going to pay that either! Current Stagg $59.99, maybe but doubt I will pay that either - thought it was great at $45 but at $60 not sure. Pappy 15 $69.99 - uh no - especially if I don't know what juice I am getting.

:frown: :crazy: :frown:

Well, Christian, I've had to pay $99 (or more, after sales tax) around here for some time. I won't rule it out till it's three figures, which won't be long.
Anyway, the ones you note are nearing the end of their lives, anyway, I suspect. How much more 15yo bourbon does BT have that can be bottled as Stagg without a drop in quality? Will we care about Pappy 20 once it's no longer S-W whiskey?
More and more today, I'm glad that even the lower shelves of bourbon/rye are quite respectable, because I think that's where a lot of my product will be coming from soon enough.

Virus_Of_Life
01-07-2008, 00:02
Will we care about Pappy 20 once it's no longer S-W whiskey?
Exactly Tim and hence the reason I will not pay much more than $45-50 for the 15 year old. I love the SW 15, I mean really love it and if I KNEW it was SW would pay upwards of $70. I know Julian wouldn't do it because of the obvious, but if there was some labeling to denote the difference I'd pay the high prices for the SW juice and more reasonable prices for whatever other stuff he picks out.


More and more today, I'm glad that even the lower shelves of bourbon/rye are quite respectable, because I think that's where a lot of my product will be coming from soon enough.
Yep, I was just thinking this recently as well as hoping I can always find the upper shelf regulars such as Blanton's for reasonable prices.

melting
01-12-2008, 13:10
You folks are going to love this one. As I've already stated last week New Hampshire is running a sale on Elijah Craig 18 year old. I bought all of the stock at the store closer to me. 4 bottles for $23.99 each.

This morning I get an email from a large local liquor store here in Mass. Their newsletter has a bottle of EC18 prominently displayed. There's a little caption box next to the picture telling you all about how good it is. then there is the price. Ready. $54.99 per 750 ml.

They must be working with a pretty good markup at that store. I'm pretty confident I won't be hitting their shleves any time in the near future.

Chris

JRomain
01-13-2008, 00:38
GD gas prices! Whenever that goes up, all else follows.

ggilbertva
01-13-2008, 05:38
Back in California for the weekend I went out to see if WTAS had reached the area and was quite shocked to see some price increases. Pappy20 at a place that used to carry it for $69.99 is now $99.99! :shocked: They said the distributor jacked up prices due to alleged shortage. Sorry BT et al I will not be paying that price for Pappy20. The current release of Handy $79.99, not going to pay that either! Current Stagg $59.99, maybe but doubt I will pay that either - thought it was great at $45 but at $60 not sure. Pappy 15 $69.99 - uh no - especially if I don't know what juice I am getting.

:frown: :crazy: :frown:

Those prices you show are typical for my area. In fact, Pappy 20 goes for $110 here in VA. I picked up a bottle of Pap 20 in S.C. last year and paid around $65 for it. The Pappy 15 year I bought online and paid $36. I can't even get the 15 year here in VA. The BTAC go for around $60 a piece. Last Summer I found a store that had some stray Stagg on the shelf. They wanted ~$60 each but the shelf label still advertised $49 each. I pointed that out to the clerk who said the price went up and he didn't have a chance to change the shelf tag. I told him that didn't matter, his advertised price is $49. He relented and gave me 5 bottles for $49 each.

MGades
05-13-2008, 01:57
The good news is that even mainstream media is catching on that Ethanol as a fuel is counterproductive. We'll have to see how it plays out (given all the federal subsidies), but the price of corn should drop now.

And yes, the "highest and best use" of corn is definitely Bourbon.
Let's keep it that way!

cas
05-16-2008, 08:08
I'm lobbying for a Memorial - Labor Day whiskey tax holiday.
Craig

OldJack
05-16-2008, 08:20
Please, no one blame it on the rising cost of corn. Seriously, that's how it goes. Prices rise all the time.

One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that a company has but one obligation. That is to make money for it's shareholders. End of story.

Chris

Sorry, but that is BS. Yes, the shareholders are a company's first responsibility, but not the only one. Corporations are also responsible to society at large- to be good citizens and neighbors. This social darwinian model for business isn't what our free-market was designed for. There was always supposed to be a sense of corporate responsibility just as individuals are also responsible to others.

I know that rant has nothing to do with rising prices of bourbon, but I couldn't let it pass.

heatmiser
05-16-2008, 12:43
Corporations are also responsible to society at large- to be good citizens and neighbors.

Maybe, but nobody is holding them to it...

OldJack
05-16-2008, 13:00
Maybe, but nobody is holding them to it...

True enough- but a lack of accountability does not excuse a lack of responsibility.

I'm a free market guy. I like capitalism. I just want capitalists to cherish, honor, and listen to that inner Jimmeny Cricket.

ILLfarmboy
05-24-2008, 14:54
True enough- but a lack of accountability does not excuse a lack of responsibility.

I'm a free market guy. I like capitalism. I just want capitalists to cherish, honor, and listen to that inner Jimmeny Cricket.


If you are a "free market guy" then I'm a guerilla capitalist.

Legal responsibilities can be enforced. Moral responsibilities; ones that lie are outside those overlapping legal areas, are unenforceable. Primarily because we recognize that to do so would be a violation of the enforceie's property rights, or, if you want to get touchy feely, the right to pursue happiness within the bounds of those property rights as long as he/she doesn't commit fraud or aggress against another persons right to dispose of his property as he sees fit.

If I was king of the world I might decree that henceforth all bourbon, hell, all whiskey destined to be sold as a straight, shall not come off the still at more than 110 proof and go into the barrel at not less than 105 proof. Because, after all, if the producers were listening to their inner Jimmeny Cricket, wouldn't they want to do that without me forcing them?

do you see what I'm getting at?

As for the original subject of this thread; rising whiskey prices, I'll pay. I'll economize in other areas, eat more road kill (some of you probably think I'm joking, I'm not.) etc.

robbyvirus
05-24-2008, 15:24
Sorry, but that is BS. Yes, the shareholders are a company's first responsibility, but not the only one. Corporations are also responsible to society at large- to be good citizens and neighbors. This social darwinian model for business isn't what our free-market was designed for. There was always supposed to be a sense of corporate responsibility just as individuals are also responsible to others.

Yep, and I'm sure all the former Enron executives believed this too.

cigarnv
05-25-2008, 11:47
While it is nice to speak of corporate responsibility and the need to do good at the corporate level few if any of us would invest our $$ in an upstanding company that delivered poor returns to the shareholder. The obligation of a company, IMO, is to maximize return to the shareholders within the confines of the law.... let the shareholders do good in any way they want with their returns.

smokinjoe
06-03-2008, 04:31
Two articles in the Atlanta paper this morning regarding higher whiskey prices, and higher beer prices:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/stories/2008/06/03/whiskey_prices.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/06/02/microbreweries.html.

JOE

Gillman
06-03-2008, 05:23
This should impel people ever more to buy based on inherent quality, not labels. Lagavulin 16 is great - but even many malt devotees might only have that occasionally. Many Scotch blends of excellent quality can be bought at good prices (some were mentioned in one of the articles Joe cited). Glenfiddich 12 and Glenlivet 12 are excellent, well-priced whiskies in the malts category. Some of these are sometimes put on sale, depending on where you live and the alcohol control environment. VOB is still a great buy, so are many of the Heaven Hill labels. Prices are going up, but with careful selection many good buys can be found.

Gary

mozilla
06-03-2008, 07:33
Two articles in the Atlanta paper this morning regarding higher whiskey prices, and higher beer prices:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/stories/2008/06/03/whiskey_prices.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/06/02/microbreweries.html.

JOE

Thanks for the link, Joe. :grin:

ThomasH
08-01-2008, 17:53
I was in the local liquor store today and the change of the month resulted in a change in whiskey prices again. All the versions of Jim Beam went up a 1.00 for the 750 and 2.00 for the 1.75. Blantons went up 2.00 for a grand total of a 4.00 increase in 3 months. CC 12 went up 2.00 a 750, Jameson up 3.00 a 750, MM up 1.00 a 750 as were several other categories of alcohol. Ohio's prices for Jim Beam are approaching prices in other places for bourbon much older than 4yrs. I think JD only raised the price of Gentlemans Jack, which is quite suprising. Usually they are right at the head of the pack when it comes to rising prices!

Thomas

HipFlask
08-12-2008, 14:59
Well Rittenhouse Rye BIB was $12.99 when the new shipment came in the price jumped up to $17.99. The 80 proof is still $12.99. I am not quite sure what prompted an almost 50% increase but is sure does not seem quite right. Is that price in the ball park of what everybody else is paying?

Attila
08-13-2008, 21:55
Bourbon is very inexpensive. Esp. if you consider the punch you get per dollar. Bourbon is about 6x as strong as wine. If your daily bottle of wine is about $15, then your daily bottle of bourbon should cost $90. $90 buys a very, very nice bottle of bourbon, but $15 doesnt buy very nice wine.

tritioch
08-15-2008, 10:21
The word in upstate NY from the BT folks is that a major price increase is coming this fall. Couldn't get any details as to how big, but it sounds like a cross-the-board hike. Fair enough for Eagle, Weller, Elmer, etc. which have been basically the same price for the last 4-5yrs, but on the top end stuff? PvW has gone up every other month for the last year... and another major price hike?

fishnbowljoe
08-15-2008, 16:01
Noticed things here in northern Illinois creeping up a bit. Only a buck or two though, and not on everything. You can still find some really good prices when stuff goes "on sale". Tritioch, one place I go has Pappy 20, and it's up to $123.00 a bottle. Joe

texascarl
08-15-2008, 20:37
Sounds like I'd better go buy a few more 'everyday' bottles. I've been buying gin, scotch and vodka lately. Which means the whusk index is down, the white likker index is still rising. Time to review our investment stragedy. I grabbed some Rare Breed and RR on sale last month. This week Evan Williams Black is on sale here, $15.99/1.75. Good for the vatted 'mingle' I whip up once or twice a year.
To paraphrase the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers "Bourbon will get you thru times of no money better than money will get you thru times of no bourbon."

tritioch
08-16-2008, 08:19
Noticed things here in northern Illinois creeping up a bit. Only a buck or two though, and not on everything. You can still find some really good prices when stuff goes "on sale". Tritioch, one place I go has Pappy 20, and it's up to $123.00 a bottle. Joe

$123 per bottle :bigeyes: ?!? Thankfully it is still under $90 around here.

jburlowski
08-17-2008, 08:48
It's called inflation folks, and we'd all better get used to it.

Special Reserve
08-17-2008, 15:42
In MI, PVW15 is now $64.95 plus 6% sales tax. Good time I purchased the last one I saw about two months ago.

George
07-31-2009, 06:43
Wasn't sure where to post this. Looks like they want raise alcohol taxes by 10% here in Connecticut. Add that to the fact we can't buy online, and it's not a pretty picture. :smiley_acbt:

tommyboy38
07-31-2009, 09:08
Our liquor taxes are going up on Sept 1 here in Illinois so I think I plan on a few last big purchases and then nothing but dusties after that.

cowdery
08-02-2009, 14:02
Even without the tax increase, one of my favorites has taken a shocking 46% price increase. It is my now-not-quite-so-beloved Rittenhouse Rye BIB. Last fall I bought it for $12.99. Yesterday, I refused to buy it (http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-much-do-i-love-rittenhouse-rye-bib.html) for $18.99. It's probably worth $18.99 but at that price it's no longer a value.

MJL
08-03-2009, 07:05
Chuck,

I read your blog about the price rise and completly agree with you. I just don't have the cash to spend on games like this anymore. Personally I am miffed about massive price increases on booze that has been sitting in a rikhouse since John Kerry was a presidential contender. I would understand small price rises but these huge increases....especially in a time where many find it hard to make the simple ends meet....is a very stupid move.

Josh
08-03-2009, 07:17
Even without the tax increase, one of my favorites has taken a shocking 46% price increase. It is my now-not-quite-so-beloved Rittenhouse Rye BIB. Last fall I bought it for $12.99. Yesterday, I refused to buy it (http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-much-do-i-love-rittenhouse-rye-bib.html) for $18.99. It's probably worth $18.99 but at that price it's no longer a value.


Chuck,

I read your blog about the price rise and completly agree with you. I just don't have the cash to spend on games like this anymore. Personally I am miffed about massive price increases on booze that has been sitting in a rikhouse since John Kerry was a presidential contender. I would understand small price rises but these huge increases....especially in a time where many find it hard to make the simple ends meet....is a very stupid move.

I wonder how much of it is the result of limited supply that many distillers are now facing.

MJL
08-04-2009, 11:33
Machts nichts! We're in a depressionary cycle; wages are going down, prices on many things are going down, fuel prices have been stabalized for more than 6 months now. The booze was made at least 4-10 years ago. next to the administrative costs, the bottle and transport to market there is not much more to add to the costs of the booze. I see this as profiting pure and simple. Personally, I am with Chuck; as a consumer I will pay a reasonable price including profit but when the price of the booze jumps 20%, 30%, 40% or more than I bow out for other options.

plaid_emu
08-04-2009, 12:17
Personally, I am with Chuck; as a consumer I will pay a reasonable price including profit but when the price of the booze jumps 20%, 30%, 40% or more than I bow out for other options.

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OscarV
08-04-2009, 12:22
http://maryt.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/marijuana.jpg

Cool it Man, you got 58 minutes till 4:20.

MJL
08-04-2009, 14:23
I drink Bourbon more for the taste than the effect but I recognize many drink more for the effect. To that end I see some serious public discussions going on regarding leagalizing marijuana these days. I wonder if the competition will act to moderate prices if that happens.

cowdery
08-04-2009, 16:09
I always liked Jon Stewart's line about legalizing marijuana: "Why do you need marijuana to be legal? Are you too lazy to walk to the park?"