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DeWanzo
05-04-2002, 18:53
Opened the Blantons, tonight, so smooth, so good, my good friend tyreem showed up with a bottle of Makers Mark to add to the mix, then my crown royal buddy showed and said the Blantons was almost as smooth as crown and asked for some 7-up to add to the Blantons. ??????? Sometimes I just don't no what the hell is going on? can you folks tell me?!!
This is the best Bourbon myself or Tyreem could ever imagine.
We are in sippen' heaven and still havin fun. Thanks for the GREAT ADVICE!!! it was worth every penny.

signed
DeWanzo

MurphyDawg
05-04-2002, 20:44
Some people just don't get it. And some people, as much as they refuse to admit it, really just dont like the taste of Whiskey. It's okay, just don't waste the good stuff on them. Get a bottle of something like Old Forrester or Evan Williams black for the folks that want mixed drinks so you dont break the bank, they taste just as well that way (though I must admit I like both neat though), and save the $$$$ (ching-chingy) stuff for the folks who want just whiskey (or at the most just water or ice with it). More for you that way http://www.straightbourbon.com/images/icons/smile.gif.


Tom (Blanton's RAWKS!!) C

**DONOTDELETE**
05-05-2002, 08:07
Most people do use mixers when they drink any kind of liquor. It takes a true whiskey fan to drink it straight. Anyone that is used to drinking a very bland blended whiskey is going to think that bourbon is very strong tasting, and they would be right! Bourbon in general and Blanton's in particular has a very powerful even forceful persona. It does not surprize me that your rc friend would want to tone it down a bit. My wife always mixes.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

ratcheer
05-05-2002, 13:47
Did you kick his ass out of the house and all the way down the driveway? That's what I would have done. God Almighty!

Tim

DeWanzo
05-05-2002, 17:27
No I couldn't bring myself to kick him out, he is really a good friend, just misguided, being a crown royal drinker and all. I have decided that I cannot change the world and he can mix and drink whatever he likes. It must be the Blantons that is making me so mellow. I thank all you guys for recommending all the great Bourbons, I have never drank anything like it. My wife Weezy, told me not to get used to it, so its back to Evan Black until I get rich again.
thanks again
signed
DeWanzo

MurphyDawg
05-05-2002, 18:50
I know that I was knocked on my ass with the taste of the first Bourbon I tried (the Only whiskeys I had before bourbon were Crown Royal & Bushmills, both quite mellow by comparison) but you get hooked to the flavor and I find myself searching for even bigger tastes which brings a question, Do all the little processes that wild turkey does (barrel at such a low proof and use Really charred barrels) contirbute to a really flavorful whiskey like you would think?? Either Russell's Reserve or Rare Breed is next on my list to get.




Rock On,
TomC

bobbyc
05-05-2002, 20:06
The low barrell proof is a big factor, Makers Mark does it also . Beam and Wild Turkey are supposed to be the only ones using a number 4 char,( the heaviest) but Beam proofs as high as the Goverment will allow. I have a bottle of Knob Creek open now and while it's a good drink I think I'd just as soon pay 14.95 for WT on sale at Rite Aid. I saw KC for 19.99at Liquor Barn and to tell the truth I figured that's about all it's worth. The Blanton,s is a fine drink. I had a relative ask for ginger ale to go with Woodford once and I was offended. That's why they make cheap whiskey. If anyone wants to pay $40. for a fifth and .99 for a 2 liter that's their business , I can't extend that kind of hospitality.

Bobby Cox

**DONOTDELETE**
05-05-2002, 20:31
Yes Tom every little thing counts when it comes to bourbon. Wild Turkey uses a recipe that is high in rye. Their jug yeast is also a big factor. Both the column still and doubler are all copper. The heavy #4 char in the barrels along with country 'iron-clad' rickhouses and time are also major factors. Jimmiy Russell himself is a major factor. Add 'em all up and you get Wild Turkey.

I happen to like Russell's Reserve better than Rare Breed as I think its taste comes closest to Kentucky Spirit. Russell's Reserve is also less expensive, but in no way is it 'cheap'.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

bobbyc
05-06-2002, 07:52
Wild Turkey is a heck of a whiskey mill. What impresses me is how good their everyday run is . Open a bottle of 101 and prepare to be impressed. There's nothing about small batch or single barrell there and it can hold it's own against them all. I think someone ( it may be more than one person) at Wild Turkey wants to make a great whiskey, and damned if they don't!

Bobby Cox

**DONOTDELETE**
05-06-2002, 09:00
Yessiree Bobby that Wild Turkey is good stuff. Back before the 'small batch' and single barrel bottlings and also when Wild Turkey came only one way at eight years of age and 101 proof it was my favorite bourbon.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

cowdery
05-06-2002, 13:11
I think the key to Wild Turkey is that it was a brand before it was a distillery. And it was always premium priced. Back when there were lots of distilleries in Kentucky, Austin Nichols shopped around. They didn't own a distillery, they bought whiskey that suited their specifications. I think it was in the early 70s, after so many distilleries had closed, that they finally bought Boulevard, which is the distillery they still own. Boulevard had long been one of their main suppliers.

The point is that people who owned a distillery were tempted to make as much as they could and sell it anyway they could, they weren't necessarily concentrating on making one brand and making it as good as possible. Also, because Wild Turkey had the courage to hold to its premium pricing when bourbon sales started to decline, they never had to cheapen the product. Many other brands (Old Grand-Dad jumps to mind) panicked and started cutting their price, then their whiskey, which just caused their sales to collapse even faster.

Even today, with WT owning a distillery, they don't sell bulk whiskey or make private label or bargain brands. They make Wild Turkey and that's it. The worst thing they make is their brown label, which I think is 84 proof (that neighborhood). Everything else is great.

Good for Wild Turkey. They've done it right.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

MurphyDawg
05-06-2002, 17:05
it seems to me you in it to win if you put QUALITY PRODUCT as the #1 priority. hey by the way is the WT distillery close to bardstown. would I be able to get to it during festival time??


all this praise makes me wanna try a bottling even more


hmmm what holiday can i invent to buy a bottle next. . . . . .


Tom (gonna go Turkey huntin') C

bobbyc
05-06-2002, 17:59
It's in Anderson county next to Nelson county I don't know how far it is from Bardstown but I would guess not more than 20 miles . Probably as close as Makers Mark and a little further than Jim Beam. As you go toward Lawenceburg you are heading also toward Versailes and Frankfort. ( Labrot & Graham and Buffalo Trace) . You get to Bardstown and you are in the heart of Bourbon Country.

Bobby Cox

cowdery
05-07-2002, 08:53
I ran over there last year during the festival. It isn't far. It's closer than Versailles/Frankfort.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

ratcheer
05-07-2002, 16:51
Here in Alabama ABC stores, there is an 80-proof Wild Turkey. I have never tried it.

Tim

ratcheer
05-07-2002, 16:57
While I will vote for Rare Breed.

There is a strange flavor in Russell's Reserve that I have tasted before, but I just can't put my finger on it. I don't think it was in a bourbon, though. It is driving me nuts trying to remember what it reminds me of.

Everyone here probably knows that Rare Breed is my very favorite. I wanted to like the RR better (because its a little less expensive), but the RB still tops my list.

Tim

ratcheer
05-07-2002, 17:00
Yes, yes!

While I still love my Elijah Craig 12-yr and Old Forester 100, I am very close to declaring WT 101 as my everyday pour. It has a wonderful flavor and body. It always satisfies me.

Tim

Giobo
05-08-2002, 06:01
My only complaint with Wild Turkey is thier deceptive marketing. When they changed their 8 year old which for many years was their signature bottling to "unknown years" they kept a large #8 in the middle of thier label, implying that it was the same age. I thought they were one of the classiest bourbons on the market until they pulled that stunt. To this day WT does not indicate the age of their bourbon on their label. In my opinion, they have tarnished their image by such a cheap marketing ploy.

cowdery
05-08-2002, 08:25
I have had it in bars when nothing better was available. The 80 proof WT is 80 proof WT. Nuff said.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

vasshopper
05-08-2002, 13:10
Rare Breed is the best of the W-T line and at $20 plus tax it doesn't get any better than that, except of course for the old STITZEL-WELLER high-end bourbons. LIFE is GOOD!! ------Den Johnson

ratcheer
05-08-2002, 17:56
Agreed. But, I sure wish I could get it for $20. In Alabama ABC, it is $31 plus sales tax.

bobbyc
05-08-2002, 19:12
No Joke! I can't remember if it's 28 or 34 in Ky . I did find the little 50ml bottles of RB for .30 cents less than the WT101. I got all that were on the shelf . 50s aren't the best way to buy it but the larger bottle Rare Breed is almost 2 times as much as WT101 ,I figured some one goofed.

Bobby Cox

MurphyDawg
05-08-2002, 19:59
damn, $20. . . they want $32 here


I guess life IS good there http://www.straightbourbon.com/images/icons/wink.gif

TomC

**DONOTDELETE**
05-09-2002, 06:15
That's what Rare Breed costs here -> $32. Denny always seems to get the best deals. What's your secret Den?

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

ratcheer
05-09-2002, 16:44
Well, one good deal I have been getting at the ABC is WT101 750 ml at regular price with a 50 ml of RB hanging on the neck for free. I figure that is worth about $2, maybe a little more.

Tim

bobbyc
05-09-2002, 17:44
Thats about right, I don't know what happened they were selling regular WT101in 50ml for over 2 bucks and the RB for less so I grabbed them.

Bobby Cox

vasshopper
05-09-2002, 18:23
Well Linnie i'll tell you the secret! ----after doing this for a # of yrs and talking to various liquor store owners you just get a knack over the phone about the history of the store and possibly older bottlings that they may have. actually its just perserverance and the belief that the older bottlings are much better than the newer stuff . the stuff from the 60s and the 70s are so much better, but that is just my opinion. i have acumulated quite a bit of what i consider the best of the various bottlings of the best and oldest distilleries. don't get me wrong about the newer bottlings because they're are some very fine BOURBONS being made today. there is 1 more case of rare breed for 20$ a bottle plus tax and its always a pleasure to share a fine bottle of good BOURBON with someone that appreciates the finer stuff . wish you all lived closer to me to share in fine bottlings of good bourbon. learned alot from you LINN and hope to share a bottle with you and other fine people on this forum. life is good--den

ratcheer
05-23-2002, 18:18
Well, after that last note I feel a need to report back. I have sampled my RR several times since I wrote that, and whatever was initially bothering me is no longer noticed. This is some DAMN GOOD bourbon.

Heh, heh, I probably need to do a serious, side-by-side comparison with Rare Breed to decide which one is better.

Tim

**DONOTDELETE**
05-23-2002, 20:04
Tim try this blind taste test. Have your wife pour a shot (so only she knows which is which) of Kentucky Spirit; Russell's Reserve, and Rare Breed (you'll have to cut this one a bit to lower it to something close to 101 proof). Then just decide which one you like the best. No need to try to guess which is which. Then come back and tell us the results. With a line up like that no matter which one you choose you just can't loose!

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

vasshopper
05-24-2002, 14:57
please don't cut the rare breed. just drink it like it is at room temperature with lots of good water. sorry, but thats just my opinion. life is good-den

**DONOTDELETE**
05-24-2002, 15:03
Ya hafto den, or you'll know right away what it is. fo'shezzy!

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.