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Megawatt
10-30-2007, 15:29
This bourbon has just arrived in Ontario, and I'm wondering how it compares to the other premium brands available here, namely Knob Creek, Woodford, and Maker's Mark? It is $10 cheaper than these brands around here...

jburlowski
10-30-2007, 15:30
I like (but I may be in the minority here). Heavy rye notes.

Gillman
10-30-2007, 15:35
I just recommended it on your other thread before even seeing this one.

It is a bourbon that (I find) does vary. Some bottles are very soft and spicy with great balance. Others are kind of woody and monochrome.

The one I bought at LCBO lately was middling, but again, every bottle is liable to be somewhat different and I'd try it.

Look for the signature "cinnamon red hots" nose and taste.

Gary

cowdery
10-30-2007, 17:13
If Bulleit is priced that much below Woodford, Knob and Maker's, snap it up, that's a great deal for a very good whiskey. Around here those four would be pretty close in price, with Maker's probably the cheapest since it's usually on deal somewhere. They're all in the same market segment, shooting for essentially the same consumers.

I like Bulleit a lot but it is not for everyone, as its mash bill is about 1/3 rye, the highest among all bourbons, even more than Old Grand-Dad. But since it's made by Four Roses, it is very well balanced. It's also not a "me too" taste. There's nothing else quite like it, so if you like variety, you'll get some with Bulleit in your portfolio.

I agree with Gary about cinnamon red hots. If that's not your taste in candy, you probably won't like it in a bourbon either.

One industry insider told me recently that he doesn't think Bulleit is "making it," as in not meeting the targets Diageo has set for it, so buy more so we can keep this excelllent product on the market.

Megawatt
10-31-2007, 05:03
Thanks for the replies. I wonder if the $35 price tag is an introductory sale price or what. In Ontario, Maker's is $44, Woodford is $45 and Knob Creek is $46 (though I got my bottle at $4 off). If Bulleit is a true premium brand, I'll have to pick some up...

smokinjoe
10-31-2007, 06:29
I picked up a bottle of this a month or so ago. I keep it in the beer fridge, and am finding it to be very enjoyable. The coolness from the fridge is a nice counterbalance to the rye spiciness. I don't know if this method is the reason why, but I like this bottle much better than the one I had a few years ago.

Cheers!

JOE

notyetasmokejumper
10-31-2007, 13:09
I like it. It is probably my second favorite bourbon that I have poured in the last 12 months, (Behind Knob Creek)...The spiciness works for me and of the three bottles I have poured from I haven't noticed that much of a difference between them. A good bourbon at the price point.

ratcheer
10-31-2007, 14:51
I had one bottle. It was pretty much the worst "good" bourbon I have ever tasted. Way too sweet and one-dimensional. It was so bad I doubt I would take a bottle if someone offered to give it to me.

Tim

Gillman
10-31-2007, 15:02
Shows how taste (and sometimes the bottles) can vary. I am sipping some now with a dash of soft water added.

I find it sweetish (but not sweet), with a good spice underpinning (cinammon red hots), with some firmness from the rye and a wood backing.

It is not of course a 9-12 year old whiskey, so its complexity is relative but I like it a lot only again, for me each bottle is somewhat different..

Gary

Sycamore Tree
10-31-2007, 15:37
I shared a bottle with girlfriend and I found it to be good to very good with unique tasting notes. It does have a good Rye taste to it but it is a tad too sweet. I do prefer it over Knob and Makers for sure.

polyamnesia
10-31-2007, 17:19
just bought a bottle tonight...and tried it neat and with a micro splash (i.e., mega drop) of water.

not catching the sweetness.
the spiciness...and yes, that "cinnamon/red hots" sense is there...nice for being a bantam weight 90 proof!

ratcheer, you may have really gotten a bad bottle!

this isn't overly complex, but it's a "frontier" whiskey...i would say, for the 1800s, it would be high end!

the water did open it up, slightly sweeten it...but nothing like Ridgemont Reserve with water...THAT's sweet. nearly the same proof, i believe.

Pharaoh
11-01-2007, 11:49
As someone else already stated, my personal experience has found Bulleit to vary, although I've yet to taste any that I'd call "too sweet".

One bottle I didn't care for displayed quite a lot of youth, but my taste seems to gravitate more towards mid to well matured American whiskey (generalization for sure).

But after the disappointing bottle, I've had samples from a couple of other bottles that have been quite different with a bit more refinement and a lot of the sharpness filed down.

mrt
11-01-2007, 12:30
I like Bulleit. Sweet and mellow, IMO. I agree that it shoud be supported by making purchases. Maybe not many people are aware of it, yet. It's unique bottle design is also a plus.

ratcheer
11-01-2007, 16:02
I like Bulleit. Sweet and mellow, IMO. I agree that it shoud be supported by making purchases. Maybe not many people are aware of it, yet. It's unique bottle design is also a plus.

I loved the bottle.

Tim

TBoner
11-01-2007, 17:56
Okay, Chuck, you've sold me. I've had a few minis here and there of this, and I liked them, but my $20 always seems to go for something else. Tomorrow, Bulleit it is. I love high-rye bourbons, and I am all for keeping as much variety in the market as possible.

JamesH007
11-01-2007, 21:55
I found Bulleit a bit on the rough side, although I do have a preference for high wheat mash bills. Dont recall too much else other than I have not goten a bottle since. It has been a few years, maybe I should give it another try ?

arsbadmojo
11-02-2007, 19:49
I love the packaging, but didn't care for the whiskey. I like rye-heavy bourbons too, so that wasn't it. Great for mixing though. The bottle and label are just too cool!

BourbonJoe
11-03-2007, 05:46
Tried Bulleit again last night at the Philly Whiskeyfest. It's the same perception as last time. I'm not crazy about this whiskey.
Joe :usflag:

Dr. François
01-08-2008, 21:11
My favorite Bulleit cocktail:

1 DVD boxed-set of HBO's Deadwood.
1 pair old denim jeans, worn near campfire.
1 glass
1 bottle Bulleit bourbon

Put on jeans. Play DVD. Drink whiskey. Repeat.

felthove
01-09-2008, 06:25
I had read a lot of tasting notes on the web commenting that this boubon was somewhat harsh but that its high rye content made it well suited for Manhattans. Therefore, I bought it and used it as such a few times. After trying it neat twice I have to say I sort of regret "wasting" on mixed drinks given that I have some other low cost bourbons and ryes that fit that bill. I've rather enjoyed it neat and find it far from harsh. Not tremendously complex by any means but solid IMHO.

Martian
01-13-2008, 16:00
I also found it rather rough, and I like rye bourbons. Not to my liking with better and cheaper brands out there.

Megawatt
01-14-2008, 05:04
How does it compare to Knob Creek and Woodford Reserve? Which is it more similar to? These are the only other premium brands available in my part of the world...

cowdery
01-14-2008, 17:11
Not very similar to either, really. All are good, each is different.

sku
01-14-2008, 20:53
My favorite Bulleit cocktail:

1 DVD boxed-set of HBO's Deadwood.
1 pair old denim jeans, worn near campfire.
1 glass
1 bottle Bulleit bourbon

Put on jeans. Play DVD. Drink whiskey. Repeat.

Bulleit actually makes an ahistorical cameo in Deadwood, as you may know. In the third season, when they have the theatrical show, they show people passing around Bulleit (which, of course, wouldn't have been available for another 120 years or so, but hey, it's TV).

Megawatt
01-20-2008, 13:47
Finally got around to picking up a bottle of this whiskey, and I'm working on my first drink right now. Kind of spicy like Knob Creek, but with a creamy sweetness that I couldn't quite place, but I can now identify as rye. Very nice stuff! A splash of water accentuates the creaminess of it. Definitely not as deep or complex as Knob Creek, and easier on the palette than Woodford Reserve, but for the price I don't mind it at all.

spun_cookie
01-20-2008, 14:53
If you are drinking it, I recommend you stick with it. When I first got it, I had just had some Weller... it made the Bulleit seem very poor....

If I start with it and stay with it for the evening.... not bad, but here in AZ, I am better off with the Knob at the same price... though I lean towards the wheatier bourbons...

nydistiller
01-21-2008, 14:59
:rolleyes: I have not had it yet, one reason is that it is essentially from what I read, four roses. I tried four roses in 2001 on a rip to Bardstown,the yellow label, and found it hard to drink. It was too cloying and I too like high rye mashbill bourbons as well as rye. I also find it very expensive for me as my usual pour is Ten High, A very good bourbon for the price.

TNbourbon
01-21-2008, 15:08
I find I almost always mix Bulliet. It's pretty good with ginger ale.
There's a reason Four Roses doesn't bottle it under its own name, I think.
(If you wonder why I buy any, well -- I bought two 12-mini trays @ 99 cents per bottle, minus my 15% employee discount, last fall when it was on special at the store in which I work. I may not like the stuff much, but I'm NOT STUPID:lol: ... Still, even at c. $13 per 750ml @ 90 proof, I might be better off with basic Ezra Brooks:skep: ...)

nydistiller
01-21-2008, 15:37
Some people must like it, if I am not mistaken four roses does bottle under it's own name, but it may be a reason as to why most of it goes to japan.

Gillman
01-21-2008, 15:50
This is one of the few areas where I and my esteemed colleague Tim disagree: I think it is superb - when at its best.

Sometimes its taste seems dominated by a kind of dull wood - then it is just ordinary. At other times, the wood informs while allowing a spicy cinnamon "red hots" note its full say. Then it is a fine, rather individualist example of a rye-recipe bourbon, IMO.

Gary

TNbourbon
01-21-2008, 15:59
Some people must like it, if I am not mistaken four roses does bottle under it's own name, but it may be a reason as to why most of it goes to japan.

Four Roses has 10 different mash bills -- 2 yeasts times 5 grain bills. The Four Roses that makes up the single-barrel, the small batch, and the standard 'yellow label', all are different combinations (or not, in the case of the single-barrel) of whiskeys. So, too, is Bulliet. I like the ones labeled as "Four Roses". I don't care for the configuration called "Bulliet".
Re Gary: it's certainly possible -- because my experience with Bulliet is not very positive and, thus, limited -- that I haven't found anything but that which you call "just ordinary". Of course, palates differ, too, and I allow for the fact that we just like different things occasionally, in spite of the fact we also often like the same things.

Gillman
01-21-2008, 16:10
Tim, if I come across a particularly good sample, I'll save it for you to taste at Sampler next. Ontario has Bulleit in stock currently, so maybe I'll find a particularly good one soon.

I will try to give you something as good (in its way) as the sample of barrel strength, 21 year old Van Winkle bourbon you kindly provided to me at the party. It was absolutely superb: Doug got a taste too, and agreed. I marvelled at the charcoal specks floating in the bourbon, I've had unfiltered bourbons before but do not recall ever seeing such palpable evidence of it!

Gary

TNbourbon
01-21-2008, 17:25
...I will try to give you something as good (in its way) as the sample of barrel strength, 21 year old Van Winkle bourbon you kindly provided to me at the party. It was absolutely superb: Doug got a taste too, and agreed. I marvelled at the charcoal specks floating in the bourbon, I've had unfiltered bourbons before but do not recall ever seeing such palpable evidence of it!

Gary
Good to know, Gary (and Doug) -- I consider that barrel sample as good a bourbon as I've consumed, including similar samples from Warehouse Z (Ridgemont Reserve) and the uncut Rittenhouse single-barrel rye. I applaud Julian's dedication to Pappy's "...But always fine bourbon" credo.

Megawatt
01-21-2008, 17:57
Bulleit is one of just five better-than-average bourbons available in my area, the others being Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, Maker's Mark and Blanton's Special Reserve, all of which are at least $10 more than Bulleit. Having never had the opportunity to try the likes of Elijah Craig, Buffalo Trace, George T. Stagg, etc., maybe I simply have no concept of what the rest of you folks call "good bourbon". I guess that's why I'm more of a Scotch drinker now.

Taggerung
01-30-2008, 10:07
Ok, complete newbie question here...is "Bulleit" pronouced the same as "bullet"?

Thanks for your patience,

Tim

ILLfarmboy
01-30-2008, 10:23
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7493&highlight=pronounce

cowdery
01-30-2008, 14:14
Ok, complete newbie question here...is "Bulleit" pronouced the same as "bullet"?

Thanks for your patience,

Tim

Yes. That's part of the appeal, I think.

bigtoys
01-30-2008, 15:05
conjures up the Wild West