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fussychicken
11-17-2007, 08:01
Ok, so we have posts for your top five, your favorite from a particular distiller, etc... What I want to know is, if you could pick one and only one whiskey as your very favorite, what would it be?

For example, we all know that Chuck really really likes Very Very Old Fitzgerald. And for some only Wild Turkey will do. I myself had a tough time deciding between PWV15 and VWFRR, but would have to say that after sampling about 30 different American Whiskeys so far, that it is actually a rye that takes the cake: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye is my #1.

So lets here it, what is your #1?

jimibourbonhammered
11-17-2007, 08:56
This could only serve to drive the price of my favorite into the stratosphere, so I will abstain and quietly stock up before word gets out;)

nor02lei
11-17-2007, 08:56
Tuff question indeed! I would say it is a tigh between 3 brands for me: Old st Nick winter rye lot DD18, Willet 22 first edition and WLW 2006.

Leif

LarryG
11-17-2007, 09:46
Hmmm. My sample is even smaller than that of the OP: fewer than a dozen bourbons, four ryes, and two Tennessee whiskeys. And virtually all of these were the familiar, available-anywhere brands (one possible exception: Michter's rye).

With that qualification, I'd say it'd be a toss-up between Elijah Craig 12 and WT Rare Breed. But since you specified "one and only one," I'll go with the WTRB, if only because it costs more, and because I'm told the EC12 can be inconsistent and I'm still on my first bottle.

Larry

NickAtMartinis
11-17-2007, 09:56
Tough call, but I would probably go with WTT. Keep in mind, I've only had one bottle and probably will never find another so I'm basing it off a couple week's worth of sipping the Trib.

Stu
11-17-2007, 09:58
Favorite American whiskey? I'd have to say Stanahans. Favorite American whiskey other than a pure barley single malt? PVW 23 and FR 40th commemorative would have to vie for first place with EC 18 at a close third.

Stu

Chaz7
11-17-2007, 10:48
Pappy Van Winkle 20 y.o.. I would for practical, and affordable reasons, accept Old Rip Van Winkle 10 y.o.

jburlowski
11-17-2007, 11:08
Mine would be 2006 WLW

polyamnesia
11-17-2007, 11:35
at this point in my tongue and nose and throat team career...and i admit it changes...i would have to say the WILD TURKEY RUSSELL'S RESERVE 101 which i just got and is just going down too quickly!

i like lower and higher proof whiskies...but 101 is a nice balance of burn/pepperiness and such an enjoyable nose. the finish simply is perfection! and yep, this beats the Stagg 07 and the Eagle Rare SB 10! but it's still like comparing charred raisins to charred cranberries...:rolleyes:


i'm constantly impressed with the differences i've experienced with different brands/proofs...and of course, time of day, mood, season, etc are contributing factors i have to consider.

i simply like the solidity of the WT line, but this one is the tops for me.

and to think, i have still yet to try Rare Breed!

i must admit, too, that my palate had a nice jolt when i first had the Michter's Unfiltered last year. that opened some horizons and is still a mellow, tasty favorite

mgilbertva
11-17-2007, 11:40
It's a tough call, but my fav is probably Willet 22 yo rye, first release.

bigtoys
11-17-2007, 14:20
Another vote for Pappy van Winkle 20 yr old.

Gotta pick just ONE, remember.

bluesbassdad
11-17-2007, 14:34
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 y/o.

That was easy. Picking the second place finisher would be hard.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

JRomain
11-17-2007, 16:45
WT Russell's Reserve 101

ratcheer
11-17-2007, 18:00
I will say, with some uncertainty as this is entirely subjective, 2002 Old Forester Birthday Bourbon.

Tim

FlashPuppy
11-17-2007, 18:03
I am going to go with my "Holy Grail" the wonderful Old Rip Van Winkle 15/107.

drrich1965
11-17-2007, 19:32
Old Potrero Single Malt Whiskey Essay 7-RW-ARM-6 100% Rye uncharred oak barrels(61%, OB, December 31st, 1997- July 14th, 2000).


I just found this one stunning. Note: I am new to bourbon, and have yet to try Pappy 15 or some of the otherk favorites of folks here. This Old Potrero just peat out GS Fall 05 for me..just..

TNbourbon
11-17-2007, 20:17
W.L. Weller Special Reserve 8yo Bottled in Bond, distilled in 1940 and bottled in 1948:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4427&highlight=Weller
Strange thing is, I wasn't really wowed by it upon opening (but we were tasting many whiskeys at the time). Unsurprisingly, Gary Gillman noted its quality immediately.
But the remains of that bottle, when tasted alone and over a period of time, were such that I'll always search for a comparable flavor.
Adding to the enjoyment, Julian and Preston got to savor the last couple of pours of their Van Winkle family's heritage in that bottle.

ILLfarmboy
11-17-2007, 20:35
WT 12 split label

CrispyCritter
11-17-2007, 21:24
*agonizes a bit*

I'd have to say VWFRR, but there are so many other good choices...

ratcheer
11-18-2007, 04:56
WT 12 split label

That is my Holy Grail bourbon, but I have yet to even have a taste of it.

Tim

EricABQ
11-18-2007, 07:54
One more vote for VWFRR 13. I really think this is the best distilled spirit of any kind that I've ever tasted.

BourbonJoe
11-18-2007, 08:01
WT 12 y/o Gold Foil
Joe :usflag:

gr8erdane
11-22-2007, 01:51
Warehouse Z, Barton's distillery, single barrel, straight from the barrel, destined to go into Ridgemont Reserve 1792. Too bad it was mingled.

BourbonJoe
11-22-2007, 02:24
Warehouse Z, Barton's distillery, single barrel, straight from the barrel, destined to go into Ridgemont Reserve 1792.

I remember that one Dane. Your right, it was magnificant but not available to the general public.
Joe :usflag:

polyamnesia
11-22-2007, 07:16
WT 12 y/o Gold Foil
Joe :usflag:


is this long discontinued?

i'd like to find a thread here that lists all WTs ever produced...and which are still available (even if already discontinued)

polyamnesia
11-22-2007, 07:17
WT 12 split label

again, i have to ask, is this long discontinued?

TNbourbon
11-22-2007, 08:03
again, i have to ask, is this long discontinued?

Yes. No longer being made even for export, it was export-only for the last decade or so of its existence. (The split label, by the way, is newer than the oft-praised "cheesy" gold-foil label).
Thus, any bottles remaining to be found in this fair land have been on shelves for many years.

fussychicken
11-22-2007, 08:15
Yes. No longer being made even for export, it was export-only for the last decade or so of its existence.

Really? I saw some at a duty free shop just 2 months ago. Are they starting to phase it out?

TNbourbon
11-22-2007, 10:55
Really? I saw some at a duty free shop just 2 months ago. Are they starting to phase it out?

As you can see in any of the local 'dusties' threads, it can take years for existing stock of discontinued bottlings to disappear.
WT 12yo hasn't been made for a couple of years already.

Old Lamplighter
11-25-2007, 19:49
Van Winkle, Lot B - the older one of SW origin, bottled in Lawrenceburg. Although just about any VW product could be 'best' IMHO, this one had the best of all worlds for my palate in terms of balance, nose, start, finish, etc. Though it is entirely subjective and will be different for everyone, the 11-15 year age range is where most of my favorite bourbons lie.

reg
11-26-2007, 10:26
Ezra Brooks 15 Year Old from back in the early 80's. look to the left for pic.

BourbonJoe
11-26-2007, 11:25
Ezra Brooks 15 Year Old from back in the early 80's. look to the left for pic.
I remember that one too. Very Good stuff.
Joe :usflag:

Whiskey Willie
11-26-2007, 13:17
ORVW 10/90...Of course, that "best" will change as I continue to sample different drams.

squire
11-27-2007, 18:16
Well, if Mr. Peabody and Sherman show up on my door step I'll take out a second mortgage and, returning to the mid 1960s, buy as many cases of 12yr old Fitzgerald as the Wayback machine could hold.

Lacking that option I'll settle for Eligah Craig. Seriously, I give EC as gifts, recommend it to scotch drinking friends who ask which bourbon to buy, and find it as satisfying for my own use as anything else in the market.

Regards,
Squire

SBOmarc
11-27-2007, 19:05
First of all, love the Sherman and Peabody reference a whole bunch!

Sticking with what some of us already have, I must give my vote for WLW from the '06 Antique Collection.

craigthom
11-28-2007, 15:14
I had some of that Old Ezra in the wooden box. I think it was under $15, but that may have been with my employee discount. Those were the days.

I think Blanton's was under $30 then. I know I used to get Laphroaig 10 for around $20.

CorvallisCracker
04-14-2008, 14:44
I encountered this thread in the course of doing a web search, the purpose being to determine who makes Ezra Brooks for David Sherman (Heaven Hill?)


Ezra Brooks 15 Year Old from back in the early 80's. look to the left for pic.

Oh, I remember that stuff. It's the first over-12yo bourbon I ever encountered. Bought some just before a hunting trip. Didn't open it until we were out in the woods, first night, sitting around the campfire.

To me it was waaaaay too woody, almost grainy. Mixing it with Coke didn't help. One of the other guys had some Yukon Jack (a liqueur based on Canadian Whisky, for those unfamiliar with it). Mixed 1:1 with the YJ it was drinkable. Sort of.

Because of that stuff, to this day I approach all (untried) older bourbons with a certain amount of caution.


As for "THE best American Whiskey I have ever had", that would be Hirsch 16 Blue Wax. A year older than the EB 15 but NOT woody.

Marina Blue
04-14-2008, 19:52
As for "THE best American Whiskey I have ever had", that would be Hirsch 16 Blue Wax.

I have to agree with CorvallisCracker.

My favorite was Michter's 86 proof when the Schaeferstown plant was still operating. Missed it for years until it was reintroduced under the A.H. Hirsch label. I have enough Blue and Red Wax to last me until I can no longer manage a sip. A.H. Hirsch Blue wax is my favorite, but I do enjoy and appreciate all of the excellent Kentucky bourbons that are available today and could easily come up with another favorite if necessary. I just finished a bottle of Rebel Yell that I really enjoyed--great aroma. Perhaps my Pennsylvania heritage has something to do with the choice.

wildcatdon
04-15-2008, 07:41
Pappy Van Winkle 20 yr old..Awfully good..

StraightBoston
04-15-2008, 11:00
(As I'm sure I've mentioned before) Black Maple Hill 21yo.

felthove
04-15-2008, 11:57
PVW 15. Like it better than Pappy 20.

Stu
04-15-2008, 15:45
I'm torn between PVW23, sb bottling and FR Jim Rutledge 40th Anniversary bottling. Now if you ask me best rye based or best wheater, i can give an answer.

JamesW
04-15-2008, 16:22
PVW 15. Like it better than Pappy 20.

I agree, the PVW15 edges the 20 out most nights for me. If I was to choose one bourbon to drink the rest of my life it would be PVW15.

BourbonJoe
04-15-2008, 18:38
I've had so many great ones but I think the best one I've ever had was a J.W. Dant made in the 50's and bottled in the 60's. It was 10 y/o and BiB.
Joe :usflag:

Schpyder
04-17-2008, 17:01
VWFRR is one of the best things I've ever put in my mouth, let alone limiting it to spirits, so yeah, I'm gonna go with that.

mitchshrader
04-17-2008, 20:17
so far, Saz 18. Rye candy. I've not tasted enough old rye to be expert but don't expect better for my own taste.

Stumbled over a dusty bottle, and a Pappy 21, and the Pappy was not so special, compared to the Saz 18. Each to their own but I sure wish that Saz was more affordable.

ggilbertva
04-18-2008, 13:54
Good grief....hard to pick just one. I would have to say that my all time favorite would be Stitzel Weller Old Fitzgerald BIB. There's many that I really like but SW made such great bourbon.

drrich1965
04-18-2008, 19:54
Tie for me...

Old Weller Antique 107 (53.5%, OB, Stitzel-Weller Louisville, 90s)

Old Potrero Single Malt Whiskey Essay 7-RW-ARM-6 100% Rye uncharred oak barrels(61%, OB, December 31st, 1997- July 14th, 2000)

heatmiser
04-18-2008, 22:35
That's a tought one as there are so many good ones. For me it would have to be ORVW 15/107. However I really, really like the Old Grand Dad BIB that I have collected from the 60's and 70's. The Old Fitzgerald BIB from that era is also very good. So many whiskey's, so little time...

spun_cookie
04-18-2008, 22:44
That's a tought one as there are so many good ones. For me it would have to be ORVW 15/107.


I like that one too....

mine right now is the EW antabellum from 1980... man that is good stuff

nor02lei
04-19-2008, 06:28
At least for the ones I have had in the last couple of years I would say it is a thigh between WLW-06 and the first edition of Willet 22 rye.

Leif

RM High
05-06-2008, 20:27
I think I have to go with whatever you are buying me :-)

Jono
05-06-2008, 20:44
Very difficult to choose..of those I have ever had I nominate WT Kentucky Spirit and Buffalo Trace bourbons....with most pleasant surprise honor going to Rittenhouse BIB rye.

fricky
05-07-2008, 06:55
Since it is too difficult to pick a single best whiskey that I have had, I posted a picture showing all of them.
Doug

dave ziegler
05-07-2008, 08:01
For me it will always be Old Hickory 8 yr Bourbon made back then when I worked at Kinsey and The Continental Version of Rittenhouse Straight BIB 100 Rye, I have had the new Rittenhouse and it is awesome but ours Continental's just had such a nice flavor, smell and Mouth feel and a powerful yet mild way to it! It was such a special Rye that it was one of the very first of the brands sold when Publicker Quit the Industry. Heaven Hills now owns it and it is good but there something we did in its process that is gone!
Dave Z
Old Hickory America's Most Magnificent Bourbon
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shoshani
05-11-2008, 13:24
I'll tell you, I just had the 2006 OFBB yesterday, and it's a very close contender. If they put THAT in the Woodford Reserve bottle they could charge twice as much for it! Vanilla, spice cake, rum, butterscotch...wonderfully complex.

(Note: I've always thought WR to be weak and pallid; wondering if/when they ever bottle their pot still product, if it will have more muscle than the current expression, which I believe is still basically Forester distilled at Early Times in column stills and brought down to L&G for aging.)

OscarV
05-11-2008, 13:34
Wild Turkey Kentuky Spirit, sipping some now.
I think I have an exceptional bottle now, but the best was a pewter top bottle that I had over at Tony's (ACDetroit).

wxman
05-18-2008, 15:29
Blanton's -- Did I miss it this in the thread? I think this is one of the best, most unique whiskeys of any type. Amazing bourbon IMHO.

hokiedave92
05-19-2008, 20:09
Pappy 15 for me ........

Dave

cigarnv
05-20-2008, 04:17
ORVW 15/107 single barrel.....

TomH
05-20-2008, 05:18
ORVW 15/107 single barrel.....

Good thing I have a few of those sitting around <G>

Tom

BourbonJoe
05-20-2008, 05:20
Was the single barrel version produced for a liquor outlet? Barrel buy?
Joe :usflag:

cigarnv
05-20-2008, 05:59
Joe, this was a special bottling done by a California merchant some years back....

CorvallisCracker
05-20-2008, 08:56
Pappy 15 for me ........

Dave


ORVW 15/107 single barrel.....

Aren't those essentially the same?

boss302
05-20-2008, 22:04
I'm very much a Rye guy. So I gotta say the 2006 Thomas H. Handy.

That stuff went down smoother than a cask-strength whiskey EVER should!

And I liked the warm notes of Cinnamon, Allspice, and dried fruit. I drank it around Christmas time, which was absolutely perfect!

Eggman
05-30-2008, 20:30
Howdy,

Baker's.

Eggman

Dr. François
06-02-2008, 21:02
I really liked a certain unlabeled expression of Elijah Craig 18 I had...I can't advertise where I had it or who gave it to me, but the tasting occurred near an open-air gazebo-ish structure and was facilitated by a board member whose name rhymes with Jetty-Bo.

As far as obtainable bottles: the recently released Four Roses 120th is pretty damn incredible.

Attila
07-27-2008, 21:56
Maybe VW Family Reserve Rye 13 y/o

TBoner
07-28-2008, 09:09
Hmm...I can narrow it to 3, but no further:

Very Rare Old Collector's Item Whiskey. 20 years old. F/1955-F/1975. BIB. DSP-51 (distilled) and DSP-113 (bottled).
OR
Willett Rye #1
OR
National Distillers OGD BIB F/1980-F/1988

Any of these 3 ranks among the finest products of any sort I have ever encountered, superb representations of the American whiskey category.

Regards,

Gillman
07-28-2008, 11:49
Where was DSP-51 by the way?

I'd have to go with a group of bourbons and ryes: an early ORVW 13 year old rye; Doug Philips' 1970's, rum-like Beam's Choice; some 1950's Old Fitzgerald.

Gary

camduncan
07-28-2008, 13:36
I'd have to say Elijah Craig 18 poured straight from the barrel into a waiting glass.
If I was to narrow it down to a retail bottle, possibly the SB.com Pappy 23 or the Old Taylor bottle I was given as a gift from one of our members.
Several bottles I tried at the Sampler could also qualify, but, unfortunately, my memory is a bit hazy on the details....

TBoner
07-28-2008, 17:02
Per Sam Cecil's book, 51 would've been a rebuild of 239 (Greenbrier) and was also called Double Springs. It seems this whiskey (the BIB from DSP-51) may have been made by Sid Flashman, who "made whiskey spasmodically" at the site, but Cecil is not specific about when Flashman purchased the property or when, exactly, he last distilled there. Regardless, it was not distilling anymore by the 1960s, it appears. At that time, he sold out to Abe Schaecter, and operations were moved to Owensboro, so perhaps this whiskey was contract distilled for Flashman, or was among the last of the bourbon made at 51. That's all I've been able to track down, and a few posts from others here indicate that may be all anyone knows.

Regards,

Stones
07-30-2008, 22:44
[quote=fricky;121869]Since it is too difficult to pick a single best whiskey that I have had, I posted a picture showing all of them.
Doug

Wow Fricky! That looks like an amazing tasting night! No wonder you're unable to choose... :lol:

NorCalBoozer
07-31-2008, 12:08
I have to list it like this:

Bourbon/Whiskey

1. Stitzel Weller -- Many of the best bourbons I've ever tasted all came from legendary Stitzel Weller stock. VOF, VVOF, OF BIB, Van Blankle, and ORWV 15, even some Pappy 15's that were astounding. Across the board S/W cannot be matched. It is the best. If I have to pick one from S/W it would be a pre 1950's Very Old Fitzgerald.

2. Michters. I've tasted original Michters a few times and it's quality is top notch and such a pleasant distinct flavor. I've not tried any of the wax top Hirsch's so I don't know how similar they are. The gold foil give a hint of what the real deal is so if you can get your hands on any Michters.....do it.

3. WT Gold Foil. I'm a big WT fan and the Gold Foil I have tried is totally amazing. it was soooo rich, a holy grail for any WT fan. I find the WT's of today very good as well but they are just a bit hotter maybe oakier than the Gold Foil.

Rye

1. Willetts #1

This was just the most incredible bottle. Finding a needle in a haystack. Depth and length of the multiple flavors will astound. To think that this bottle might never have been found were it not due to some goofy bourbon geeks right here at sb.com :shocked: :shocked:

Greg

troyce
07-31-2008, 14:40
One thing I've learned about drinking bourbon, is how much the environment and atmosphere determines the taste and enjoyment of the spirit. The best whiskeys I've had have been at the gazebo over the past few years. Even Bourbon Supreme isn't so bad there.

Marvin
08-01-2008, 06:04
Very easy question for me---AAA 10 Year Old. Cheers, Marvin

Attila
10-12-2008, 03:48
Joe, this was a special bottling done by a California merchant some years back....

I have a bottle that looks just like that, only my bottle is bottle number 7.

shoshani
10-12-2008, 22:09
Silent/Departed Whiskey: Old Commonwealth beats anything else I've ever had by miles. Stitz cranked out some mighty good stuff in its day and the older it got the better it got. (I wonder who owns the property now, and whether its stills are in any shape for action at all.)

Whiskey That You Can Still Get: around 8 years ago I had a bottle of 12 YO Wild Turkey with which I was very much impressed. It had a superb honey richness that I actually demonstrated to a high-peat Scotch drinker who told me he thought Bourbon was "too rough". Knob Creek of the time had a similar dense sweetness to it, but I didn't think it was quite in the same league.

With Rye, gotta say Baby Saz. Costs twice as much as any other "shelf rye", but it's a kaleidoscopic fruity cinnamon spicy joyride of a whiskey. I would unabashedly go through a bottle a week if they sold it at the $12 or so price point that most other ryes go for. (Overholt does go for that price point and has a similar profile, but at 80 proof it does not have the same intensity. Baby Saz makes you forget that it's only 90 proof.)

polyamnesia
10-13-2008, 14:30
well, it's almost a year later...and i've tried others since i declared WT RR101 as the tops for me...since then i've had the STAGG from 2007 (wow wow wow)....and on the mellower side of the still, the EAGLE RARE 10 was simply delicious.

ok. for simply the best and mind-blowing and hard-to-beat: STAGG (slightly cut...HAD to!)

JDutton
10-13-2008, 17:48
I'd have to go with either ORVW 10/107 or '96 WLW. I wish I had another bottle of the WLW...

Jeff

callmeox
10-13-2008, 18:14
The 22 year old rye that Doug Philips poured for me at KBF. I've been ruined for life by that moment. :cool:

wskybnt
10-15-2008, 20:10
I've had about half of these mentioned above. But if i got to choose one, Pappy 20. I got like 15 top 5's though.....lol

libertybar
10-16-2008, 00:53
Well. Tough call. Very tough call.

To memory, the most enjoyable whiskey has been either the "Old Commonwealth 10yr" (A Van Winkle product, I do believe) or the Pappy 15yr or a number of Willett's.

Crap. To have to choose. Rittenhouse 23yr Rye? No, not quite as good as those above. There are a couple of Vintage bourbons that are outstanding to say the least, but I'd have to say that the 10yr "Old Commonwealth" is right now sitting at the top of my list.

DoubleT
10-17-2008, 14:29
Wow, what a hard question. I haven't had as many bourbons as others here (about 21 different brands) but I have had more than most of my friends who have taken up bourbon drinking thanks to my advise and this site. I have also enjoyed some fine Tennessee whiskey (Jack Daniels Single Barrel) but have never been a big fan of rye.

All that said, if I could only have ONE whiskey for the rest of my life it would have to be Buffalo Trace. I enjoy it neat, on the rocks, and straight up so I can't go wrong.

AntiqueBourbon
10-18-2008, 04:22
My best bourbon is Very Very Old Fitzgerald 15yo B.I.B. distilled 1954,bottled 1969

I love a A.H.Hirsch Reserve 20yo 91.6proof,too.

Special Reserve
10-18-2008, 07:19
Well, the jury is still out, but right now WT 12 with the "cheesy gold foil label" is the top contender.

edo
10-18-2008, 20:38
Right now, maybe because it's what I'm drinking, I like Wild Turkey Rye as much as anything I've ever tried. But, I remember having exactly the same thought about Blanton's Original, not too long ago, ... before I finished the bottle.

smokinjoe
10-19-2008, 06:54
Well, I can honestly say that I hope I haven't had it yet. But, if I had to select one now, it would be the McScrooge's bottling of S-W Pappy 15. Doug's 22 yr. rye would be right behind it.

AVB
10-19-2008, 07:14
Jim Beam Distiller's Masterpiece 18 yo Cognac Finish Bourbon would be my #1 with a Classic Cask 22 yo Rye close behind.

Gillman
10-19-2008, 07:56
I have to mention a few: Doug Phillips' 1970's Beam's Choice (a square-shaped bottle with a black label similar to today's Beam Black label); some of Tim Sousley's 1950's-70's S-W bottlings; A.H. Hirsch 20; Hirsch 16 blue wax; Tony's 1970's Benchmark; the current Hirsch 22 rye. There have been many others though (e.g., Bobby's Yellowstone Mellow Mash).

Gary

fishnbowljoe
10-19-2008, 13:48
Eagle Rare 101, with JD Silver Select a close second. Joe

libertybar
10-19-2008, 17:14
My best bourbon is Very Very Old Fitzgerald 15yo B.I.B. distilled 1954,bottled 1969

OK..........that's just not fair...

Stu
10-19-2008, 23:47
The barrel of Willet Rye that Hans bought to be shipped to Switzerland. It beat out Doug's rye by hair on the end of the nose (IMHO). Unfortunately I won't be able to buy any (sniff sniff).

AntiqueBourbon
10-20-2008, 00:39
OK..........that's just not fair...

This old fitzgerald was very sweety,very long finished,my best bourbon whiskey.:lol:

NorCalBoozer
10-20-2008, 09:53
My best bourbon is Very Very Old Fitzgerald 15yo B.I.B. distilled 1954,bottled 1969


I have one of these VVOF 15 yr in my bunker, same bottled date.

As far as I can tell it was only made one year. That makes it pretty rare for SW bottles. Do you have any information about this bottling?

Greg

cformes
10-20-2008, 11:17
I've never had anything match the PVW20, but I haven't touched the PVW23 on the shelf yet either...

On a side note, I've noticed that Michter's 10yo Bourbon hasn't got much love around here, but I've found it to be one of my favorite neats. Is it something that's not readily available outside of SoCal?

Josh
10-20-2008, 11:21
VO Barton, 90 proof (haven't tried the BIB yet). Close second, 4R Yellow label.
Honorable Mention: Booker's, OF Sig 100, OC10, Dickel No. 8

camduncan
10-20-2008, 13:34
It's not the best bourbon I've ever had, but the (estimated) 30 year old Beams Choice I got to try on Saturday night was a real treat. Light, smooth and no burn at all with a finish that was sweet like toffee.

AntiqueBourbon
10-20-2008, 14:16
I have one of these VVOF 15 yr in my bunker, same bottled date.

As far as I can tell it was only made one year. That makes it pretty rare for SW bottles. Do you have any information about this bottling?

Greg


Woo!:bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: You have ...
VVO is a very good taste bourbon.

This fitzgerald got a ebay auction 6years ago.
I can't get a very very old fitzgerald 18yo in ebay auction.

gblick
10-21-2008, 06:27
I would have to say Stitzel-Weller juice: Van Winkles, Old Fitz's, And Old Wellers.

chefnash51
11-03-2008, 06:30
I Loved Lot B... Loved ORVW 10/107 .... Loved PVW 20... but PVW 15 Blew me away.

hands down my favorite thus far. But my travels have been short and the road ahead is long and windy

Jazzhead
11-03-2008, 07:21
There's a lot of superb American whiskey, but the best of the best, for me, is the tried and true Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve 101. My supply is slowly dwindling, but I'm confident that for the next couple of years at least, I'll be able to enjoy my favorite.

My second favorite is also one, unfortunately, in dwindling supply - Old Weller Centennial.

Luckily my third favorite, Four Roses Single Barrel, is a new one on the market.

Gillman
11-03-2008, 09:05
I had reserved some A.H. Hirsch 20 bourbon some time back and revisited. It is probably the best bourbon I've ever had, if I have to select one (earlier I named a group I liked a lot).

It is really, technically and in flavor, a quasi-rye due to its high rye content and has that rye spearmint thing going which is characteristic of some aged ryes.

It is quite different in taste to Hirsch 16 although the Hirsch 16 blue wax was closer than the others. I don't see why this is so, because Hirsch 16 seems woodier and less delicate all 'round (despite being 4 years younger that is). But there you are, perhaps the barrels selected for the bottling were from a different part of wherever they were warehoused before dumping and bottling or tanking.

Gary

OscarV
11-03-2008, 14:24
It has been almost a year since this thread started (11-17-07) and each time I see a new post I say to myself I gotta post a responce.
But I cannot narrow it down to one.

Although I have recently come up with three bourbons that while none of them is "THE" best I ever had but the three that are easily available to me and I will always have some bunkered and/or open ready to pour.

They are in no particular order;

a. Wild Turkey Rare Breed, if you would have asked me about this brand a half year ago or so I'd have said WT Kentucky Spirit. But the recent WTKS's I have had seem young and a let down after some stellar ones I have had in the past.

b. Four Roses Single Barrel, not available in MI but for this bottle KY and Chi-Town are both a very short drive.

c. Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 107prf, one good thing about being in MI is the vodka, brown-vodka and schnapps drinkers don't know about this glourious bourbon. They can't keep it on the shelves elsewhere. I picked up a couple today and the guy said I can get you a case, no problem.

Ok, I went way off topic but like I said I've been wanting to post something here for almost a year. I'll keep thinking, maybe I can come up with "THE" one.

Dramiel McHinson
11-04-2008, 11:37
Like most here, I struggle to choose just one favorite whiskey. Heck, my favorite is usually the one I happen to be drinking at the moment. I'll give it a try.

My favorite was Old Charter 12, The Classic 90. This was good, affordable whiskey. You could drink it straight up, drop a little water or ice on it, even mix it in your favorite drink and it seemed to always settle in nicely.

Now that it is rare and hard to find I've ventured off aimlessly sampling whiskey where ever I can find it. During my unfocused ventures into other brands from big and small distillers, I happened on Booker's True Barrel Bourbon 6 yrs 3 months old from batch C00-K-15, 63.5&#37; ABV. This was a great tasting bourbon with plenty of kick to withstand even the most insidious use of cola or ginger ale. The price is about $50 but the bottle goes a long way at 126.7 proof.

Of course there are the other bourbons that are just one pour away from being the new favorite. But, I have another bottle of Booker's to finish first.

Cheers!

callmeox
11-04-2008, 19:40
Have I said lately that Doug Philips 22 year old rye was the best whiskey to ever grace my palate?

I figure if I repeat that a few more times, someone will discover that they have an extra in their bunker and offer it to me at a fair price. :grin: :grin: :grin:

Attila
12-16-2008, 02:03
VWFRR and PVW20 are now out of the running.

Its either Weller Centennial or Dickel Single Barrel.

HighTower
12-16-2008, 03:07
VWFRR and PVW20 are now out of the running.

Its either Weller Centennial or Dickel Single Barrel.
Wow,

Big call there David!

Although, after opening my centennial......I know where you're coming from :grin:

Scott

fishnbowljoe
12-16-2008, 14:50
Had a taste of the Willett's 25 year old at the Chicago get together at Binny's last Saturday. "The Chocolate Monster" Just when I thought another bourbon couldn't turn my head. :skep: It might just be worth the $200+ price tag. It was one exceptional bourbon. Joe

Lost Pollito
12-16-2008, 14:57
Also at the get together, my favorite's are Brett's 18yo Pappy, and The '08 Handy. Can't pick just one.

Rughi
12-17-2008, 00:10
Have I said lately that Doug Philips 22 year old rye was the best whiskey to ever grace my palate?

I figure if I repeat that a few more times, someone will discover that they have an extra in their bunker and offer it to me at a fair price. :grin: :grin: :grin:

There are two likely bottlings you might be referring to. Any idea if it's the "Doug Phillips" (the first Willett Rye bottling) or the "Neal and Doug's" (the second) ?

Roger

onmytrack
12-18-2008, 21:03
Another vote for ORVW 15 (down to my last 2 bottles). And no, it is not the same as PVW 15.

Jim

callmeox
12-18-2008, 21:54
There are two likely bottlings you might be referring to. Any idea if it's the "Doug Phillips" (the first Willett Rye bottling) or the "Neal and Doug's" (the second) ?

Roger

I believe it was the Doug bottlling that found its way into John Hansells hands and made his top 10 list in 2006.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

spun_cookie
12-18-2008, 21:56
I am going to have to plug the PVW 15yr from the bourbon crusades.. every day that bottle gets better....

Virus_Of_Life
12-19-2008, 01:21
I believe it was the Doug bottlling that found its way into John Hansells hands and made his top 10 list in 2006.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?


Have I said lately that Doug Philips 22 year old rye was the best whiskey to ever grace my palate?

I figure if I repeat that a few more times, someone will discover that they have an extra in their bunker and offer it to me at a fair price. :grin: :grin: :grin:

I have one in the bunker, but sorry you're not getting it for even an UNreasonable price. It is one of the best whiskies I've ever tasted, Doug has an incredible pallate for sure. Not sure I'd give it a #1, but pretty sure it is in my top 5. For the moment I am thinking one of the SB.com SB PVW23 bottles would hold my #1, Hirsch Blue Wax would be in the top 5 as well. Hard to really break it down when you count everything I've tasted at the gazebo. Impossible really.

Weller Antique the Original Barrel Proof was amazing. Randy's Van Blankle is outstanding, you'll never count how many times that has been said. The VWSR 12 year that Dan (Schlep) opened at this past year's sampler was incredible and different - I've been lucky enough to acquire two of those since then! :grin:

fricky
12-19-2008, 03:57
I cannot pick a best American Whiskey. There are many that are outstanding. Unless I can sample all at the same time, it is impossible for me to pick one based on memory. The best that I can do is pick my favorite from a Gazebo assortment. Baed on a number of Gazebo events, one of my favorites is Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yr from Lawrenceburg that Randy often brings to The Gazebo. One of this year's favorites is The Party Source bottling of Willett 12 yr bourbon.

kickert
12-19-2008, 05:23
08 George T Stagg.

I had to create a new bourbon category in my mind for this one.

Special Reserve
12-19-2008, 05:50
08 George T Stagg.

I had to create a new bourbon category in my mind for this one.

GTS 08 is a strong contender for this tittle.

In another thread someone commented how long its taste lingered, I strongly agree.

I don't have sufficient expertise to adequately describe it.

doubleblank
12-19-2008, 07:02
Hey Scott ....... you're crying a river for one of those Willett 22 yo ryes! I'll check my inventory, but I MIGHT have one to spare. If I don't, I'll at least bring some to the next Gazebo event. At one time I had two cases of both 22yo ryes Doug and his Bay Area group selected. IIRC, their first bottling AKA "Doug Philips" was a consensus selection and the Doug and Neal bottling was Doug's personal favorite. I had the opportunity to taste their samples when I visited Doug several years ago and I ended up also picking the two they chose from the five samples.......great choices by Doug. Its a fine drink and that's coming from someone who doesn't drink much rye.

As to the subject matter, I don't have a single best but would put a handfull of bottlings from the SW distillery in my top five. ORVW 15 is one of them. The Lot B SB AKA Van Blankle is up there. And there were a couple of Black Maple Hill's when Julian bottled it that stand out. I just can't name only one.

Randy

nor02lei
12-19-2008, 09:09
I think it is a thigh between Doug’s first 22 year rye and WLW 2006.

Leif

Old Lamplighter
12-19-2008, 18:03
Another vote for ORVW 15 (down to my last 2 bottles). And no, it is not the same as PVW 15.

Jim

I would agree.....at least in terms of it not being the same. However, I prefer PVW 15 and cast my vote for same. Albeit, a very hard choice with Lot B and WTRB very, very close - in that order.

Rughi
12-19-2008, 21:29
At one time I had two cases of both 22yo ryes Doug and his Bay Area group selected. IIRC, their first bottling AKA "Doug Philips" was a consensus selection and the Doug and Neal bottling was Doug's personal favorite. I had the opportunity to taste their samples when I visited Doug several years ago and I ended up also picking the two they chose from the five samples.

You've got it right Randy.

The first bottling was indeed the one that hatched the concept. I remember vividly when Doug called me while I was in my car driving home from work, elated and gushing about having just come back from dinner with Drew and had tasted one of the best whiskies he'd ever had. I think about that moment every time I go past the tree where I pulled over to talk for 1/2 an hour about how to get ahold of that barrel.

However, by the time we compared it to several other barrel samples that Drew later sent, Doug and Neal preferred what became the second bottling. Tim Hoban (I really miss Tim3), Titus, Ed, Susan and I lobbied for what became the first bottling, and I believe Greg the Norcal Boozer couldn't make it that night.

Those were great times. Here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57801&highlight=rye#post57801) is a post about it. Several posts before and after that one go into more detail on how we picked those barrels. I had forgotten until I reread those posts that some of the people interested in this wacky barrel proof, unfiltered old rye project were hesitating when it turned out it would cost about $8 more than originally anticipated. :slappin: :slappin: :slappin:

Roger

scratchline
12-20-2008, 03:16
The other night a friend of a friend came over to pour some cognacs. This guy is a blues harp player whose brother (also a talented blues musician) married a girl from the Cognac region of France. The harp player, Matthew, is using his new-found family connections to begin importing small batch cognacs from local farms. Normally, most of their run is sold to the four major cognac producers and then blended into big names: Remy, Courvoisier, Martell, and one other that escapes me now. Matthew hopes to do for cognac, what the single malt movement did for scotch. Anyway, the cognac was AMAZING. A couple of distinctive younger examples (5-7 years); one, perfumed and floral, the other, rich and fruity, with loads of pear. Then three vintage samples with quite a bit more age. And finally an unusual cognac/framboise liqueur that was very dry and served chilled. After all that, Matthew asked me to wow him with some bourbon.

I pulled out an open '07 Stagg, a 70's bonded Old Taylor, and an 86 proof PA Old Overholt. After trying the three, Matthew said that he had recently had the yellow label Beam Rye, and with the OO lingering on his palate, he thought he "really liked rye." I dragged out my ladder and crawled above the Murphy bed (space in my studio apartment is at an absolute premium), reaching for one of my last two bottles of Willett's 22 yr. rye. It took some doing to get through the wax, but after the bottle had been cracked and sampled and the assembled group had been left with smacking lips and eyes wide, one of Matthew's friends, an old blues guitarist who was a longtime bourbon drinker but whose health had recently switched him over to exclusively wine, declared "That's the best whiskey I've ever had." Who was I to disagree? To give you some idea of this guy's bona fides, he plays all the guitar parts for the Muddy Waters character in the recently released Cadillac Records.


The VanBlankle, a barrel proof S-W from Julian's private stash (thanks, Tim), a 60's era six year bonded Crow, the 12 yr old barrel proof Willett that Fricky offered me at the Gazebo this year; each of those was THE best at the time.

I'm sure there were others but those stand out right now. How did I get through that list without mentioning a single WT?

-Mike

wku88
12-22-2008, 21:52
I've not had the pleasure to sample some of the more revered (and very expensive) specimens, but I have to say Very Rare Old Heaven Hill 10yo BIB is my favorite. Templeton Rye would be second.

funknik
01-04-2009, 14:27
My favorite pour is probably EC12, but what I think is the best I've had is definitely this year's Handy Saz Rye. I haven't tried a lot of different brands and I have a bunch of different kinds bunkered that I will be trying for the first time soon, but so far, nothing is as smooth, complex and tasty as this bottle. Not an everyday pour, but a head turner for sure.

dave ziegler
01-04-2009, 14:46
My Favorite one is easy for me it would be any Old Hickory from Continental Distilling, and especialy the 86 Proof stuff from the 1960's.
No Matter How much I try Whiskeys I always still like my Old Hickory the best!

Guess it is just so Dam Smooth I love drinking it
Dave Z
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