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fussychicken
12-03-2007, 21:41
So last night I opened up my first bottle of the BIB and have been highly impressed. This led to me digging for some more info, and what I can gather is:
The BIB and the 80 proof was made at DSP31 up to the fire
After the fire the BIB was (is?) made at DSP354 aka Brown-Forman aka Shively
The BIB is a 6 year
The 80 proof is a 4 yearThis unfortunately leads to some unanswered questions if anyone knows:
I'm guessing the 80 proof is made at DSP354 as well? What about the Pikesville, the same?
Why does HH make this rye at DSP354? Why not at their home distillery? Chuck mentions here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=81638&postcount=20) that they are at capacity at Bernheim, and that may be true. But come on, they can't be making that much rye. Why not do at home? Maybe they have already switched? I just picked up a bottle that has bottom date of 07, so it looks like they were making it at DSP354 at least up to 2001.
Has anyone compared the true DSP31 BIB to the DSP354 BIB? (The reason I say true DSP31 is because it some of the early DSP354 actually had a DSP31 label (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=51951&postcount=55).) If so, let us know what you think!

HipFlask
12-03-2007, 22:37
I don't know about all that but I do know I really like Rittenhouse Rye. I haven't really noticed a switch from 354 to 351.

CrashRiley
12-05-2007, 19:57
The Rittenhouse BIB is the greatest whiskey bargain in my store. It is absolutely indispensible. Ideal for Sazeracs and Manhattans, and just plain lovely by itself.

Every bar should keep at least 1 bottle around at all times.

Jono
12-07-2007, 15:46
It is fantastic stuff....let us all bury this thread so it does not become too popular....and expensive!

cowdery
12-07-2007, 18:30
All of the Rittenhouse and every other Heaven Hill rye comes from one day of production annually. Let's see if we can get them up to two!!!

squire
12-08-2007, 20:05
I vote for two.

Squire

craigthom
12-09-2007, 12:22
The Rittenhouse rye, 80 proof and BIB, has disappeared from the shelves of two Liquor Barns in Louisville. I haven't checked the third, but I assume it's the same. There's no empty shelf spot for them.

I checked the rye shelf, the Heaven Hill shelves, and the BIB shelves. Nothing.

I don't know if it's hard to get, or if they've decided not to carry it, or what.

fussychicken
12-09-2007, 22:33
Here's another question. How in the world is this whiskey so dark considering it is only a 6 year?!?!

cowdery
12-10-2007, 08:25
For some reason, Liquor Barn doesn't seem to carry Rittenhouse, but it is available in Kentucky. I know Party Source, up by Cincinnati, has it.

Jono
12-23-2007, 20:02
I found Rittenhouse BIB 100 in Binny's for $11.99...what a steal! I bought one for a Christmas present and another for me.

The 80 (86?) proof was $9.99.

TNbourbon
12-23-2007, 20:12
I fear that it will be $25 next Wednesday.

squire
12-31-2007, 00:41
I picked up a bottle on Saturday for $14.99 in Athens, GA. Thats $2-3 more a bottle than I paid last year. Still worth it in my opinion.

Squire

Jono
12-31-2007, 10:50
This is probably an ignorant Q and has most likely been discussed in the past, but why is Rittenhouse Rye BIB 100: 1. So plentiful? 2. So good?

Is it the "$2 buck Chuck" of Rye?

Rughi
12-31-2007, 11:22
... but why is Rittenhouse Rye BIB 100: 1. So plentiful? ...?

Because you live in Chicagoland.

It's only spottily available nationally. For years, Utah was the closest state to me in which I could get Rittenhouse. I used to carry a bottle or two home with me on business trips to SLC.

My friend Ed Ledger had to work harder to get Rittenhouse in California (he was the first that I know of - and Bevmo quickly tried to get it soon after he did it) than he did to launch the first of the Willett Ryes that are now so ubiquitous in sb.com discussions of great whiskey (of course, Doug was doing the heavy lifting on the Willett).

And Fred Franzia should be so lucky to have his $2 Chuck equal the quality of Rittenhouse BIB.

Roger

Jono
12-31-2007, 11:28
Then I count myself Bourbon/Rye Blessed!

tsangster
12-31-2007, 16:03
I picked up a bottle on Saturday for $14.99 in Athens, GA.
Squire


Uh Oh. Somebody's found my source. Good thing I grabbed a bottle this afternoon.

If you're a routine visitor to Athens let me know next time you're in town. I'll buy you a drink.

Regards.

squire
01-03-2008, 21:18
Thanks Tom. Same offer here if you find yourself in my area.

Squire

burbankbrewer
01-04-2008, 08:45
I found Rittenhouse BIB 100 in Binny's for $11.99...what a steal! I bought one for a Christmas present and another for me.

The 80 (86?) proof was $9.99.

I think I seen this at my local store. Now I have to go and check. They actually had about 7 rye's. 4 were bottom shelf and I think that was one.

melting
01-04-2008, 14:43
It's too bad that this has such spotty distribution. I've only had 1 bottle and enjoyed it greatly. I've only seen it in one local store and actually the price was kind of high. It was either $19.99 or $21.99. I can't recall exactly how much without checking. I keep good track of these things.

It's still good at these prices, but in my opinion, not worth the extra 5 bucks over Wild Turkey Rye.

Chris

burbankbrewer
01-07-2008, 10:31
It is fantastic stuff....let us all bury this thread so it does not become too popular....and expensive!

So do you drink it? Neat, add water, add ice, in a Manhattan? I'm having trouble discerning flavors with all that ethanol.

Old Lamplighter
01-19-2008, 22:17
In the last couple of months, I have only come across 1 or 2 bottles of the BIB. Is it in short supply these days as well? Or, is it something HH bottles/releases only at a certain time each year? As popular as it has been, I cannot believe it is not going to be available in West Tenn in present or future.

burbankbrewer
01-20-2008, 08:27
I dunno but I can get bottles of it for $9.99 here. Just keep lookin is all I can say.

cowdery
01-20-2008, 11:25
$9.99! Really? Not that the $11.99 I pay in Chicago is any great burden, I just wouldn't think there'd be that much play in the price. Your place must have gotten a sweet deal.

And it's right next to 80 proof Jim Beam Rye at $15.99. All hail Heaven Hill.

They had plenty at Binny's the other day. In fact, they had plenty of both the BIB and the 80 proof. But Binny's looked funny that day. Every shelf position seemed like it was either full or empty. January is traditionally inventory season.

Ryes still seem to be more talked-about than purchased and consumed, which probably makes it hard for retailers to hit the right stocking levels.

boone
01-20-2008, 11:38
We still bottle Rittenhouse quite regular (as usual) but it does not hold a candle to the number of bourbon's that we bottle. That's the way it's always been. Seems that more people are requesting/buying the rye. Makes it scarce at times.


In the last couple of months, I have only come across 1 or 2 bottles of the BIB. Is it in short supply these days as well? Or, is it something HH bottles/releases only at a certain time each year? As popular as it has been, I cannot believe it is not going to be available in West Tenn in present or future.

burbankbrewer
01-20-2008, 12:56
$9.99! Really? Not that the $11.99 I pay in Chicago is any great burden, I just wouldn't think there'd be that much play in the price. Your place must have gotten a sweet deal.



Maybe I should bunker a few. I was lookin for ORVW 107 but they only had the 90 and 12yo lot B. I didn't feel like driving to Sams or Binny's so I bought the 90 hoping to find a gem. I drank it neat. It's good but I was hoping for more. I think it needs more evaluation today while I'm watching the games. :slappin:

Old Lamplighter
01-22-2008, 23:01
I saw one bottle today for $17.99.....the highest I have seen it around these parts. First saw it last year for $14.99. Now that there is little to be had (at least around here), naturally the price has risen. Wonder if that bodes ill in terms of price for the new/next ones I see (hopefully) in the near future(?).

melting
01-23-2008, 14:34
I haven't seen much of it lately up in these parts either. It was priced at $21.99. That may be a little steep if you ask me.

Chris

Solomon2
01-31-2008, 19:51
Uh Oh. Somebody's found my source. Good thing I grabbed a bottle this afternoon.

If you're a routine visitor to Athens let me know next time you're in town. I'll buy you a drink.

Regards.

Let me guess: that liquor store across the street from Brumby Hall, yes?

dave ziegler
02-26-2008, 09:32
Just got my First Bottle of Rittenhouse Rye since the old days at Kinsey Distillery / Continental Distilling and Can hardly wait to try it got the 80 proof for now can't get it In Pa but was able after someone told to get it from Binnys. I noted with great Pleasure that they are using The name Continental Distilling on the Bottle what a tribute a great thing to Use the Original Distiller Maker of the Formual of this rye's name on the Bottle, Simon Neuman Publickers long time Chairman would be proud! It was always very Special and one of the very First Whiskeys I tasted working there! I also see the DSP #354 on the back and will check it out soon had to have it shipped to work so someone could sign for it! It will be awesome but not having the old stuff I can't compare but since all the things I have read I'm sure HH is making it to the Continental Spec's
Dave Z

floatingfast
11-21-2008, 11:49
Personally, I find the Rittenhouse suitable-especially when you are on a budget. Although, I find it does not compare to even a decent bourbon.

polyamnesia
11-21-2008, 19:28
i am really preferring the rye and rye-heavy bourbons as i expand my tasting exploits....

with regards to total ryes, i've only had the OOverholt and the WTurkey...

goes w/o saying the WT was superior, but would the Rittenhouse be a step up or a good transitional rye to try as i work my way up to the higher end Sazeracs?

cowdery
11-21-2008, 20:15
I would say that Rittenhouse is the most bourbon-like rye, so it tastes more like a high-rye bourbon such as Bulleit or Old Grand-Dad than it does like Jim Beam Rye, Old Overholt, Wild Turkey Rye, or even Baby Saz. Which is best is whichever one you like the best, but I would consider Rittenhouse and, say, Jim Beam Rye so different that there are times when I might want one or the other, but neither one is really better. They are too different for you to say, "this is a better execution of this style of whiskey."

Josh
12-15-2008, 12:34
I would say that Rittenhouse is the most bourbon-like rye, so it tastes more like a high-rye bourbon such as Bulleit or Old Grand-Dad than it does like Jim Beam Rye, Old Overholt, Wild Turkey Rye, or even Baby Saz. Which is best is whichever one you like the best, but I would consider Rittenhouse and, say, Jim Beam Rye so different that there are times when I might want one or the other, but neither one is really better. They are too different for you to say, "this is a better execution of this style of whiskey."

I was just about to comment on this myself. So I will. :skep:

I would agree that it is a very bourbonesque rye. In fact, I could barely find the rye in it at all. I have gotten more rye flavor out of MM. Maybe I should just drink it at bottle proof, but even with barely enough water to take it down to 95 proof (this is the BiB I'm referring to) it just tasted kind of blah. The OO at 80 proof seemed to have more flavor.

Are my tastebuds completely screwy or have I been spoiled by flavorful bourbons, or has anybody else had this experience?:searching: