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fogfrog
01-06-2008, 12:55
Hello,

Its been a long time since I participated in this forum. I moved to TN. The selection is a little different here than it was in KS. I can get Four Roses which I have yet to try and Barton's VOB which I like a lot. I also wanted to get some Evan Williams and I bought the White Label, the 100 Proof Bottled in Bond and it tastes a lot better to me than the Black Label. What I don't understand is how this can be as I thought the Black Label was aged more and the White Label was unaged. Yet time and time again I try both and find the White Label at 100 proof to taste to me like a Premium Whiskey. It is also quite inexpensive. I think I got a bottle for under ten dollars.

Has anyone else tried the Evan Williams White Label?

Thanks,

Paul C.

barturtle
01-06-2008, 17:25
I quite like EW BIB. I will admit to not having compared it to EW Black, though. Interesting it doesn't seem that EW BIB is available in KY-(I will admit my reference here is Bourbons Bistro' Bourbon List-they say if they can get it in Louisville, they put it on the shelf). I expect it to be comparable to some of the other HH BIBs and have been putting together a fairly complete set to do a tasting of in the somewhat near future.

So far I have:
HH BIB Gold label
HH BIB 6yo White with green
VROHH 10yo BIB
EW BIB White Label

To be added:
J.W. Dant BIB
J.T.S. Brown BIB
Henry McKenna SB BIB

I think that will exhaust the HH BIB rye-recipe bourbons.

TNbourbon
01-06-2008, 18:04
I've seen EW BIB (white) in stores serviced by SE (Chattanooga) distributors here in Tennessee. It is NOT available in Middle Tennessee. Not sure about East (Knoxville) and West (Memphis).

boone
01-06-2008, 18:10
I think that will exhaust the HH BIB rye-recipe bourbons.

That list might exhaust what you have but it's not all that there is :grin: :grin:

One most notable name taking bourbon is missing...:grin: :grin:

Drama...drama...drama...

along with many other's but this "one" should be a easy guess.

barturtle
01-06-2008, 18:25
T.W. Samuels'? I haven't seen that in forever, can you still get it in a bond?

TNbourbon
01-06-2008, 18:37
T.W. Samuels'? I haven't seen that in forever, can you still get it in a bond?
http://www.heaven-hill.com/brands-bourbon.html

Look under 'other bourbons'.

Or, Bettye Jo might be referencing Old Fitz.

boone
01-06-2008, 18:39
T.W. Samuels'? I haven't seen that in forever, can you still get it in a bond?

T.W. Samuels it is :grin: :grin:

Many of the bond labels are still live because I've seen them, still in the books. Bonded order's have always been rather small compared to the other bottling's that we do. It seems that bottling the "bonded product" becomes far and few nowdays. Before shutdown, one (1) of my oder's...44 thousand (44,000 cases)...not bond though.

barturtle
01-06-2008, 18:52
Hmmm, now where was I the last time I saw any T.W. Samuels...not sure...well, if I run across a bottle I'll add it into the box for the tasting, since I have no set date for when I'm gonna do this, there's a good chance I'll find one.

Rughi
01-06-2008, 20:00
Look under 'other bourbons'.

This is an aside, but I looked under "other bourbons" and was surprised to see that Cabin Still is owned by Heaven Hill. I had thought it was sold by UDV to David Sherman, and that presumably HH was filling orders for Sherman. Maybe I have Cabin Still and Rebel Yell mixed up - or am just totally off.

Cabin Yell?
Rebel Still?

Roger

boone
01-06-2008, 20:03
This is an aside, but I looked under "other bourbons" and was surprised to see that Cabin Still is owned by Heaven Hill. I had thought it was sold by UDV to David Sherman, and that presumably HH was filling orders for Sherman. Maybe I have Cabin Still and Rebel Yell mixed up - or am just totally off.

Roger

We still own Cabin Still and yes, Sherman owns the Rebel Yell.

boone
01-06-2008, 20:17
http://www.heaven-hill.com/brands-bourbon.html

Look under 'other bourbons'.

Or, Bettye Jo might be referencing Old Fitz.

That's the "flagship" brands, I assume?...There's a jillion other bourbon labels (BIB and regular) that we produce that's not on there

Dowling (BIB), Don and Ben (BIB)...and the list goes on :grin:

I know 'em, :grin: :grin: :grin: I was label machine operator for seven years before I took the job I do now :grin: :grin:

ThomasH
01-06-2008, 23:00
I bought a bottle of T.W. Samuels BIB at Party Source on my last trip to Ky. this past spring!

Thomas

fogfrog
01-07-2008, 18:14
I've seen EW BIB (white) in stores serviced by SE (Chattanooga) distributors here in Tennessee. It is NOT available in Middle Tennessee. Not sure about East (Knoxville) and West (Memphis).

I am in Knoxville and we have the White and Green labels.

fogfrog
01-08-2008, 16:55
Miss Bettye Jo, is the White Label Evan Williams aged as much as the Black Label? I like it better than the Black. Curious whats the difference between the White and Black. I know the White is 100Proof.... and the green is 80, and the Black is 90. The stores say its just the proof, but I am not sure about that.

boone
01-09-2008, 10:03
Miss Bettye Jo, is the White Label Evan Williams aged as much as the Black Label? I like it better than the Black. Curious whats the difference between the White and Black. I know the White is 100Proof.... and the green is 80, and the Black is 90. The stores say its just the proof, but I am not sure about that.

Paul,

The EW black is 86 proof and is a mix of 7 year old and younger bourbon. The actual % of each, I do not know.

The EW white is BIB (100 proof) and is 4 years old.

You were right and the store keeper's were wrong, the difference is more than just the proof :grin:

reg
01-10-2008, 16:37
This is one of the best pours for the money. hard to find in Alabama, not carried by ABC. some package stores have it and well worth the $15. I always get 3 bottles and try to keep one bunkered away.

fogfrog
01-12-2008, 09:27
Why does 4YO Evan Williams taste better to me than the Black Label? Black Label has older whiskeys in it.

fogfrog
02-02-2008, 15:29
they have TW Samuels here in Knoxville and it is dirt cheap. Less than EW Black. I wonder if it is the same stuff? I think its 8.50 a bottle and EW Black is 12 bucks. So TW might be a real steal.

wskybnt
02-25-2008, 19:42
I've seen EW BIB (white) in stores serviced by SE (Chattanooga) distributors here in Tennessee. It is NOT available in Middle Tennessee. Not sure about East (Knoxville) and West (Memphis).

Just got a White Label BIB today. I've seen it around (Memhis) but never bought any Black or white EW... They were both $10.49, so I got the higher proof BIB, and I like it a lot. You can tell it's on the young side, but $11 out the door, how can you complain. I was looking for a cheap pour, most of them were 80-86 proof, a couple 90's but this was the only 100 under $16.50 (Old Grandad BIB which I like a lot).

If you find it, try it. I'm going to keep it around for $11.

fogfrog
02-28-2008, 15:44
Are most bottled in bonds low in age? I like the Evan Williams and wonder why the Old Grand Dad costs two times as much.... they are both rather young right?

NickAtMartinis
02-28-2008, 16:52
Are most bottled in bonds low in age? I like the Evan Williams and wonder why the Old Grand Dad costs two times as much.... they are both rather young right?


I believe so, Frog. One of the government stipulations for BIB is that the bourbon has to be at least four years old. As a result, I do believe most BIB's are right in that ball park, with some exceptions.

squire
02-29-2008, 20:21
They're at least 4 years old but perhaps no more. Old Grand Dad costs more because it trades on a reputation of being a premium rather than merely good.

Squire