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fogfrog
03-02-2008, 15:20
I just poured some Bulleit.... Loved it.... and followed it with Bartons VOB BIB...... thought the Bulleit was much better, and the barton's was ok, but there was a bite. I then had Four Roses Yellow Label and to me it tasted like the Bartons but without the bite. I am thinking at least right now, I like the Bulleit better than the 4Roses. but I am learning..... any comments?

spun_cookie
03-02-2008, 15:28
I just poured some Bulleit.... Loved it.... and followed it with Bartons VOB BIB...... thought the Bulleit was much better, and the barton's was ok, but there was a bite. I then had Four Roses Yellow Label and to me it tasted like the Bartons but without the bite. I am thinking at least right now, I like the Bulleit better than the 4Roses. but I am learning..... any comments?

Well, I am not a big Bulleit fan... but I would recomend you compair the Bulleit to the Four Roses Small Batch since the are closer in cost...

I think you find the small batch the better of the two...

fogfrog
03-02-2008, 15:36
thanks spun!... actually, the bulleit I got for about 11 a pint. But .... I happen to also have a bottle of small batch so will do the test. What I have yet to procure is the single barrel which we have a specialty bottling of for Mcscrooges here in Knoxville ... Yes, I LOVE 4ROSES small batch.... The Bourbon Guru at my liquor store said he liked Yellow Label, so I bought it too. Right now I am drinking Old Grand Dad Bottled in Bond and the first sip was ok, the second sip is AWESOME!!!!! but I agree... the 4Roses small batch is superior, but around here, Bulleit is like 21 bucks and 4Roses I am guessing 27? Single Barrel is 36....... do you recommend I buy Single Barrel? It will become my most expensive buy..... Thanks!

spun_cookie
03-02-2008, 15:46
I did. It is another step up from the small batch. I have grown to really like the Four Roses products...

It would be something you will enjoy if you like the small batch. :drinking:

NickAtMartinis
03-02-2008, 18:01
thanks spun!... actually, the bulleit I got for about 11 a pint. But .... I happen to also have a bottle of small batch so will do the test. What I have yet to procure is the single barrel which we have a specialty bottling of for Mcscrooges here in Knoxville ... Yes, I LOVE 4ROSES small batch.... The Bourbon Guru at my liquor store said he liked Yellow Label, so I bought it too. Right now I am drinking Old Grand Dad Bottled in Bond and the first sip was ok, the second sip is AWESOME!!!!! but I agree... the 4Roses small batch is superior, but around here, Bulleit is like 21 bucks and 4Roses I am guessing 27? Single Barrel is 36....... do you recommend I buy Single Barrel? It will become my most expensive buy..... Thanks!


Fog, I have the McScrooges Four Roses Single Barrel and it's very good. Definitely give it a try.

HipFlask
03-02-2008, 20:17
I would certainly try the FR1B. It is a cut above the Small Batch in my book. I haven't yet had the yellow label but I have had Bulliet. It has been awhile but I don't think I cared for it. I say that because it has been awhile and I haven't gone out of my way to pick more up.

craigthom
03-02-2008, 20:38
4Roses I am guessing 27? Single Barrel is 36....... do you recommend I buy Single Barrel? It will become my most expensive buy..... Thanks!

I recommend you drive over the state line to buy your bourbon!

Markoturbo
03-02-2008, 21:57
As for Four Roses, the single barrel has alot more going on (flavor and proof) than the small batch, I much perfer the single.

HighTower
03-03-2008, 03:53
I just poured some Bulleit.... Loved it.... and followed it with Bartons VOB BIB...... thought the Bulleit was much better, and the barton's was ok, but there was a bite. I then had Four Roses Yellow Label and to me it tasted like the Bartons but without the bite. I am thinking at least right now, I like the Bulleit better than the 4Roses. but I am learning..... any comments?

Bulleit is made by Four Roses. I think same recipe as the yellow with diffenet yeast, IIRC.
Diageo buy bulk bourbon from FR and then what they do with it is up to them.
Jim Rutledge said they are always asking for more bourbon that they get supplied.

Is Bulleit still 90 proof in the States?


Scott

MikeK
03-03-2008, 08:14
I think that Bulleit is an excellent substute for Four Roses if need be. Not as good, but most definitely recognizable as a Four Roses product.

I often find Bulleit miniatures for 99 cents, which is a great deal. I have found that airation really opens up this brand. If I drink half of a mini, then leave it alone for a week, the rest of the mini is substantially more flavorful.

I was going to do a social experiment at the last festival, but was too lazy to set it up. I was going to fill a 750ml bottle half way with Bulleit and let it 'open up' for a couple weeks. I wanted to then bring it to the Gazebo and do a blind tasting. I'm pretty sure most people would have liked it and then debated which variation of Four Roses it was.

Cheers,

PAspirit1
03-03-2008, 11:54
I just poured some Bulleit.... Loved it..... any comments?

I bought a mini of this about three weeks ago and I liked it alot. I think I like high rye recipes.

cowdery
03-03-2008, 13:28
Four Roses famously makes ten bourbons, using two mash bills and five yeast strains. The Four Roses yellow label contains all ten. Bulleit contains only the five that use the high rye mash bill.

But, yes, the first thought whenever I drink Bulleit is that it is unmistakably Four Roses.

Earlhickey
03-05-2008, 07:46
All the Four Roses products are good but I prefer the Single Barrel. It is my favorite Bourbon. It has a great taste.

fogfrog
03-06-2008, 17:23
Bulleit is made by Four Roses. I think same recipe as the yellow with diffenet yeast, IIRC.
Diageo buy bulk bourbon from FR and then what they do with it is up to them.
Jim Rutledge said they are always asking for more bourbon that they get supplied.

Is Bulleit still 90 proof in the States?


Scott

Bulleit is still 90 proof yes...

Does Jim Rutledge make Bulleit out of 4Roses? I don't understand that comment.

Well tonight I had some more 4Roses yellow label all alone and liked it very much.

My company does have a job in Maysville KY. Maybe I should visit that job and visit some store as well.... anyone know a good stopping place in KY that is enroute from Knoxville?

I guess Saxton is on the border. Otherwise I will go by Lexington, Richmond,Paris.... Maysville

cowdery
03-07-2008, 09:29
Jim Rutledge runs the Four Roses Distillery and the Four Roses Distillery makes Bulleit so, yes, Jim Rutledge makes Bulleit. The mixture they do for Bulleit is unique, in that it is the high rye mash bill fermented with each of the five different yeasts, but it's all the same whiskey. That's the nice thing about them making ten distinct bourbon formulas. They can create an almost unlimited range of different flavor profiles.

Attila
08-11-2008, 05:39
All the Four Roses products are good but I prefer the Single Barrel. It is my favorite Bourbon. It has a great taste.

Really, I was drinking the Yellow label tonight and was trying hard to find something about it I liked and came up with nothing.

Wonderboy
08-11-2008, 06:57
Really, I was drinking the Yellow label tonight and was trying hard to find something about it I liked and came up with nothing.

I used to keep a bottle of yellow label (got it dirt cheap whenever I went to mainland Europe) incase someone asked me for a "JD and coke" (bearing in mind JD costs the equivalent of around $35 here for a 70cl) and every now and then I'd have one over ice. I kind of agree that it always left me a bit nonplussed but if I splashed some coke into it it had a lovely caramelish tang. Much better to mix than JD in my opinion.

mozilla
08-11-2008, 07:18
Really, I was drinking the Yellow label tonight and was trying hard to find something about it I liked and came up with nothing.


The Yellow label is FR's entry level bourbon. It is not intended to be a "blow your head off" drink. They are shooting for the smooth and mellow market. This is a very well balanced and easy to approach bourbon for those who are desiring a laid back situation and 80 proof.

It might be better for you to try their mid to top shelf products...where they are bottling for robust and full flavored products in the 90-100proof range.

OscarV
08-11-2008, 07:25
Mozilla is right.
I think the FR yellow label is real good on the rocks.
The Small Batch however is not a good pour, IMHO.

mozilla
08-11-2008, 07:28
Four Roses famously makes ten bourbons, using two mash bills and five yeast strains.


In addition to the ten options that Jim has to choose from....they also barrel the whisky at three different barrel proofs: 105-110-120.

This bumps the options to 30. Very impressive how versatile Four Roses has positioned themselves. If they could get out from under the Diageo contract....who knows what kind of line-up they could consistently produce. They could eventually be a mini Seagrams if they expanded their warehousing and bottling capabilities.


ps FR has no capacity to bottle Bulleit for Diageo. So, that means they are either shipping them tanker trucks or barrels of bourbon. Also, they are sending Diageo their worst product and keeping the best for their labels.

nor02lei
08-11-2008, 14:46
In addition to the ten options that Jim has to choose from....they also barrel the whisky at three different barrel proofs: 105-110-120.

This bumps the options to 30.

Very interesting Jeff, I have never heard of that.

Leif

Attila
08-11-2008, 17:38
It might be better for you to try their mid to top shelf products...where they are bottling for robust and full flavored products in the 90-100proof range.

I do enjoy Four Roses Super Premium (aka Platinum)