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Vange
03-05-2008, 08:05
I was surfing through old threads and found one about a previous pappy 20 bottling by Julian for at BARREL STRENGTH! I tried desperately to find the thread again, but for some reason I cannot find it. The thread was closed years ago so I couldnt revive it. I can only pray this could happen again, but I doubt it.

My question is, did anyone on this board get some and if so how did taste? How did it compare to pappy 20? Was this something to hold only for special occasions?

Sijan
03-05-2008, 12:21
I seem to recall Binny's having this bottling several years ago...?

Sijan
03-05-2008, 12:23
No, I guess it was Sam's:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1602&highlight=barrel+proof+van+winkle


Here's a photo:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=392&d=1057854037

Would love to get my hands on a bottle of this!

Vange
03-05-2008, 13:54
Wow, nice! If anyone has access to one of these I am highly interested. (doubtful I know!!)

Anyone have tasting notes?

HighTower
03-05-2008, 13:59
If you check out that photo that Dan linked,
You can see a 4/60 in the corner of the bottle. I'm guessing there was only 60 bottles produced.
Sounds about right.
Think about the SB Pappy 23 from last year. One barrel netted 97 bottles and the other only 53, IIRC. This was also after they had been cut to bottling proof!


Scott

Vange
03-05-2008, 14:08
Wow, I'd pay $250 for a bottle of that stuff. I cant imagine the intensity could be matched by many other spirits out there.

jinenjo
03-05-2008, 15:08
It's funny to see how, just five years ago, $100 for a bottle was very high. At least so it seemed by the way some of the posters were balking at the price tag.

I'm guessing a limited release, out of only 60, would net close to three hundred clams these days.

birdman1099
03-05-2008, 15:41
My thoughts exactly !!!!

Vange
03-05-2008, 20:55
Ok, so $300! I'd savor it for years!

NickAtMartinis
03-05-2008, 20:57
Ok, so $300! I'd savor it for years!


I would never purchase a bourbon for $300.

Vange
03-05-2008, 21:00
Pappy 20 is my fav bourbon. A barrelproof? I wouldnt WANT to spend $300, but if the opp arose I think I would regret not pulling the trigger.

NickAtMartinis
03-05-2008, 21:01
Pappy 20 is my fav bourbon. A barrelproof? I wouldnt WANT to spend $300, but if the opp arose I think I would regret not pulling the trigger.


Vange, I don't blame you but I couldn't do it. Maybe as an investment but I haven't purchased a bourbon yet for investment purposes.

shyster512
03-05-2008, 21:06
I would never purchase a bourbon for $300.
Never say never!

NickAtMartinis
03-05-2008, 21:07
Never say never!


I should clarify by stating that I won't purchase a bourbon for $300 in the next ten years.

spun_cookie
03-05-2008, 23:24
You could always pawn off things you don't need to get the funds... extra kidney, pinky toe... the wife's jewlery that she has forgotten about :grin:

I would have to think long and hard about a VW cask strength... $300... I'd do it for a 23 yr :woohoo:

Empty Glass
03-06-2008, 19:48
I'd call Cliff but he's probably still recuperating from the highly successful Pappy23 campaign of 07. I'm still buying the new gold foil P23 so I don't go through too many bottles of the SB.com cache. There kind of special now that VW has eliminated the gold wax seal for the general public. It was still great being part of SB purchase. I'm in for the barrel strength P20 if there is room on the list. This is how it all started last time if I remember.

birdman1099
03-06-2008, 20:06
Can we comission Julian for another bottling?

I'm in for that. whether it is the 20 or the 23.

Who else is in ????

spun_cookie
03-06-2008, 21:16
Hell, I'll be in for a few... say 6 if we do it.

Sijan
03-06-2008, 21:23
I am also very interested, although anything like $300/bottle may be out of my price range in the coming year, as I begin my clerkship in May (along with its roughly 60% cut in salary).

spun_cookie
03-06-2008, 21:31
What did it run a bottle last time? I think they did the Pappy 23 yr.. If we did a 20 yr barrel strength, I do not think it would be $300.

Still not cheep, but worth putting some down for the long future... by my 08/09 purchases for sure....

Stu
03-06-2008, 22:03
I'm always a sucker for a whisky that I'll probably never taste again, especially if it's old enough to vote. I'm in (depending on the final price).

Stu

Mamba
03-07-2008, 00:19
I would buy one or two. I regret missing the SB.com Pappy 23.

Vange
03-07-2008, 09:21
I just wanted to know how the Pappy 20 SB from Sam's tasted and if anyone here tasted it.

FWIW, after being part of the Pappy 23 sb.com group, I think in order to make it worth someone's effort and time there should be a royalty paid as a thank you to whoever organizes something like this in the future. Some $$ a bottle, that way the HUGE burden has some small reward.

birdman1099
03-07-2008, 10:45
Are you volunteering to head this up ????

scopenut
03-07-2008, 11:03
I'm definitely in.

-Kevin

boone
03-07-2008, 11:21
I just wanted to know how the Pappy 20 SB from Sam's tasted and if anyone here tasted it.

FWIW, after being part of the Pappy 23 sb.com group, I think in order to make it worth someone's effort and time there should be a royalty paid as a thank you to whoever organizes something like this in the future. Some $$ a bottle, that way the HUGE burden has some small reward.

I think that's a good idea :grin: :grin:

A lot of work goes into doing that kind of thing. Showing one's appreciation with "extra gratuity" is most excellent :grin: :grin:

We know who did the excellent "organization" is that endeavor. He's probably wanting to tell me to "hush" right now :grin: :grin:

For new folks on the fourm.

SB.com, Pappy 23 was made possible by two people on these forums.

Although, I must step in here and note that we are offering SB.com wearables at this time. The sole purpose that I do this is to show my appreciation for making Straightbourbon.com available to me day and night year after year. Everyone can show thier support for all the work being done on these fourms by buying a item (or two) at this time. More information and procedure is here--->http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=111779&postcount=50 The Bourbon Social, 2008 Sampler.

The SB.com, Single Barrel,Pappy 23 would not have been possible without Straightbourbon.com.

The Kentucky Barrel Society are the chosen one's who actually pick barrels for SB.com. The pay is being honored as one of the "chosen one's" :grin: :grin:

Vange
03-07-2008, 11:31
BettyeJoe, brilliantly said!

I WISH I could volunteer, but I do not have the clout or relationships to get something like this done. That's why I am not implying in ANYWAY for someone to step up and do it. I wasnt trying to stir up interest, I figure if it did happen there would be PLENTY who would want to get their hands on barrel proof SW whisky!

I point a lot of people to this site. This is THE bourbon place on the web.

jvanwinkle
03-07-2008, 12:03
I think we only had about 6 cases in that Sam's 20-year barrel. It was very light.
And sorry, we have so little 20-year available now, there will be no 20-year barrel proof available, even for you nice SB.comers.
Julian

doubleblank
03-07-2008, 12:20
Now that's a thread killer if I ever saw one.

Randy

boone
03-07-2008, 12:22
Now that's a thread killer if I ever saw one.

Randy

Yeah, it sure is, but I hope my reply was not taken in the mode of "barrel purchase" but rather SB.com support.

jeff
03-07-2008, 13:05
Now that's a thread killer if I ever saw one.

Randy

That's it, I'm banning Julian until he changes his mind!

:lol:

Empty Glass
03-07-2008, 13:25
I do see reduced supplies (none) of the P20 in our local stores. I did grab one online last night. I like P20 and wasn't prepared for this drought. I see that Hirsch 16 has doubled in the last year when you can find it (my other favorite). This is not a good trend. It's tough to lose these grand oldies.

camduncan
03-07-2008, 14:06
Dammm.... Pappy 20 is No 2 on my "to find" list whilst in KY for the Sampler.... Maybe I'll find one somewhere else on our US trip.

jeff
03-07-2008, 18:21
Dammm.... Pappy 20 is No 2 on my "to find" list whilst in KY for the Sampler.... Maybe I'll find one somewhere else on our US trip.

Cam,

You can find Pappy 20 easily in KY right now. Let me know if you want me to secure a bottle for you prior to your trip. I think Julian was referring to any future "barrel-proof" bottling.

spun_cookie
03-07-2008, 19:50
OK... lets try some VW 15 yr barrel proof... at this rate we may be on our way to the 12 yr...

How about the 15 Julian? Or what else do you recommend?

HighTower
03-07-2008, 20:46
Lot B - straight outta the barrel..........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:yum:

Scott

jbutler
03-08-2008, 15:15
I am talking with Ryan from Julio's in Westborough Mass to see what kind of options we could have on a cask strength PVW or VW Lot... My thoughts are a multi-bourbon site bottling (SB, BD, & BE.com) to get enough for the barrel.

If I can get enough pull, I will purchase the entire barrel and work on the distribution to those with interested...

Might need to start a new thread once I get the options...

Let you know when I know.
Emerald

Emerald, et al.,

Straightbourbon.com has it's own mechanisms and personnel for doing barrel purchases. Specialty bottling is something that SB.com undertakes as an entity, and we are highly adept at it. Our experience in this regard assures that any bottling that has the Straightbourbon.com name and logo associated with it is of the finest quality.

When we decide to do a bottling, which we typically offer at least once a year, we will advise the user base well in advance; not to gauge interest, but rather to give the limited number of users whom we can accommodate a chance to queue up. Our bottlings are always in great demand, and if you get your hands (and taste buds) on one, you'll understand why.

Addendum: I inadvertently flicked the wrong switch and permanently deleted spun_cookies post. I even managed to do it so thoroughly, I can't retrieve it. Fortunately, it's quoted here in it's entirety. My apologies Emerald.

spun_cookie
03-08-2008, 18:13
Groovy.... I will stay tuned...

bigtoys
03-08-2008, 22:36
I'd be interested in a special SB.com bottling, even if it's not Pappy 20 (although that would be amazing). Maybe 4R?

Stu
03-09-2008, 17:18
Jim,

Being a newbie, last years PVW was the only sb.com bottling I've been in on. However I regret only buying 3 bottles. I plan to remedy that on the next offering. Hope to see you at the sampler.

Stu

jburlowski
03-09-2008, 17:47
If there is any kind of special bottling and it has the Van Winkle name on it... I'm in.

HipFlask
03-09-2008, 21:27
I'm in too. At least 2 bottles. And while I would love it to be a PVW product at barrel proof I'd also be happy with most anything. As was suggested 4r BP sounds mighty good.

gr8erdane
03-10-2008, 06:51
While not wishing to be too much of a spoilsport, I think this thread shows that Julian takes a great interest in what we have to say about his wonderful offerings, and maybe we should be careful of going to the well too often lest it dry up completely. The Pappy 23 barrels were a VERY generous gesture on his part given the price we were allowed to buy them for compared to what they usually would have cost us. I can't help but be reminded that each barrel of SW whiskey that goes into the bottle is one less left for posterity. Until his BT distilled whiskey reaches the proper age, it's the lifeblood of his business and his livelihood. I just think we shouldn't push too hard this soon after the last purchase.

NickAtMartinis
03-10-2008, 10:10
While not wishing to be too much of a spoilsport, I think this thread shows that Julian takes a great interest in what we have to say about his wonderful offerings, and maybe we should be careful of going to the well too often lest it dry up completely. The Pappy 23 barrels were a VERY generous gesture on his part given the price we were allowed to buy them for compared to what they usually would have cost us. I can't help but be reminded that each barrel of SW whiskey that goes into the bottle is one less left for posterity. Until his BT distilled whiskey reaches the proper age, it's the lifeblood of his business and his livelihood. I just think we shouldn't push too hard this soon after the last purchase.


Dane, I like both your post and naivety.;)

Virus_Of_Life
03-11-2008, 11:51
Dane makes a good point and I don't think anyone should be surprised by Julian's response. He stated during the 23yr barrel process it couldn't be BP due to labeling issues.

shyster512
03-15-2008, 19:00
I following this post the other night. For the life of me, I did not see what Nickatmartinis did to get banned. But that is not the purpose of this post nor is it any of my business. I tried to sign up at another bourbon site around the time I signed up for this one (this one is better anyway). But when I put my name, password and other information in, it said I had been banned from the sight. The only problem I have is that I have never been on that sight. I've wondered since that time how I could have been banned never having been on that sight. Anyone know how that would happen?

ThomasH
03-15-2008, 19:03
I had the same problem!

Thomas

spun_cookie
03-15-2008, 19:09
I know which site you are talkig about. Contact the site owner. He has some generic email (----@XXXX.com) addresses (Yahoos, Gmail, etc) blocked. This is due to some overwhelming spam attempts...

The site owner will allow your email address...