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JamesW
04-06-2008, 09:42
The World Whiskey Awards named it "World's Best Bourbon".
SF's World Spirits Competition 2008 awarded it "Double Gold" a few years running now.

I was wondering why Bakers doesn't seem to get any accolades on this site. I am always tempted to buy it but then someone always seems to scare me off doing so. Anyone love this bourbon as much as the critics? Can anyone set me straight once and for all so I don't even think of reaching for it? For $36 it looks very tempting!

Either way I just want to know what it's all about.

bobbyc
04-06-2008, 10:06
We like Baker's fine here, Basil Hayden doesn't fair well mostly a price vs proof issue and nothing to do with quality there.
I believe a search of the bottle of the month for 2007 will yield some information.

Bakers Bottle of the Month 03-06 (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5096)

wskybnt
04-06-2008, 10:20
Bakers, is one of my favorites! I too notice that it doesn't get a lot of attention around here. It doesn't get negative attention, just not much mention. But usually when spoken about it gets love.....

Definitely try it...

T47
04-06-2008, 10:24
Anyone love this bourbon as much as the critics? Can anyone set me straight once and for all so I don't even think of reaching for it? For $36 it looks very tempting! Either way I just want to know what it's all about.

By all means reach for it! I think with a few exceptions you should try them all, every-one's tastes are different.

It's $40 here in WA and I aways keep a bottle on the shelf. The nose has a wonderful brown-sugar cinnamon spice, the taste is creamy with a nice kick of peppery heat and I find the finish flavorful and dry. I think this is a great bottle.

Buy one and share your thoughts! I don't think you will be disappointed.

:toast:

JamesW
04-06-2008, 10:26
By all means reach for it! I think with a few exceptions you should try them all, every-one's tastes are different.

It's $40 here in WA and I aways keep a bottle on the shelf. The nose has a wonderful brown-sugar cinnamon spice, the taste is creamy with a nice kick of peppery heat and I find the finish flavorful and dry. I think this is a great bottle.

Buy one and share your thoughts! I don't think you will be disappointed.

:toast:

That was all the push I needed. I will be buying a bottle today!!!

barturtle
04-06-2008, 11:15
Baker's is readily available, has been on the market for a long time and is a solid bourbon. It's not that it doesn't get any love, it's more that everyone's "been there, done that, got the t-shirt". I still drink it as regularly as many other bourbons and more regularly than a whole lot of them.

Baker's is good, damn good, but it's not the new shiny that's gonna get all of the attention.

CorvallisCracker
04-06-2008, 11:41
I tried Baker's, along with all the JB small batch offerings, back in the early 1990s when they were introduced. Off the bunch, Knob Creek was my favorite, but Bakers was second. Since then I've bought a lot of Knob Creek, but a few bottles of Bakers as well.

spun_cookie
04-06-2008, 11:44
I keep a bottle of this. It is my favorite of teh Beam high end (Knoww, Basil, Baker's and Bookers).

In truth, it will probably be the only one of the four I keep after I finish what I have.

ratcheer
04-06-2008, 17:07
I never cared much for Baker's. It is too dry for my tastes. I do realize that it is a quality crafted whiskey, but it just doesn't suit me.

In that series, I prefer Booker's and Knob Creek. My favorite Beam-produced bourbon, at least of the ones I have tried, is Old Grand Dad 114-proof.

Tim

JamesW
04-06-2008, 19:10
I never cared much for Baker's. It is too dry for my tastes. I do realize that it is a quality crafted whiskey, but it just doesn't suit me.

In that series, I prefer Booker's and Knob Creek. My favorite Beam-produced bourbon, at least of the ones I have tried, is Old Grand Dad 114-proof.

Tim

Thanks Tim... I'm also interested in the OGD114. I see it for about $35 but never tried it. Is that a reasonable price?

HipFlask
04-06-2008, 21:00
ODG 114 for 35 you must be kidding? I recently saw it for 16 and change. It is however very good.

And So is Baker's. It used to be my Favorite back before I found this sight. I really do need to pick up another bottle to compare against my current favorites.

cowdery
04-06-2008, 23:46
Baker's is good, buy it.

Unfortunately, but realistically, new makes news, so people here and elsewhere tend to talk about new things or obscure, hard-to-find things but not perfectly good, even great, whiskeys that are in every liquor store and on every back bar in the country. If I have any complaint about Baker's, or any reason why I don't buy it more often, it would be the price. I have this one friend who, for many years now, whenever we get together for a drink we always drink Baker's.

SBOmarc
04-07-2008, 10:18
Yet we complain when WT and otherbrands drop the proof of our go to pours. Here is a 107 proof pour that is available. I am as guilty as anyone for I rarely chose it when out and have an unopened bottle in my bunker.

We bourbon folk are a strange lot.

Jazzhead
04-07-2008, 10:24
I've had two bad bottles of Bakers and I'm reluctant to invest in more (not "bad" as in defective but bad in that I really didn't like the taste). I do enjoy Knob Creek, though, as well as Beam Black. That's where my Beam-directed dollars will go.

mgilbertva
04-07-2008, 12:21
Bakers used to be one of my favorite pours before I started buying the more obscure and specialty bottlings. I would alternate between Bookers and Bakers.

I always thought it was surprisingly mild for 107pf, very rounded mouthfeel. It's charms are more subtle than Bookers, not surprisingly, but even KC at 100pf is a lot more forward to me. In addition, I don't care for KC because I always thought it was too harsh on the finish. Anyway, I haven't purchased Bakers for a couple years, but I will do so again.

As for OGD 114, if you don't have it, it's a must-buy, although $35 is rather steep. Still, if that was the only price I could get it at, I would do so.

NorCalBoozer
04-07-2008, 12:47
Amazing that i've tried so many bourbons yet not this one. I've been meaning to buy it. Having tried the Knob Creek, Basil Hadens and Bookers, maybe I feel there are other things i'd rather spend $40 on. I really should try it though because i liked the other ones.


Yet we complain when WT and otherbrands drop the proof of our go to pours. Here is a 107 proof pour that is available. I am as guilty as anyone for I rarely chose it when out and have an unopened bottle in my bunker.

We bourbon folk are a strange lot.

Huegeb
04-07-2008, 15:15
The World Whiskey Awards named it "World's Best Bourbon".
SF's World Spirits Competition 2008 awarded it "Double Gold" a few years running now.

I was wondering why Bakers doesn't seem to get any accolades on this site. I am always tempted to buy it but then someone always seems to scare me off doing so. Anyone love this bourbon as much as the critics? Can anyone set me straight once and for all so I don't even think of reaching for it? For $36 it looks very tempting!

Either way I just want to know what it's all about.


Hello James,

I have thought the same way. Before finding this board I drank much of Bakers and liked it very much so. But since I have read this site I haven't even thought of Bakers till now. This is one bourbon that is very good and not spoken of on this site.

Kindest,

Geb

ratcheer
04-07-2008, 16:51
Thanks Tim... I'm also interested in the OGD114. I see it for about $35 but never tried it. Is that a reasonable price?

I didn't pay nearly that much for mine, but it was a few years ago. I bought a bottle in Kentucky in 2005 for around $23 and one in Atlanta a few years before that for $22. It is not sold in my state.

Tim

ratcheer
04-07-2008, 16:54
As for OGD 114, if you don't have it, it's a must-buy, although $35 is rather steep. Still, if that was the only price I could get it at, I would do so.

True. Even though that price sounds high, OGD 114 is better than most $35 bourbons I can think of.

Tim

jeff
04-07-2008, 17:17
Baker's is my favorite Jim Beam bourbon. It's slightly on the sweet side with just enough wood to balance nicely. It's like maple candy in a bottle! :yum:

Barrel_Proof
04-07-2008, 17:27
One of the highlights of the past three Samplers for me has been enjoying a pour of Baker's with Jerry Dalton. Like Jeff and several others here, it is my favorite Beam bottling.

I hope Jerry will be around again this year, even though not in the role of Master Distiller.

jburlowski
04-08-2008, 17:51
FWIW,I find Bakers to be one of the best of the Beam "small batch" collection. Only problem I have is when I see it and order it in a bar, the bartender invariably reaches for the Makers....

BourbonJoe
04-08-2008, 17:57
I think I liked it last time I drank some. I don't drink Beam products very often because I like many others better (except for the old stuff). But that's just me.
Joe :usflag:

JamesW
04-09-2008, 18:22
I finally picked up a bottle today and am enjoying a good pour presently. I agree with Ratcheer that this is a very dry bourbon which might explain why whiskey mag and others rate it so high since it's closer in dryness to a scotch or other whiskey. I find it reminds me a lot of JBB-- just a higher proof. Still, it is a very fine offering with a sweet nose, sweet opening and then a very spicy burn with a slight lingering of sweetness at the end (very slight). All in all a good bourbon. I won't speak yet on whether I'd buy another until I've enjoyed a good portion of the bottle as I need to warm up to most new offerings.

Eggman
05-03-2008, 23:11
Howdy,

JBB is my favorite, but I'll have to put Baker's on my "must sample" list. Is it good with Diet Coke?

Eggman

JamesW
05-04-2008, 19:40
Howdy,

JBB is my favorite, but I'll have to put Baker's on my "must sample" list. Is it good with Diet Coke?

Eggman

Dunno, I drink my whiskey neat or with some ice if it's a Stagg. If you're mixing with Coke I'd stick to some of the cheaper stuff (But no slouch) like Weller Special Reserve ($13) or Weller Antique ($19). I'm not knocking mixers but I think $40 for a Baker's is high priced for a mixer.

DowntownD
05-04-2008, 23:16
I absolutely love Booker's, with just a couple of ice cubes and a teeny bit of water.

I haven't tried Baker's yet, but it sounds like I should. Great thread and discussion.

RWBadley
05-23-2008, 18:30
I just found a dusty Bakers 107 and brought it home. Anybody familiar with the batch coding? This one states B-85-001

bobbyc
05-23-2008, 18:50
I think you found one of the very first batch.

Gillman
05-23-2008, 19:56
I think so too (the plainish white label would give it away). If so, this is the best Baker's. I recall tasting a sample kindly offered by Tim Sousley, and have had it on other occasions. It had a velvety texture and a vigorous yet refined taste. Rather better than subsequent bottlings, IMO.

Gary

RWBadley
05-24-2008, 00:43
I think so too (the plainish white label would give it away).

Gary

Yes that's it.

So, I'm doing a quick side by side with Old Rip 10 107. The 10 bottle is 2/3 full the last few years so has aired a bit. The 10 nose is initially more open and malty with sweet vanilla maple.

The Bakers 107 is more closed in as it's just getting unleashed. Dry. Cedar. The initial flavors show the Bakers potential.

After 15 minutes time, The Rip has softened a bit and shows more wood. Still sweet. Full palate. Medium finish.

The Bakers has hints of licorice now. Sandlewood. Bubblegum. Sweat. Leather. Spearmint. Lavender. You all might have more Bourbon type descriptors, I gotta go off what I know.

At the 1/2 hour. The Bakers has come into it's own. These are both excellent Bourbon. Bakers holds body better and has more deep complexity. The Rip is a sweet young girl with it's seeming freshness, but the Bakers really holds interest. Less fusil even than the Rip, which surprises me a little, cuz the rip is dam smooth.

Both made me chase to the bottom of the glass, so we all win ;-) Soundtrack for this adventure provided by Junior Wells.

Cheers,

RW

d_nelly78
05-25-2008, 15:17
This has been my favorite bourbon since I started going off the beaten path. I enjoyed a few bottles of it priced wrong at the Class Six on post. They fixed themselves and have it over 40$ now. It was a great value at $25. I should have bought up all their stock.:smiley_acbt:

Eggman
05-25-2008, 23:24
Howdy,

Money is really tight these days. I can't wait to sample a 5th of Baker's. From what I'm reading around here it sounds almost like Baker's is really JBB, but delivered to us straight from the barrel to the bottle. This might explain it's higher proof rating.

Eggman

PS: In 3 more weeks I plan to acquire my first bottle of Baker's. I'll check back with my review then.

cowdery
05-26-2008, 15:52
Having followed some of your other posts, Eggman, I suggest you get off the Jim Beam train. Nothing wrong with the Beam products, but you're basically just drinking variations on the same whiskey. Try some Buffalo Trace products (Buffalo Trace, Old Charter, Eagle Rare, W. L. Weller, etc.) or some from Heaven Hill (Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, Old Fitzgerald) or Brown-Forman (Old Forester, Woodford Reserve). Nothing against Beam, but you've been through their portfolio pretty thoroughly without even dipping a toe into the other producers.

Eggman
05-27-2008, 16:14
Howdy,

Baker's isn't available at my local liquor store, so I had the mgr special order a 5th for me. It'll be in my hands in 48 hours or so. :)
Cowdery: Your observation is mostly accurate. However I've enjoyed one or two bottles of WT101 since last Summer, which isn't a Beam product. Your point is taken about learning to experiment. I'll keep ya'll posted.

Eggman

drli
05-28-2008, 21:31
if available to you.. i would go for the 3 bottle sampler offered by CostCo. One bottle of each, Basil Hayden's, Bakers, Bookers.... all 3 for $99.99.

cheap...

Eggman
05-30-2008, 11:41
Howdy,

OK, after two samplings of Baker's I wanted to share some first impressions. Understanding readers must bear in mind that I'm a tenderfoot when it comes to Bourbon, but here goes..

NOSE: Raisins, Nuts perhaps some Leather
MOUTH: A pleasant mix of Pepper (The Pepper observation is one of just two I noticed immediately), nuts and Maple. This is difficult as there is so much complexity compared to anything I've had previously. It's hearty, food-like. Oh, yes and the burn. It's there, but even I can handle it.

FINISH: Since I take my bourbon with varying amounts of Diet Coke (In this case equal parts Bourbon and Diet Coke), I'll skip this one. I'm just not qualified.

Two common observations about Baker's proved accurate: The Burn and the Pepper flavor. Both were a pleasant suprise. Baker's cost me just $34 and is worth it. I noticed that the higher alcohol content (53%) doesn't jump out the way one might expect. The flavor of Baker's borders on being chameleon-like with it's ever-changing nuances. This redneck is impressed.
Overall, I'll rank Baker's as a 2 thumbs up. More later.

Eggman

jwrussell
06-05-2008, 12:50
The World Whiskey Awards named it "World's Best Bourbon".
SF's World Spirits Competition 2008 awarded it "Double Gold" a few years running now.

I was wondering why Bakers doesn't seem to get any accolades on this site. I am always tempted to buy it but then someone always seems to scare me off doing so. Anyone love this bourbon as much as the critics? Can anyone set me straight once and for all so I don't even think of reaching for it? For $36 it looks very tempting!

Either way I just want to know what it's all about.


I love the stuff. I always try to have a bottle around. I find the nose on this bourbon to be one of the best around.

B1bomber
06-05-2008, 13:19
Love Bakers here also. I actually think it's one of the most underrated. Put it against others in the more expensive $50ish range and it holds up more than okay. I actually prefer it over Booker's.

mozilla
06-05-2008, 17:04
Sorry to say that I have sworn off the Beam family of products. Their philosophy is just not "my speed". I will do my best to abide by my own decision for the future, though it is tough sometimes while out, because Beam is in the well at alot of establishments in Austin. I will still buy any ND label(dusty) that Beam now owns, those are real special. I don't consider that going agianst my grudge. I saw their new marketing slogan, it says something about 'what's inside that counts'.......well, I say, they should check what's inside a bottle of Crow, that might tell them a little more about themselves than they want to know.

So, I say "no love" for Bakers.

Sorry, for the rant.