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whiskeyme
04-16-2008, 20:11
What can you tell me about this Bourbon. Is it worth the price? Is it a Rye Recipe? BevMo add says:

Big, confident, high class with a glorious piece of heritage. Perfectly balanced with a terrific vanilla nose and a hint of sweetness. Aged 4-6 years in small batch barrels. A magnificent whiskey!

http://www.bevmo.com/115images/68397.jpg

cowdery
04-17-2008, 09:54
Do a search here and you may find specific comments. The producer is not a distiller, meaning it's bulk whiskey purchased from one of the usual suspects. My personal prejudice is to stick to products where I know who made them.

whiskeyme
04-20-2008, 10:06
Please pardon my ignorance. But what exactly does this mean and why is bad?
"The producer is not a distiller, meaning it's bulk whiskey purchased from one of the usual suspects."

Does it mean that they purchase Bourbons from several distilleries and blend? If not, then how?

cowdery
04-20-2008, 19:24
It means they buy whiskey from one or more distillers. Generally they don't mix whiskey from different distilleries, but they could. These days you're lucky if you can get one company to sell it to you, supplies are so tight, let alone more than one. Anyway, they buy it and bottle it.

squire
04-21-2008, 21:24
It also means you can buy the exact same whiskey from the producer under their label and pay a lot less.

mgilbertva
04-21-2008, 21:57
I wonder why the bourbon industry doesn't follow the Scottish model. They have independent bottlers that buy single malt whisky from distillers and then age, bottle and sell it themselves, companies like Gordon & MacPhail, Cadenheads, and Duncan Taylor. But they tell you where they get their whisky. More, given the differing warehousing, proofs and even barreling, it's a great service. Too bad the U.S. doesn't follow these practices.

cowdery
04-22-2008, 09:54
The Scottish model exists because 90% of scotch sold is blends and it takes whiskey from many distilleries to make a good blend. Since American whiskey is generally sold straight, there isn't that built-in reason for whiskey to change hands in bulk form.

boss302
04-23-2008, 22:37
Do a search here and you may find specific comments. The producer is not a distiller, meaning it's bulk whiskey purchased from one of the usual suspects. My personal prejudice is to stick to products where I know who made them.

I think it is one of the Bardstown distilleries, if I'm not mistaken.

AVB
04-25-2008, 10:56
It isn't even bourbon either. I'm not saying that's bad, but a tad pricey for whiskey.

mgilbertva
04-25-2008, 12:56
Same for the US 1 Rye - it's quite good, especially for a young (3yo) Rye - but overpriced.

boss302
04-28-2008, 09:08
Same for the US 1 Rye - it's quite good, especially for a young (3yo) Rye - but overpriced.


I've seen these in my local liquor stores. They have an "American Whiskey" that is a 4-year small batch.

According to the labels of the Michter's Bourbon and Rye that I've seen, they say 10-year Single Barrel. Is this a different product than what you were referring to?

cowdery
04-28-2008, 11:15
They have a range of products but I don't know the exact portfolio. They do have a 10-year-old rye that's very good. They also have a bourbon and rye that, I believe, are NAS. And they have an American whiskey (i.e., not a bourbon or rye).

whiskeyme
04-29-2008, 03:04
I'm again sorry for my lack of knowledge. But, what does NAS mean?

gothbat
04-29-2008, 04:31
...what does NAS mean?

No Age Statement, I believe. Not sure I've ever seen a Michters product like that but then again I don't see their products often.
I tried the 3 year old rye, although it was better than the OO I had it was ultimately a waste for $45. I really want to try the 10 year rye but now I'm wary, especially at those prices.

boss302
04-30-2008, 15:51
No Age Statement, I believe. Not sure I've ever seen a Michters product like that but then again I don't see their products often.
I tried the 3 year old rye, although it was better than the OO I had it was ultimately a waste for $45. I really want to try the 10 year rye but now I'm wary, especially at those prices.


It saddens me to see someone capitalizing so ruthlessly on the legacy of the sad remains of the Pennsylvania Whiskey distilling tradition...