Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
Based on your post, if I see it, I'll probably try it.
How new is it? When should I expect to see it in Northern Indiana?
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
Hmmmm. Not sure I'd want to spring for a 750. Maybe if a smaller bottle comes along.
When I first saw the title of your post, I thought perhaps Red Stag represented Beam's move up-market to challenge the really expensive niche whiskeys such as PVW or Buffalo Trace's Antique Collection. In my view, their premium brands don't do that. Maybe it's meant to compete against some of the experimentals BT is making.
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
It's brand new, but it should be at retail very soon if it isn't already.
I don't know a retail price, but I expect it will be more than JB white but less than black. If that's not where it is, or the same as one of them, they're making a mistake. It's Jim Beam white plus flavoring, so that's where it should be.
As for who it's positioned against, I would say they're going after the drinker of flavored vodka, but they're really on new ground here. It may also play in the same space as Wild Turkey American Honey, although it's not a liqueur.
A lot of people here won't like this. I'm not a big cocktails guy, but I like them well enough to like this. Ditto with liqueurs, although I don't drink straight liqueurs very often and even this is close to being too sweet.
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
I suppose it was inevitable. Like Absolut and Bacardi, I'm sure we'll be seeing all manner of flavored Bourbons soon, from coconut to peach to chocolate. Hey, if someone wants to drink it, fine by me; it just isn't my thing.
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
I'm sure it will be over here with a different name in a year or two.
The right proof too!
Beam won't be mentioned though.
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
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Originally Posted by
sku
I suppose it was inevitable. Like Absolut and Bacardi, I'm sure we'll be seeing all manner of flavored Bourbons soon, from coconut to peach to chocolate. Hey, if someone wants to drink it, fine by me; it just isn't my thing.
Isn't there Philips Union out your way? (And for that matter Southern Comfort!)
However, having tasted Sweet Lucy, I have to agree with your last sentence!
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
Any predictions on the filing date of a trade-dress complaint by Buffalo Trace/Sazerac over the use of antlers and "Stag"?
Any of our attorneys care to weigh in?
Likelihood of confusion?
Secondary meaning?
Similarity of market or distribution channels?
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
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Originally Posted by
Dr. François
Any predictions on the filing date of a trade-dress complaint by Buffalo Trace/Sazerac over the use of antlers and "Stag"?
Any of our attorneys care to weigh in?
Likelihood of confusion?
Secondary meaning?
Similarity of market or distribution channels?
I had only read the post title and not even seen the bottle before I was thinking this.
Re: Red Stag by Jim Beam.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Dr. François
Any predictions on the filing date of a trade-dress complaint by Buffalo Trace/Sazerac over the use of antlers and "Stag"?
Any of our attorneys care to weigh in?
Likelihood of confusion?
Secondary meaning?
Similarity of market or distribution channels?
BT will wait until it gets marketed wide enough and Beam has spent some cash getting the name out to the general public before filing the trade-name infringment lawsuit. Sure the lawyers at Beam are prepared for this. Usually have to run this through legal before porceeding (marketing & selling). But who knows - lawyers aren't always the brightest (sorry Doc, know to many lawyers who think too highly of themselves and make major mistakes)
TJ