I think K & L Wines is a great retailer. They have auctions I've bid in and their auction program adds value to their business. Everyone losing in that auction can be entirely satisfied that they could have bought the bottle by bidding higher than all others - what system is more fair than that? In the generally secretive liquor business, this was a shining beacon of clarity. The auction price system is used for many commodities on a wholesale basis and is generally considered to lower prices overall by removing barriers to the supply/demand process.
You want cheap hooch? Buy cheap hooch - it's readily available. You want the single bottle available from one retailer? Pay the piper. I'd bet K&L donates the excess profits to charity because the publicity over the auction was worth a darn sight more than the hammer price.
It seems this thread has made it's way to the K&L Spirits Journal blog and the company is in fact donating the additional profit from the auction to a local (unidentified to my knowledge) charity.
I suppose it is a good thing. But the point made by SKU in this thread and reemphasized by David Driscoll at the end of his blog is probably the real take home message.
So, as noted in the recent purchases thread, I managed to get a bottle of the Jeff Ocean after all. I even paid (a little) less than the $200 retail price that had been bandied about.
Now I am curious to know a little more about it. There is not any info I can find on the Jefferson bourbon website. Since Jefferson Bourbon/Mclain & Kyne "distillery" are I presume in reality a bottler (maybe somebady else is doing that step too?) or marketer and not a distiller (I think the name now is Mclain & Kyne, Ltd and the distillery part is no longer in the name) they obviously get it from somebody else.
I was curious if there was any information on the source of the Jefferson Ocean. I am guessing it is not much different from where ever they source their regular bourbon but I was curious if in this case they got brand new make spirit in the barrel or if what they sourced had already been aged a bit.
Presumably the company doesn't typically get unaged barrels of whiskey as they also don't have their own warehouses and are bottling bourbon distilled AND aged elsewhere. But the Ocean must be a little different since it was aged at least part of time on board the ship. I suppose if they are working with a distiller to buy bourbon it isn't that big a stretch to get a few barrels of white dog from the distillery to play with (the pictures I have seen always show only three barrels).
Does Jefferson/Mclain & Kyne get bourbon from many different sources? I presume the answer is yes as the Presidential Select is reportedly from S-W (Or Bernheim juice aged at S-W depending on who you believe!) and the rye is from Canada while younger bourbon must be from somewhere else. Or do they have a known and ongoing relationship with one or more distilleries?
Does anybody have any knowledge about the source? Really just curious to know who made the Ocean bourbon. I also keep seeing references in the publicity blurbs to it being "blended" in Kentucky rather than distilled which strikes me as a little curious as well. Is it a blend of several distilleries? A blend of mash bills from Four Roses?
Whatever it is, it isn't going to stop me from trying it! But it would be interesting to know if the information is out there.
Has anyone tried the Ocean yet?
review in which he was ever so slightly underwhelmed! He can of course elaborate if he would like should he happen by.
I had planned to give it a try last night but I was the host to 16 people for Thanksgiving last night and never got the chance. It was family of course and not necessarily the people who might most appreciate trying it.