Re: Average Pappy prices?
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Rockefeller
If the highest I would ever pay for a PVW15 at a bar is $15, then I should also be willing to pay up to ~$190/bottle - given each 750ml bottle has a little over twelve 2oz servings. This obviously does not take into account all types of factors (like gratuity, opportunity costs of buying other bottles, the value of being in a bar atmosphere with friends, how drunk you were at the time of purchase, etc.) but you get my point.
I do consider this when ordering drinks at a bar or deciding to buy a bottle, but as you disclaim, it's not an even comparison. My formula is basically:
((Most I would pay for 2oz at a bar/restaurant under normal circumstances) x 12.5) / 2 = Most I will pay for a bottle
In this case, I'm with you on the max $15 for a pour of PVW15 at a bar. Dividing by two is the "service and atmosphere" factor. So the most I would pay for a bottle of PVW15 is $93.75. I passed on it yesterday for $99, but I didn't break out the calculator; I just knew that was more than I thought it was worth. I now know why the old fogies around here feel like, as it was usually $60 - $80 in the past releases.
Apparently the distributor round these parts (Republic) decided to hike their VW prices by 50% this year, and the retailers have responded in kind.
Re: Average Pappy prices?
Here in Phoenix, AZ ---
2011 -- I had just started my bourbon adventure and noticed ORVW 10/107 for $39.99. Didn't take the jump though, as I didn't feel I'd be able to fully 'appreciate' anything that high end. There were also many bottles of Lot B to be had, and they were either $45 or $49.99 if memory serves.
2012 -- ORVW is now $44.99. Didn't see any Lot B's. Will keep an eye out though.
Re: Average Pappy prices?
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Originally Posted by
Trey Manthey
I do consider this when ordering drinks at a bar or deciding to buy a bottle, but as you disclaim, it's not an even comparison. My formula is basically:
((Most I would pay for 2oz at a bar/restaurant under normal circumstances) x 12.5) / 2 = Most I will pay for a bottle
In this case, I'm with you on the max $15 for a pour of PVW15 at a bar. Dividing by two is the "service and atmosphere" factor. So the most I would pay for a bottle of PVW15 is $93.75. I passed on it yesterday for $99, but I didn't break out the calculator; I just knew that was more than I thought it was worth. I now know why the old fogies around here feel like, as it was usually $60 - $80 in the past releases.
Apparently the distributor round these parts (Republic) decided to hike their VW prices by 50% this year, and the retailers have responded in kind.
I forgot to note in my argument that this presents an interest conundrum because absolutely no bar in NYC would serve PVW15 for only $15. A closer starting point for PVW15 in NYC is probably $25+. We also need to factor in the idea that by-and-by, the price of PVW isn't going anywhere but up. I personally would have picked up that bottle for $99 because I literally wouldn't be able to buy if for less than $99 anywhere else and probably won't be able to for the rest of my life (insert dramatic music here).
Re: Average Pappy prices?
FYI, my local swanky bar has upped their prices for a 3oz serving to:
Lot B - $40
PVW15 - $50
PVW23 - $70 (a relative steal)
For comparison, a MM is $12.50
Re: Average Pappy prices?
Halifax I am one of those who is walking away...Done..
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Held a bottle of 15 in my hand last year but passed on it since the $80 price tag seemed, at the time, to be a little too salty. Meh. Chalk me up as another who is fine with walking away. Plenty of other fish in the whiskey sea ...:rolleyes:
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The prices are only high at retail. From Sazerac, the price for a bottle of PVW15 has gone up less than $10/bottle over the past 4 or 5 years. Blame distributors and retailers, not JVW/BT.
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I didn't notice a massive price jump in WNY (other than on the 23), but it was much harder to find any of the VW's than it was last year. A manager at one large store told me that the owner held back his allotment on the VWFRR, 20 and 23 for friends, and the 10/107, Lot B, and 15 were gone the same day they received them. Last year, this store had the 15 on the shelf for a few days and the Old Rip and Lot B were available for at least 2-3 weeks.
In a loosely related note, I stumbled across a fairly substantial supply of Weller 12 today at $22/bottle...less than their price on OWA.
Re: Average Pappy prices?
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Originally Posted by
frayed99
I didn't notice a massive price jump in WNY (other than on the 23), but it was much harder to find any of the VW's than it was last year. A manager at one large store told me that the owner held back his allotment on the VWFRR, 20 and 23 for friends, and the 10/107, Lot B, and 15 were gone the same day they received them. Last year, this store had the 15 on the shelf for a few days and the Old Rip and Lot B were available for at least 2-3 weeks.
In a loosely related note, I stumbled across a fairly substantial supply of Weller 12 today at $22/bottle...less than their price on OWA.
Interesting report on VW availability in your area. Nice Weller 12 find! Bunker my friend, bunker.
