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    Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    As a noob, I was hesitant to post a seemingly pedestrian question, but I've seen some similar queries lately so I thought I would ask.

    If you saw my intro post over in the "new to SB" forum you might remember that I got my start 10-12 years ago, was a very infrequent drinker, and that Woodford was my high end bourbon. (Makers was my regular).
    When I started to branch out last year and explore the wide world that's out there, I still had a bottle of 10+ year old Woodford on the shelf. After spending some time with the likes of Elmer T, EH Taylor Small Batch and SB, and numerous others, I went back to that bottle of old Woodford. I did so in the context of the many online reviews and commentary from here that was less than kind to Woodford. I found that though my old bottle was not as good as some of the new bourbons I was enjoying, it wasn't has horrible as the general opinion I had been reading. This could be my inexperienced palate talking. However, at a couple recent parties I attended with very limited options, Woodford was the best available so I gave it a shot. In both cases, the newer bottles did not seem to be much at all like my older one. Hard to say for sure since it wasn't side by side, but both times the new bottle tasted the same and was different from that old and now empty bottle.

    Am I nuts or is there anything to this?

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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    I am not a WR fan at all, but it is my understanding that the original bottlings of WR were basically selected barrels of Old Forester and nothing else. Now WR is a blend of OF (primarily) and WR (a little bit). Some people say the WR distilled in those copper stills is the reason for the taste difference. I prefer straight OF to WR myself.

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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    Quote Originally Posted by flahute View Post


    When I started to branch out last year and explore the wide world that's out there, I still had a bottle of 10+ year old Woodford on the shelf. After spending some time with the likes of Elmer T, EH Taylor Small Batch and SB, and numerous others, I went back to that bottle of old Woodford. I did so in the context of the many online reviews and commentary from here that was less than kind to Woodford. I found that though my old bottle was not as good as some of the new bourbons I was enjoying, it wasn't has horrible as the general opinion I had been reading. This could be my inexperienced palate talking. However, at a couple recent parties I attended with very limited options, Woodford was the best available so I gave it a shot. In both cases, the newer bottles did not seem to be much at all like my older one.

    Am I nuts or is there anything to this?

    Steve
    Well, yes. You probably are nuts. It is widely shared trait of SBers who tend to have OCD when it comes to bourbon. I don't think Woodford is "horrible." It is just disappointing for the price so I haven't had any since 2010 according to my notes. But you really and truly are allowed to have a different opinion. I don't know if Woodford has changed but I am almost certain that palates, like the climate, are always changing. What tastes great on Tuesday can disappoint on Wednesday. Sometimes you are just forced to keep tasting until you get it right. Sometimes tasting bourbon is a multiple choice quiz on which the right answer is D--All of the above.
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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    This is a deep issue that deserves further consideration, at least a couple more bottles.
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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    If your 10+ year old bottle had been opened, I'd expect it to have changed from the air time over the years. One thing to consider.

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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    Quote Originally Posted by luther.r View Post
    If your 10+ year old bottle had been opened, I'd expect it to have changed from the air time over the years. One thing to consider.
    If it was sealed (had it's top on) for ten years how would air make a difference?
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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    Quote Originally Posted by smknjoe View Post
    If it was sealed (had it's top on) for ten years how would air make a difference?
    I guess it depends how much air was in the bottle vs. whiskey. For example, I found a bottle in the back of my cabinet last week with 1" left of 2009 PVW15 that had been open about a year and a half. It was really bad, undrinkable, from the air. I had to pour it out.

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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    The old bottle was 1/2 empty when I went back to it for comparison so it had been exposed to a lot of air time.

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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    Opening a bottle injects new oxygen (doesn't take but a little) that will cause a slight change we would notice but most wouldn't, and even some of us prefer the slight oxidation caused by time.
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    Re: Did Woodford Reserve used to be better?

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    Opening a bottle injects new oxygen (doesn't take but a little) that will cause a slight change we would notice but most wouldn't, and even some of us prefer the slight oxidation caused by time.
    I've definitely noticed that on some of my newer and current bourbons and I assumed that had something to do with the different flavor of the old Woodford. It seemed too different for that to be the only explanation, but then again, I have a lot to learn.

    Regarding the point about quality to price ratio, I hear that loud and clear.

 

 

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