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    Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    I had a dilemma today and wondered what the rest of you would have done in my situation. I happened upon a liquor store with excellent prices on many bourbons (Pappy 15 for $37!!) and ryes. I was torn between getting the Thomas Handy Sazerac Rye (132.7 proof) and the Sazerac 18 (90 proof). Having never sampled either of them, I couldn't decide between high octane on the one hand and age on the other. The Handy Sazerac oddly had no age statement but surely must be chock full flavor at 132 proof. The Sazerac 18 is only 90 proof (pretty much as low as I like to go) but after 18 years in the barrel must have tons of extraordinary flavor as well. I loved Baby Saz, Rittenhouse BIB and Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye but am dying to try these Sazeracs. Each one cost $51 and I couldn't afford both, so I ended up leaving empty handed until I could get some feedback from you folks. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    When faced with the same decision, I picked the Handy and was not disappointed.
    "A person can work up a mean, mean thirst after a hard day of nothing much at all . . . "

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    Hey Uncle, as far as the Handy and the Saz 18 goes.
    Get the first release of the Saz 18.
    How do you identify it?
    Beats me, maybe someone will chime in.
    ovh

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    Uncle, buy all of that Pappy 15 at $37. Then, buy all of the Handy at $51. Then sir, go buy a Lottery Ticket. It's your day.
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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    I have enjoyed both and can't say anything bad about Saz 18.
    I would still buy the Handy.
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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    You just can't go wrong. I haven't had the most recent releases, but in the past, I've loved them both.

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    same dilemma TOO....but i couldn't pay that much for 90 proof.....(lottery, yes, needed).

    i chose octane...and incredible flavor...handy! one of the best bottles of whiskey i ever had!
    HUP!

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarV View Post
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    Get the first release of the Saz 18.
    How do you identify it?
    Beats me, maybe someone will chime in.
    I think it has the year 2000 hand written on the label.

    Roger

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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Rughi View Post
    I think it has the year 2000 hand written on the label.

    Roger
    Sorry if I wasn't supposed to find that funny, but I didn't know if the question nor the answer were supposed to be serious so it just hit me as pretty damn funny! Yes, I think you are right Roger the first Sazerac18 year has a bottle date of 2000 on it.

    And IIRC, the 132.7 proof Handy was the first release, 2006. Yes, I just checked my bunker and it is. I'd buy it, I'd buy all of it they have for that matter. I understand the budget dilemma so given the choice of Handy or Saz18 at $51, I'd go Handy especially the first issue.

    And Pappy15 at $37?!? I'm sorry, but you gotta get the credit card out on that one! You will not find it at that price for long and I really fear that is 1/2 of what it will be going for in the near future.
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    Re: Thomas Handy Sazerac vs. Sazerac 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Virus_Of_Life View Post
    Sorry if I wasn't supposed to find that funny, but I didn't know if the question nor the answer were supposed to be serious so it just hit me as pretty damn funny! Yes, I think you are right Roger the first Sazerac18 year has a bottle date of 2000 on it.
    My memory wasn't so clear on it myself, and my bottle is in the part of the bunker that's not easy to access, so I wasn't in any hurry to dig it out. On second reading, I think Oscar may have meant the first era of Saz 18, not just the first year. I think that the VW rye and the old Saz were each blended with Medley whiskey and tanked the same year, so this spreadsheet and the link in the post by Steve should be helpful.

    Anyway, from my faulty memory, these are the years for the BTACs

    2000- Stagg
    2000- ER "17"
    2000-2003 Saz "18" First Era
    2000-2004 Weller "19" (never seen an 03 or 04)

    2004- Saz "18" Second Era
    2005- Larue
    2006- Handy

    2009-Ridgemont Reserve Barrel Proof
    2009-Fleischmann's Barrel Proof Rye
    2009- Very Very Olde Barton Bond (8yo)

    Okay, some of that is wishful thinking.

    Roger
    Last edited by Rughi; 01-13-2009 at 08:10.

 

 

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