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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by spun_cookie View Post

    There are two versions. The crystal version, usually found clean, but the Old Forester is crystal, and the glass version, usually have a logos.

    You can tell the difference by the sharpness at the lip. The round lip is glass, the square lip is crystal.

    Is there really any difference as far as the tasting of the bourbon. I have seen some tasting notes with both these glasses side by side and they had different notes for each glass. How can the material, or the shape of the lip of the glass really change the flavor of the bourbon? To stay on track with the thread, I got the OFRB glass with my set the other day. I likey.
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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by spun_cookie View Post
    And Merlin, we need to get together for drinks... you can sample though my glencairns with any bourbon you choose...
    I appreciate the offer, but with life the way it is right now, I don't get out much.

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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by sotnsipper View Post
    Is there really any difference as far as the tasting of the bourbon. I have seen some tasting notes with both these glasses side by side and they had different notes for each glass. How can the material, or the shape of the lip of the glass really change the flavor of the bourbon? To stay on track with the thread, I got the OFRB glass with my set the other day. I likey.
    There can be a remarkable diff. The Crystal will open up certain charicteristics that the glass will not.

    This Christmas, i geve my dad two glasses of bourbon. One in the crystal and one glass glencairn. The Crystal opened up the 20 yr Old St Nick where is was hot, almost bitter. The nose was trash and so was the taste.

    In the Glass it was smooth. Nice nose, very appoachable. Good bourbon.

    I then told him it was the same bourbon. You really could not tell.

    That has been the biggest diff with one bourbon to date, but the WTAS, WT8yr, Old Crow 10/86 from 1968 all had very noticable diffrences to the point of good vs bad boubon.


    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin_AZ View Post
    I appreciate the offer, but with life the way it is right now, I don't get out much.
    Merlin, no worries. If you ever get into Vail, drop me a line. You are always welcome.

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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by spun_cookie View Post
    There can be a remarkable diff. The Crystal will open up certain charicteristics that the glass will not.

    This Christmas, i geve my dad two glasses of bourbon. One in the crystal and one glass glencairn. The Crystal opened up the 20 yr Old St Nick where is was hot, almost bitter. The nose was trash and so was the taste.

    In the Glass it was smooth. Nice nose, very appoachable. Good bourbon.

    I then told him it was the same bourbon. You really could not tell.

    That has been the biggest diff with one bourbon to date, but the WTAS, WT8yr, Old Crow 10/86 from 1968 all had very noticable diffrences to the point of good vs bad boubon.


    Merlin, no worries. If you ever get into Vail, drop me a line. You are always welcome.
    I'm sorry Em, but I just can't buy the different glass composition thing. Two Glencairns, with the only difference being that one is crystal, and one is glass? And, there is a "remarkable diff." in the tastes of the same whiskey in the two? Can't wrap my head around that one. I just can't see why this would be so. Are you sure that you didn't drop a little Bourbon Supreme in the bad glass, and Pappy 15 in the good glass?
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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinjoe View Post
    I'm sorry Em, but I just can't buy the different glass composition thing. Two Glencairns, with the only difference being that one is crystal, and one is glass? And, there is a "remarkable diff." in the tastes of the same whiskey in the two? Can't wrap my head around that one. I just can't see why this would be so. Are you sure that you didn't drop a little Bourbon Supreme in the bad glass, and Pappy 15 in the good glass?




    The crystal really opens up a drink much faster due to all the rough edges..... you get very fast oxidation and you can send off more "negative" scents some times. Not always the case. I love many bourbon in the crystal, like the Julio’s Weller. It opens so damn nice in the crystal...

    But, I can understand your skepticism... so I recommend we all concern at my place (did I mention it is around 70 deg, blue skies and lovely) and do some blind tasting. if we can get at least 9, that would be a good statistical base, but 18 would be even better

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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    I was just doing research on these for my Examiner column and learned that Glencairn Crystal specializes in engraved glassware. They're essentially a high-end advertising specialties company more than a glassware company. They just happened to get lucky with this particular design.
    Luck?!? Actually, (thinking...) there is some luck involved from the creative aspect, but I wouldn't state it as dumb-luck. That glass has very similar properties to Reidel's Cognac XO and also their Vinum Tulip. I use the Glencairn in-between those two and a few others for pulling out various components, but i have to say that the Glencairn is the most versatile glass in the line-up, due to it having broad mid-range capabilities. BB

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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinjoe View Post
    I just can't buy the different glass composition thing. Two Glencairns, with the only difference being that one is crystal, and one is glass? And, there is a "remarkable diff." in the tastes of the same whiskey in the two? Can't wrap my head around that one. I just can't see why this would be so.

    I am with Joe on this one. Cannot see how crystal vs. glass can dramatically change the taste.


    Quote Originally Posted by spun_cookie View Post
    The crystal really opens up a drink much faster due to all the rough edges..... you get very fast oxidation and you can send off more "negative" scents some times. Not always the case. I love many bourbon in the crystal, like the Julio’s Weller. It opens so damn nice in the crystal...

    But, I can understand your skepticism...
    But isn't the only rough edge on the lip of the glass? How do you get more oxidation from crystal than from the glass? I hate to sound like an idiot, but I just do not get it. I do not get a dramatic difference from my Glencairn(the OF, which I believe is crystal) vs. my Riedel bourbon glass(the Ouveture, which I think is glass). Maybe my taste is not as matured as others.
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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by sotnsipper View Post
    I am with Joe on this one. Cannot see how crystal vs. glass can dramatically change the taste.




    But isn't the only rough edge on the lip of the glass? How do you get more oxidation from crystal than from the glass? I hate to sound like an idiot, but I just do not get it. I do not get a dramatic difference from my Glencairn(the OF, which I believe is crystal) vs. my Riedel bourbon glass(the Ouveture, which I think is glass). Maybe my taste is not as matured as others.
    The are both crystal.

    I noticed the first real diff with my reidels and some very similar glasses for port.

    I am not going to tell you it always makes a diff. In truth, most the time there is not, but when there is, you can usually really tell.

    What I recommend is when you find a bourbon that is just not right for you, try the glass or crystal with it to see if it changes. If it does, great you will be happy, if not, no loss.

    I had given up on my WTAS because it just did not meet my taste profile. I had been using the Reidels. I by mistake poured a sample into the glass and was amazed how good it was. I thought I was off my rocker (which still may be the case), but I tried it in the Reidel again and... Yummmmy.

    To go further into this rat hole, I have stacked up the Glass, Crystal and Lead Crystal now to see if I can detect any diff, and there is one. I do not have enough play with the three against enough bourbon, but with a woody/corky bottle of 1968 Old Crow it was easy to tell the diff.

    The largest, most amazing diff has still been with that 20 year Old St Nick. That amazed me. And to Joe's point, it was like I poured to completely diff bourbons. If it was not for the fact the Old St Nick was the only bottle at the table, I would have thought I made a mistake.

    I do always notice a diff with Four Forses. The crystal brings out even more floral (in a bid way to me).

    Last point here, it is not the roughness at the lip that makes the difference. Glass has a smooth surface and crystal does not. Under a microscope crystal looks like the surface of snow on a field. Pits and sharp edges, etc.

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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    Quote Originally Posted by spun_cookie View Post
    The are both crystal.

    I noticed the first real diff with my reidels and some very similar glasses for port.

    I am not going to tell you it always makes a diff. In truth, most the time there is not, but when there is, you can usually really tell.

    What I recommend is when you find a bourbon that is just not right for you, try the glass or crystal with it to see if it changes. If it does, great you will be happy, if not, no loss.

    I had given up on my WTAS because it just did not meet my taste profile. I had been using the Reidels. I by mistake poured a sample into the glass and was amazed how good it was. I thought I was off my rocker (which still may be the case), but I tried it in the Reidel again and... Yummmmy.

    To go further into this rat hole, I have stacked up the Glass, Crystal and Lead Crystal now to see if I can detect any diff, and there is one. I do not have enough play with the three against enough bourbon, but with a woody/corky bottle of 1968 Old Crow it was easy to tell the diff.

    The largest, most amazing diff has still been with that 20 year Old St Nick. That amazed me. And to Joe's point, it was like I poured to completely diff bourbons. If it was not for the fact the Old St Nick was the only bottle at the table, I would have thought I made a mistake.

    I do always notice a diff with Four Forses. The crystal brings out even more floral (in a bid way to me).

    Last point here, it is not the roughness at the lip that makes the difference. Glass has a smooth surface and crystal does not. Under a microscope crystal looks like the surface of snow on a field. Pits and sharp edges, etc.
    I guess this is why I do not notice much of a difference between the two glasses. I may try giving the VOB BIB a run again in one of these glasses vs a glass. Did not think about the crystal being rough like you described but that does make sense now. Thanks.
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    Re: Distillery Glencairn

    While this sounds maybe a bit far-fetched to me, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The way a whiskey opens up is a time based phenomenon in my opinion, but I can see how the nature of the glass could have an effect if the whiskey is in motion. Tell us more, very interesting stuff.

    Cheers!

 

 

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