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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Quote Originally Posted by jvanwinkle View Post
    I first bottled the Hirsch rye in Jan. of 1998. It was bottled from the same bottling tank as my 13-year rye-so it was the same whiskey. Not a single barrel, although sometimes I only bottled 1 barrel at a time. All the whiskey was distilled in either 1984 or '85. So when my rye & the Hirsch were first bottled, they were 13 yesars old. Each subsequent bottling was of older whiskey. I did the final bottling of Hirsch in Jan. of 2001. So it could have been as old as 16 or 17 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by barturtle View Post
    Does anyone, other than me, have a bottle with a Lot other than Lot 00-1?

    Mine is Lot 97-1.

    I'm guessing based upon Julian's statement of a first bottling of Jan '98 that the Lot 97-1 would be the first bottling. Applied for that label in 97, approved, printed and finally bottled in '98....seems to make sense, anyway.
    I'll follow that up and guess that the 00-1 would be the last run in Jan '01...again applied for label in '00, approved, printed and finally bottled in Jan '01...making it the same stock as VWFRR "C"...
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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Quote Originally Posted by barturtle View Post
    Just adding this in.

    This would be the Black Maple Hill 15yo Single Barrel, green label, green wax, bottled in Lawrenceburg, KY.
    Quoting myself here, but this should be equal to the VWFRR "B" bottling for it to be 15yo...though the proof is higher at 98.2
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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Thanks for this. Very interesting to see it all together. One thing Julian keeps telling us that I have trouble getting through my head is that he has enough of "his" rye to last until the BT rye is ready in about 2017. We don't have to keep wondering where it's coming from.

    I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow, so people who can plan years out like that amaze me.

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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Just checked my Hirsch Selection ryes....both are 00-1.

    So all of this stock was Medley rye?

    What about BMH 18 yr rye(KBD bottled)? Bernheim?
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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Anybody got a VWFRR "D"? Where was it bottled?
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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    I still have a "D" Lawrenceburg. I once had a "D" Frankfort.
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    Thumbs up Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Timothy, this is some incredible stuff you're pulling together, but I have to ask: Are you that bored?

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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Quote Originally Posted by dgonano View Post
    I still have a "D" Lawrenceburg. I once had a "D" Frankfort.
    Very interesting Dave. That would mean that there are both Frankfurt and Lawrenceburg bottles from A-D. I have had 2 Frankfurt B bottles myself.

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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Quote Originally Posted by nor02lei View Post
    Very interesting Dave. That would mean that there are both Frankfurt and Lawrenceburg bottles from A-D. I have had 2 Frankfurt B bottles myself.

    Leif
    When did you get those and where did you get those and what is the proof on them?

    The reason I asked is VWFRR "D" would have been bottled during 2002, which is the year that VW moved from his operation in Lawrenceburg to join forces with Buffalo Trace in Frankfort.
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    Re: Hirsch and Van Winkle Ryes

    Quote Originally Posted by barturtle View Post
    When did you get those and where did you get those and what is the proof on them?

    The reason I asked is VWFRR "D" would have been bottled during 2002, which is the year that VW moved from his operation in Lawrenceburg to join forces with Buffalo Trace in Frankfort.
    The proof is 95,6 Timotyh. I think I might have bought them around 2005-2007. However bottles do stay a long time with the online stores here some times.

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