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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    I have, open and within easy reach, the 97, 98 and 99. I also still have some 94, a particular favorite of mine. Last night I did a side-by-side between the 94 and 99, and while they are both good whiskeys, they are very different. The 94 tastes much older than the 99 and also much older than its nine years, more like 14 or 15. Lots of char and the darkest of dark fruit. I don't know if there is such a thing as smoked raisins but if there is, they probably taste like the 94 EWSB. The 99 is much lighter and its sweet side runs more to the caramel candy than dark fruit. The 94 is DSP-31 (Bardstown) juice, while the 99 is Brown-Forman, possibly with some Bernheim. The 2000, which will be previewed in October, should be all-Bernheim. A fraction of the 96 and all of the 97 is Beam juice, while 98 and 99 are Brown-Forman. Although Heaven Hill has always been truthful about where their whiskey was made after the fire, they've never been enthusiastic about discussing it, so some of the details are assumptions.
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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    while 98 and 99 are Brown-Forman.
    Chuck, would it be safe to say then that the current EC12 is also B-F juice???
    . . . it is an almost exact taste-alike to the '98 EWSB.

    Also, as someone who doesn't like Old Forester at all, it's amazing to me that this is the same juice . . . . if it wasn't coming from a source I thoroughly trust, I wouldn't have believed it . . . that extra aging must do wonders.
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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    The 2000, which will be previewed in October, should be all-Bernheim.
    I've been thinking about picking up an EWSB, I think I'll wait till Oct.
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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    The 2000, which will be previewed in October, should be all-Bernheim. A fraction of the 96 and all of the 97 is Beam juice, while 98 and 99 are Brown-Forman. Although Heaven Hill has always been truthful about where their whiskey was made after the fire, they've never been enthusiastic about discussing it, so some of the details are assumptions.

    This good info I added it to my notes
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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by funknik View Post
    Chuck, would it be safe to say then that the current EC12 is also B-F juice???
    . . . it is an almost exact taste-alike to the '98 EWSB.
    When HH was without a distillery and made whiskey at Beam and BF, Craig and Parker oversaw it and to the extent possible at someone else's still, they made 'their' whiskey. They also aged it in their warehouses.

    As for EC12, since it's not a single barrel, they combine barrels and may very well use barrels from more than one of the different distilleries they used during that period. The whiskey in the bottle has to be at least 12 years old, but it can be older.

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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by funknik View Post
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    Also, as someone who doesn't like Old Forester at all, it's amazing to me that this is the same juice . . . . if it wasn't coming from a source I thoroughly trust, I wouldn't have believed it . . . that extra aging must do wonders.
    Aint nothing wrong with DSP 354 when they're making Rittenhouse either. And, I agree, the current Forester is, to me, so much less than it was at DSP 414 that it's quite a surprise how great of contract juice they distil. Just like has been my lot of following the Oakland Raiders, when will Forester return to it's former greatness?

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    Re: Which Evan Williams SB?

    Quote Originally Posted by funknik View Post
    Chuck, would it be safe to say then that the current EC12 is also B-F juice???
    . . . it is an almost exact taste-alike to the '98 EWSB.

    Also, as someone who doesn't like Old Forester at all, it's amazing to me that this is the same juice . . . . if it wasn't coming from a source I thoroughly trust, I wouldn't have believed it . . . that extra aging must do wonders.
    I've said this before EC12 taste exactly like OF 86. But I never have thought that any EWSB taste like OF. I had heard that they had used some Beam juice for some of the EWSB.
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