New bottles (Bowman)

[independant]

So they are from Sazerac/Smith Bowman.
There will also be a rye whiskey, Abraham Bowman listed for 69.95

[loose proton]

...I think we can now officially put to rest the theory that Kentucky is the only state legally allowed to put its name next to "Straight Bourbon Whiskey"!

You mean bourbon can come from more than just a few counties in KY
Virginia is a budding distiller state with some new entries into the proof world. A Richmond company is producing a potato vodka that receives accolades. Some new companies are starting whiskey production but age is not there.

[ggilbertva]

John J. Bowman Bourbon is from Bowman Distillery. It's a 12 year old, 100 proof bourbon from barrels listing DSP-VA-25. When I visited Bowman earlier this year, the barrels were sitting out and Joe Dangler indicated the bottling would happen sometime in the fall.

Joe has indicated that it's a really great bourbon. For the time being, it will only be sold in VA and 200 of the 300 ABC stores will carry it. It will be available within 2 weeks.

[cowdery]

Joe may have understated it. There is currently no plan to sell these new products outside of Virginia.

About the mash bill, we recently had a situation in which Mark Brown declined to characterize the two recipes as "low rye" and "high rye," preferring just to refer to them by number. It occurs to me that, really, those are misnomers. Recipe #1 is unusually low in rye content, but recipe #2 isn't really high, except in relationship to #1. It's more like standard, around 15%. A true high rye recipe would be like Old Grand-Dad or Bulleit, at about 30% rye.

[independant]

Joe may have understated it. There is currently no plan to sell these new products outside of Virginia.

I find it a little odd that these three products would only be sold in Va. I have long said that even for a control state we do get a good selection of bourbon but why not also send it to a few other markets like Kentucky.

[barturtle]

I find it a little odd that these three products would only be sold in Va. I have long said that even for a control state we do get a good selection of bourbon but why not also send it to a few other markets like Kentucky.

Perhaps the Virginia Dept of Tourism and Travel is giving them some kickbacks and hoping this will enoucourage more people to travel and shop in VA.

Who in VA has got a guest room? I need to come get me some rye!

[funknik]

Joe may have understated it. There is currently no plan to sell these new products outside of Virginia.

About the mash bill, we recently had a situation in which Mark Brown declined to characterize the two recipes as "low rye" and "high rye," preferring just to refer to them by number. It occurs to me that, really, those are misnomers. Recipe #1 is unusually low in rye content, but recipe #2 isn't really high, except in relationship to #1. It's more like standard, around 15%. A true high rye recipe would be like Old Grand-Dad or Bulleit, at about 30% rye.

I didn't mean to suggest that the recipe #2 was "high rye" but like you said, Chuck, just a relative high -- it's obvious that neither of the BT mashbills have a high rye content -- but just like Barton's 1792 recipe has a high rye content compared to their other offerings. Sorry for the confusion.

[ggilbertva]

As soon as it shows up, I'll grab a bottle and give my impressions.

[cowdery]

I didn't mean to suggest that the recipe #2 was "high rye" but like you said, Chuck, just a relative high -- it's obvious that neither of the BT mashbills have a high rye content -- but just like Barton's 1792 recipe has a high rye content compared to their other offerings. Sorry for the confusion.

Nothing aimed at you, Andy, we all tend to refer to the two Buffalo Trace rye-recipe bourbon mashes that way.

[cowdery]

I don't think Sazerac will hesitate to expand distribution of the Bowman products if they think the demand is there, but at the moment there is no plan to do that.