Kentucky Distillers’s Association Sues Sazerac

[Ultra]

I used quotes around the word bourbon because I know the law. Scotch not made in Scotland is malt whiskey. "Bourbon" made in Aussie might be called something else. The other distillers won't care what it is called if it takes a big bite out of their exports.

[OscarV]

Sazerac/Buffalo Trace has been going down the wrong road for a while now.
The killing off of their best brands, Centennial, Proprietor's Reseve, Eagle Rare 101 and Old Charter 12yo and now getting out of the KDA but infringing on KDA'a copyrights.
Maybe they are just gettin' to big for their britches.
Has anyone heard how they are doing in the Vodka Distillers Association?

[Josh]

They still make some good stuff, but I would also love to see all those whiskeys back.

When we toured Tom Moore, our tourguide Pam (she said she was a former chair of the KBF) gave the impression that everybody at TM has just been left hanging. Saz told them they were going to change the name of the distillery back to Barton, which hasn't happened, and halted completion of the new gift shop in favor of a new location for it, but hasn't given them the greenlight on that or anything else. The whole place seems to be in a holding pattern. Which is fine with me. As long as VOB BiB is left alone, I'm fine.

[OscarV]

They still make some good stuff,

You think so?
I don't, I can't think of anything that I would spend money on from BT.
I'm bored and tired of WLW SR and OWA 10/107, the rest of the line up is to grassy for me.
And as far as I am concerned the highly touted BTAC has fizzled out and ran it's course, just another example of much ado about, well not nothing but not about much.
BT, ETL, RHF, AA and Blanton's, c'mon, anyone can make that stuff.

[Josh]

You think so?
I don't, I can't think of anything that I would spend money on from BT.
I'm bored and tired of WLW SR and OWA 10/107, the rest of the line up is to grassy for me.
And as far as I am concerned the highly touted BTAC has fizzled out and ran it's course, just another example of much ado about, well not nothing but not about much.
BT, ETL, RHF, AA and Blanton's, c'mon, anyone can make that stuff.

Oh man, you're gonna hear about that comment.

I'm pretty much with you on the BTAC, but I did end up buying a bottle of the Stagg this year. It grew on me.

The Ancient Ancient Age 10 y/o is a very good whiskey for $18. On par with 4R yellow label I think. I also enjoy Old Charter 10 in a similar range. I enjoy ETL and RHF too. Sometimes that delicate sweetness really hits the spot, but they do cost too much.

As for the Wellers, I think they're good for the price. They don't hold up to their Van Winkle cousins, but they're still good buys to me. But if I had your stash, Oscar, I doubt I would be buying them either.

[OscarV]

The majority here on SB.com always brings price into the equation.
So I'm gonna do it to, if I have to spend money on a bourbon then I'll pass on the Sazerac/Buffalo Trace line up.

Don't get me started on the Brown-Forman circus of whiskies.

[ErichPryde]

The majority here on SB.com always brings price into the equation.
So I'm gonna do it to, if I have to spend money on a bourbon then I'll pass on the Sazerac/Buffalo Trace line up.

Don't get me started on the Brown-Forman circus of whiskies.

Too bad wild turkey doesn't make anything except for their incredibly overpriced tradition that's worth a damn anymore when compared to how it was 20 years ago, eh Oscar?

[OscarV]

Too bad wild turkey doesn't make anything except for their incredibly overpriced tradition that's worth a damn anymore when compared to how it was 20 years ago, eh Oscar?

Never had it 20 years ago so I can't really say.
But it has been no secrect here on the SB.com forum for a couple of years now that I am the leader in calling out Wild Turkey for to young whiskey in their Kentucky Spirit and 101.

[matthew0715]

You think so?
I don't, I can't think of anything that I would spend money on from BT.
I'm bored and tired of WLW SR and OWA 10/107, the rest of the line up is to grassy for me.
And as far as I am concerned the highly touted BTAC has fizzled out and ran it's course, just another example of much ado about, well not nothing but not about much.
BT, ETL, RHF, AA and Blanton's, c'mon, anyone can make that stuff.

Perhaps you should update your profile now? You've just trashed all of your "Recommended" bourbons except The Rose's.

-Matt

[Rughi]

Sazerac/Buffalo Trace has been going down the wrong road for a while now.
The killing off of their best brands, Centennial, Proprietor's Reseve, Eagle Rare 101 and Old Charter 12yo...

Oscar, you're channeling the ghost of Mozilla!
I miss that ol' BT cusser...

Roger