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    Bottled in Bond

    Greetings fellow Bourbon fans. I'm a newbie to the pleasures of Bourbon but my rookie-ness so far hasn't precluded me from enjoying my still beginner level forays into the world of Bourbon. It took a recent trip to Scotland to make me realize that Bourbon is better! (at least that's my humble opinion). Anyway, I have a question for this learned group. One bourbon I've recently tried and so far it's my favorite (although Old Forester isn't far behind) is 1843. When I bought my first bottle the clerk proudly pointed out that it is "bottled in bond" and of course that is listed on the label. So-- what exactly does this mean?

    Also, I've recently had a chance to try Eagle Rare 10yo, Rip Van Winkle 12yo, Wathan's Single Barrel, Buffalo Trace, 1843, and Old Forester in a taste off. Wow, what an evening! Things sort of rapibly detiorated but if memory serves... they were all very good, but I was surprised that the 1843 (and OF too) held its own quite well. I think I liked the Wathan's Single Barrell best. Another question-- what is the story on David Nicholson's 1843? Is it well known, how is it regarded, etc?

    Anyway, this is a great site and I've really enjoyed reading up on the old discussions to "smarten up" on the world of Bourbons.

    Mark
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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Nice to have you on board... Now is it just me or is this board getting overwhelmed with Mark's!

    --> Mark R.

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Well Mark we used to have more Johns than a New Orleans Whore House so now we're over Mark'd! I think my good friend Mark Rickey would make a real good 'Rocky'! But you're the first and have dibs on the name. What say ye??? - Linn

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Welcome to Bourbonia Mark Bradley! A hearty BleeE! to you sir. A trumpet playing enemy blowin' upin' SEAL are ye now laddie??? Yeah we could use a guy like you around here! I'm a Viet Nam era vetran (served in what was then West Gernamy - not 'Nam) I was a Combat Engineer and Demo expert. Would you care to de-construct a few sc**th distilleries with me by any chance?? - Linn

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Mark,

    Here is a previuos discussion of bonded bourbon that I think will help answer your question. And welcome to straightbourbon.com.

    http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbth...=true#Post7189

    Tim

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Mark,
    Welcome to the board. As a fellow Kansas Citian, I can say that David Nicholson 1843 isn't available everywhere. It's a 'house' brand out of St. Louis, has always been sold in Missouri and Illinois. Was THE premium bourbon in Missouri for many years until the recent 'golden age'. Per other conversations on here this is basically 7 year old Old Fitzgerald BIB (bottled in Bond in a nutshell = at least 4 years old, 100 proof). It's a good buy.

    If you like this one (and I do) look for Old Fitz 1849 as well, it's 90 proof, 8 years old, and you can find it for ~ the same price as the DN 1843 at Gomer's, Royal on 103rd or Red X in Riverside. Neither of these fine whiskey's are available in Kansas, by the way.

    One nice thing about living in KC, you can check Kansas for a sale on Knob Creek (Gomer's on 87th in Lenexa or Jacks-S.M. Parkway & Lackman in Shawnee -always best prices) drive 10 miles to Missouri for different sale prices, totally different selection. Sweet.

    Lukas Liquors in Overland Park

    Royal Liquor

    And you can check the KC Star online for the weekly sale at Gomers, both Kansas and Missouri locations.

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    To be called "bottled in bond," a bourbon must be at least four years old and at least 100 proof. It also must be the product of one distillery and one distiller in one season. "Straight bourbon" can be and often is a combination of different bourbons made at different times and places. "Bonded Bourbon" cannot be a combination of that sort.

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    Re: Bottled in Bond

    Are you saying here , Chuck , that it qualifies as BIB if over 100 Proof, As long as everything else is met?

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    Made and Bottled in Kentucky....

    A lot of bourbon information is in this forum...

    The most informative person, (in my opinion) is Chuck Cowdery...He is a member of "The" Straightbourbon.com group of bourbon enthusiast...

    Chuck is the writer/producer/director of Made and Bottled in Kentucky...It's a one-hour documentary about the bourbon whiskey industry...It was produced in 1992 in honor of the bicentennial of Kentucky statehood...Funding was provided by Kentucky Educational Television (KET) and the Kentucky Distillers Assocaition (KDA)...Since its original broadcast on KET, the program has appeared on most U.S. public television stations.

    A excellent documentary !!!

    Bettye Jo


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    Re: Made and Bottled in Kentucky....

    There is also a copy of Chuck's video in the Nelson County Library. They have The Regans Book of Bourbon, Several copies of The Marker's Mark book, That book has a neat ad copy in it where they spoofed Pappy Van Winkle , Booker's and something else , I didn't get it Maybe it was AH Hirsch They called it Old Fat Cat and had Gold on the label, and dollar signs. He said thay got a lot of feed back from the producers of those Bourbons.
    BettyeJo , do they have a copy at the Getz? That would be a neat addition to the other videos they have.

 

 

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