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  1. #211
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by chasking View Post
    If the reason the actual data for LDI is not in the tree is simply because nobody's bothered to type it up, here it is:


    LDI, ??? char, Independent Stave?
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    Rye Whiskey (0/51/49)
    51% Rye Whiskey (45/51/4) – Templeton Rye*?
    95% Rye Whiskey (0/95/5) – Bulleit Rye*


    Sells bourbon and rye for many brands including Redemption et al, High West, W.H. Harrison, Cougar (Australia), and KBD

    For the record, the Templeton website still says they're the 95% rye mashbill. Well actually, they say 90+% specifically, but we all know what that leaves.

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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh View Post
    That would be why. Thanks for typing it up! I don't think I will include the mashbills without products attached in the next edition, but it is all here in the thread for anyone to see. Thanks!
    I don't think any of the new mash bills likely have a product associated with them yet because they are so new. Should probably distinguish them from the original mash bills.

    MGP (formerly LDI), ??? char, Independent Stave?

    Original mash bills
    Lower Rye Bourbon (75/21/4)
    Higher Rye Bourbon (60/36/4) - Smooth Ambler Old Scout*?
    Corn Bourbon (99/0/1)
    "Light" Whiskey (99/0/1) - Not clear what this is. Unaged?
    Corn Whiskey (81/15/4)
    95% Rye Whiskey (0/95/5) – Bulleit Rye*, Templeton Rye*?

    New mash bills - As of April 2013
    Rye Whiskey (0/51/49)
    Rye Whiskey (45/51/4)
    95% Wheat Whiskey (0/95/5)
    100% Barley Malt Whiskey (0/0/100)
    Wheat Bourbon (51/45/4)
    Barley Malt Bourbon (51/0/49)
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Thanks to everybody for all the posts regarding the MGPI mashbills I really think that to keep this from spinning out of control, the tree needs to stick to mashbills and other data that goes with products actually on the shelves. Including products that used to exist or may exist in the future is a black hole from which there is no escape.

    I'll update the tree this week if I can.
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    While not quite the same as the Whiskey tree maintained here, GQ put out a visual representation recently:

    http://www.gq.com/images/life/2013/1...tree-large.jpg



    (image from GQ Magazine)
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    CW - thanks for this view - totally cool.

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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Interesting but suggests a lack of true whiskey nerdiness was involved in the creation! Also interesting that they show a lack of separation between BF and HH while most everything else has a line separating them where appropriate.

    For example while it may soon be true the current Saz 18 and VWFRR don't really belong on the same branch of the BT tree do they? And the two older Pappy's are in a state of transition from one branch to another.

    Four roses ought to have ten trunks with branches growing to gether rather like a Banyan tree!

    Old Fitz seems to branch off a wee bit early on the HH tree for some reason.

    JD rye doesn't rate a mention while Dickel Rye, Jacob's Ghost and other white dogs make an appearance.

    And I guess they have no clue what to do with the various CEHT or PHC expersions!
    Last edited by tanstaafl2; 11-14-2013 at 11:06.
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    It does help to emphasize the rarity of well-aged stock, tho.

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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl2 View Post
    For example while it may soon be true the current Saz 18 and VWFRR don't really belong on the same branch of the BT tree do they? And the two older Pappy's are in a state of transition from one branch to another.
    Well put B! Honestly, I'd like to see a time-elapse GIF of this illustration with the expressions jumping between different distilleries/trees over time.
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by ChainWhip View Post
    Well put B! Honestly, I'd like to see a time-elapse GIF of this illustration with the expressions jumping between different distilleries/trees over time.
    That what make a fun chart even more fun! Thanks for sharing that! Very cool.

    Hoping to post the new version soon. Gonna add the known MGPI mashbills and take away the (high barley?) speculation from Barton-1792 section.
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    Re: Whiskey Tree

    I wondered about the placement of some, like the ETL looks like it well below Blantons and AAA 10 yr, when ETL is bottled (at least recently) closer to 9 yrs (and I read somewhere that Harlen said Blantons was typically in the 6-8 yr range). Interesting display of information though!
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