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    ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    I purchased several bottles of Old Grand Dad (86 proof) with ND stamps on the "large" cap (bottles stamped with 86 on the bottom) and love it. Everything I have read says Beam uses the same mashbill and yeast strain as National Distillers. My problem is that they don't taste anything alike and I have tried several different bottles of each. The Beam product seems to me to taste more like JB White (funky "yeast" taste) than the ND OGD. My question is why the difference. Do they really use the old mashbill and yeast? Are they aged the same? and/or Does sitting on a shelf for 25 years affect the taste of the bourbon?

    And in that "strain" of thought: How do distilleries that use more than one yeast strain prevent cross contamination?

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    If I had to guess what would be the biggest thing causing it to taste different, it would have to be the proof off of the still. Then followed by barrel proof. The nd was probably a lot lower proof off of the still, and therefore had more flavor in it. I agree, there is a huge difference in the 2.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    Different distillery, different stills. Other differences in standard processes and procedures. I know next to nothing about the inner workings of the Old Grand-Distillery at Forks of the Elkorn, so who knows what changed? I just know that the mashbill and yeast strain did not. Those were retained.

    Different people picking barrels. Different tasting panel.

    Maybe a different barrel source.

    Time in the bottle? Little or no effect.
    Last edited by cowdery; 03-06-2011 at 09:51.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    There may also be an age difference.

    I've got some OGB BIB with the ND faux tax strip, and it sure is tasty.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    I vote for different tasting panels using their own sense of what should be the flavor profile, both ND and Beam having their own tasting traditions.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    Craig is right about age. Most of the ND OGD people have today is glut-era whiskey and probably significantly older than expected, e.g., NAS bottlings typically being 8 to 10 years old instead of the 4 to 6 you'd expect, which is probably what we're getting now, if that.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    From all I have seen and heard, 1 and only 1 yeast strain is in use at the Jim Beam distilleries.

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    Re: ND vs. Beam Old Grandad question

    Yep, just one, used since 1795.

 

 

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