Welcome to the Straightbourbon.com Forums.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
  1. #1
    Advanced Taster
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    181

    Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    A little offshoot from this thread:

    http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...ad.php?t=15681

    Distilled November 6, 2001. Bottled early (March/April?) 2011 with a 10 year age statement, when it's actually 9.x years old. I'm guessing "years" are calculated the same way rental car companies calculate days; any part of a calendar day would count as a full day, so on 01/01/2011 would be old enough for this to be considered a 10 year?

    Not a huge issue either way, just more of curiosity on the requirements for age-stating.

  2. #2
    Guru
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Napoleon, MI
    Posts
    7,280

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    I think when it is not an exact, for example 10 year old, they mean 10 summers in the wood.
    ovh

  3. #3
    Advanced Taster
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    181

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarV View Post
    I think when it is not an exact, for example 10 year old, they mean 10 summers in the wood.
    Could be, at least in some cases but this one would have summer 2002 thru summer 2010. Even younger if you figure it this way.

  4. #4
    Trippah and Admin
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Northeast Ahia
    Posts
    4,505

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    That ETL is 9 year old bourbon, all fuzzy math aside. It will be interesting if SV is putting a 10 year age sticker on the bottle and if so, shame on them.

    Going by the oft repeated "...if it is 4 year old bourbon, then it is 4 years and a day...", they couldn't sell that whiskey in a bottling with an official age statement on the label.

    "10 Decembers in wood" doesn't quite have the same marketing pizzazz, does it?
    My name is Joel Goodson. I deal in human fulfillment.
    I grossed over eight thousand dollars in one night. Time of your life, huh kid?

  5. #5
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    1,135

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    Is there a real bottle you are referring to or are you just making up the example?

    Computation of years is not something specifically covered in the regs, but I would be surprised if the TTB allowed the dates you are describing to come under a 10 year age statement and that would be misleading to the consumer. I would assume ten years means ten years, to the date, and the oldest the whiskey you are describing could labeled as would be 9 years old.

    Keep in mind that the age statement refers to the youngest whiskey in the bottle and that age statements can be understated but may not be overstated.

  6. #6
    Trippah and Admin
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Northeast Ahia
    Posts
    4,505

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    The example is taken from the Shoppers Vineyard ETL in the linked thread.
    My name is Joel Goodson. I deal in human fulfillment.
    I grossed over eight thousand dollars in one night. Time of your life, huh kid?

  7. #7
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    1,135

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    Quote Originally Posted by callmeox View Post
    The example is taken from the Shoppers Vineyard ETL in the linked thread.
    Got it thanks. Looking at the SV website, it doesn't appear that the actual bottles have an age statement.

  8. #8
    Advanced Taster
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    181

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sku View Post
    Got it thanks. Looking at the SV website, it doesn't appear that the actual bottles have an age statement.
    Yep. I neglected to take a look at the zoomed pic and just went by the Shoppers Vineyard page. So, I guess the age statement is a SV addition, which is not too cool but whatever. Good to know that a bourbon year is a true year and not just some part of one.

    Thanks fellas!

  9. #9
    Bourbonian of the Year 2002 and Guru
    Join Date
    Sep 1999
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    12,375

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    A year is a year, common meaning, and a barrel of whiskey's birthday is exactly the same as a human's. I know of several instances when a company was just waiting until a batch's birthday to dump it, just to be right with the label age statement.

    Stitzel-Weller, when the Van Winkle family owned it, always had a policy of only counting summers and would put that on the label, e.g., "7 Summers Old" rather than "7 Years Old." That was their policy and I don't think anyone else ever applied it.

  10. #10
    Guru
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Northern Kentucky
    Posts
    3,399

    Re: Age statement; what constitutes a "year"?

    At my age, a lot less than you might think...
    John B

    "Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at all seasons… that is all there is to distinguish us from other animals."

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. "Old" old charter 7 year vs. "New" 8 year question?
    By Enoch in forum General Bourbon Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-07-2010, 08:35
  2. "neat" vs. "straight", vs. "on the rocks"
    By Randy_Ricchi in forum General Bourbon Discussion
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 11-12-2008, 17:42
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-11-2006, 18:36

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Back to top