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  1. #11
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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    Contrary to what many Texans believe, Texas is no longer an independent country and there is no Customs declaration when you arrive from other states. And the airlines don't care. As long as you're not carrying hazmat Stagg.
    We're NOT? Grumble... grumble... Gotta take down the machine gun emplacements again.

    Seriously, though, I am still irritated at the "It's SINFUL!" nature of the laws that are still in place, regardless of how frequently they are enforced. All it takes is once.
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  2. #12
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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    This state is all about guns and alcohol and I'm proud to be a gun toting (responsible father, business man and husband) bourbon drinker. I have carried my gun across state lines legally and I have carried my booze across state lines, apparently illegally. Can I get a permit for that too, cause Oklahoma is holding a few things for me and I need to make a run for the border.....soon!

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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    Contrary to what many Texans believe, Texas is no longer an independent country and there is no Customs declaration when you arrive from other states. And the airlines don't care. As long as you're not carrying hazmat Stagg.
    And if you believe the Mexicans, it never was!

  4. #14

    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by timd View Post
    (FWIW: there are NO such restrictions on wine or beer - only on liquor)
    The TABC publication states otherwise:

    Importation of Alcoholic Beverages:

    Texas Residents:
    1 quart of distilled spirits
    3 gallons of wine and
    24 twelve oz containers of beer

    Non-residents:
    1 gallon of distilled spirits or wine and
    24 twelve oz containers of beer

    Utter madness I say!

    http://tinyurl.com/3vlo8sr
    Last edited by BourbonKiller; 06-03-2011 at 20:22.

  5. #15
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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    sigh....and in 27 states sodomy is still against the law.

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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by BourbonKiller View Post
    The TABC publication states otherwise:
    That's just for bringing it across from Mexico - but MOVING to Texas is different:

    http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/poe/moving_to_texas.asp

    Texas law allows a person to import an unlimited personal wine collection along with their household goods when relocating to Texas. There is no paperwork involved and the typical state taxes are not owed. If you are moving to Texas from outside of the United States, you should contact U.S. Customs regarding federal regulations and taxes.

    From the Alcoholic Beverage Code: Sec. 107.11. Importation Of Personal Wine Collection.

    (a) A person who is relocating a household may import, or contract with a motor carrier or another person to import, a personal wine collection as a part of that person's household goods.
    (b) Section 107.07 of this code [regarding taxes and importation limits] does not apply to a person who is importing a personal wine collection under Subsection (a) of this section.

    Unfortunately, similar laws do not exist for beer or distilled spirits. A Texas resident may import no more than a quart of distilled spirits and 24 12-ounce containers of beer.
    *I was wrong about beer - it's also limited and liquor is even MORE regulated, it's just the winos that get a free pass.

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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by timd View Post
    That's just for bringing it across from Mexico
    I agree that current enforcement is when you are coming back from Mexico but the TABC wording states the following:

    "The TABC would like to remind you that when traveling to Mexico and other locations outside Texas, it is important to remember your rights and limitations regarding the amount of alcoholic beverage and cigarettes that you can bring back into our state."

    Making any potential out of state legal Bourbon/Whiskey runs limited to one quart of product.

    sigh...

    The moving deal is great for wine afficionados... I am guessing lawmakers do not believe there are any whiskey afficinados, just us degenerate hard liquor drunkards.
    Last edited by BourbonKiller; 06-04-2011 at 03:03.

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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Quote Originally Posted by timd View Post
    That's just for bringing it across from Mexico - but MOVING to Texas is different:

    http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/poe/moving_to_texas.asp

    *I was wrong about beer - it's also limited and liquor is even MORE regulated, it's just the winos that get a free pass.
    When I moved to Dallas I was advised ahead of time that they wouldn't move my liquor, so I wrapped every bottle and stashed them in various boxes. It all arrived safe and sound!
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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    They don't make an effort to enforce these laws because if they were enforced they could be tested. For example, one could easily argue that making an exception for wine is arbitrary and it's either all alcoholic beverages or none.

    As it is, having the laws on the books has some deterrence value, or so the regulators would argue.

    Tennessee has similar laws and I'm sure other states do too.

    They're really trying to prevent unlicensed commercial distribution schemes, not collectors, but the law isn't carefully written to exempt collectors either.

    Yes, at bottom the problem is that the fundamental premise of most alcohol laws is that alcohol is uniquely hazardous and, therefore, must be regulated unlike any other food or beverage. For some people, the fact that their religion teaches that alcohol is evil helps them believe it is uniquely hazardous.

    Tennessee law actually limits how much you can possess, in your home, and it's in the neighborhood of about a dozen bottles. Every collector is Tennessee is a criminal. Tennessee law also has the deal where transportation over a certain amount is prima facie dealing.

    The problem is, when these laws were written, they intended to accommodate someone having a big party, but they never considered collectors.

    When Tennessee recently busted a big collector who they believed was dealing, they settled the case out of court for a little bit of forfeiture and a promise not to sin again. They tested nothing and proved nothing, except they did cause the guy some grief and put the rest of the state on notice that it could happen to them too.

    What's that called? Police state terrorism?

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    Re: Texas Importation of Alcoholic Beverages

    Well I'm glad I didn't get stopped in Texas last week. On my trip from Minnesota through Texas I had 48 750 ml bottles stashed in my truck along with 4- 1 liter bottles.
    Greg
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