Welcome to the Straightbourbon.com Forums.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11
  1. #1
    Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    442

    Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Have just spent the week in Bordeaux, France, attending Vinexpo, the world's largest wine trade show. Just so happens that a lot of spirits get sold here, too. Was able to spend some time with Max Shapira at Heaven Hill. We're going to be working on a little project together that I can't wait to share with y'all.

    Max told me that there are multiple plans in the works to relaunch some of their older labels, as well as some new line extensions. When I asked for specifics, all he would do is smile and say, "soon". Funny...he said the same thing when I asked what the next Parker's Heritage would be.

    Checked out a fancy booth done up like your typical U.S. bar, complete with sports memorabilia and a LOT of cowboy hats. Why the hats? Here's why:


    I guess nothing says "America" like cowboys and Bourbon...so why not package the two? This is the brainchild of the Schwarze and Schlichte group out of Germany. They buy Bourbon in bulk, and bottle it in Germany. Turns out they've plans to introduce it to the states soon, too. You can read about it here.

    It's 84 proof, and fairly light in taste. It's nothing that's going to lift the skirts of most of us, but might entice newcomers to the category. When pressed, they admitted that the spirit is being made for them by Heaven Hill.
    Mat Garretson
    HIGH WEST DISTILLERY

  2. #2
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,394

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrviognier View Post
    ...When pressed, they admitted that the spirit is being made for them by Heaven Hill.
    There's Heaven Hill and there's Heaven Hill. They have about half the world's supply of 8+ year old bourbon which span many, many taste profiles, a few of which have the pronounced menthol character of their core products.

    It looks like it's not age stated and perhaps it's quite young. I'd be interested in anyone's tasting notes on this.

    Roger

  3. #3
    Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    442

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Wasn't in a professional setting to write notes, but from what I recall, fairly light in color, notes of sweet corn, cereals, no spice. Light entry, with notes of orange, corn and vanilla. REALLY light body, and soft, quick finish. No flaws, just not enough there to make it compelling. And, no, not a touch of that menthol/eucalyptus that predominates many of the HH offerings.

    I think this would really appeal to the European who drinks JD and wants to 'splurge' on a Bourbon. They're not going to find anything there to startle the palate.
    Mat Garretson
    HIGH WEST DISTILLERY

  4. #4
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Tallahassee
    Posts
    1,342

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    They may be on to something with the marketing and graphic on the bottle. I used to work with an Italian company and it seemed half the men under 30 were nicknamed Cowboy. Plenty of cowboy hats were purchased when they visited the USA.

  5. #5
    Bourbonian of the Year 2002 and Guru
    Join Date
    Sep 1999
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    12,394

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    When they first started to market Jim Beam outside the USA they were big on cowboy imagery. I recall an ad that showed a man's blue-jeaned legs, cowboy boots on the feet, with a stetson in the shot too, but instead of a horse the 'steed' was a motorcycle.

  6. #6
    Advanced Taster
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    156

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    I would suggest that the next parkers be something finished in a wine barrel, given the atmosphere.

  7. #7
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Apt. #2890c
    Posts
    1,424

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Very interesting view into the marketing of whiskey outside of the US.... thanks for posting...
    "The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana Cigar"

  8. #8
    Virtuoso
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,394

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrviognier View Post
    ...from what I recall, fairly light in color, notes of sweet corn, cereals, no spice. Light entry, with notes of orange, corn and vanilla. REALLY light body, and soft, quick finish. No flaws, just not enough there to make it compelling. And, no, not a touch of that menthol/eucalyptus that predominates many of the HH offerings...
    Thanks Mat,
    That description sounds similar to Early Times or perhaps a recent Rebel Yell. Did it have a strong ethanol whiff on the nose? Because otherwise it sounds like a sweet, smooth and short ET - but not so much how I normally think of a young HH rye bourbon.

    It would be interesting to see if this profile matches up with any domestic product.

  9. #9
    Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    442

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Yes, there was a slight ethanol whiff to this. If anything, it really reminded me of JD Black. That feeling was reinforced when I ordered one on the flight home yesterday. Strangely similar.

    On a side note, am happy to report that each of the five bottles of Bourbon I bought at the Maison du Whiskey in Paris made it home intact. Just wondering which one I'll crack tonight in celebration.
    Mat Garretson
    HIGH WEST DISTILLERY

  10. #10
    Guru
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Napoleon, MI
    Posts
    7,283

    Re: Taking Bourbon at Vinexpo in France.

    Quote Originally Posted by bgageus View Post
    I would suggest that the next parkers be something finished in a wine barrel, given the atmosphere.
    As a matter of fact the next Parker's Heritage will be finished in wine casks.

    (later edit)
    Actually it will be finished in cognac casks.
    Last edited by OscarV; 06-25-2011 at 11:29.
    ovh

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Bottles bought in France and Spain
    By ThomasW in forum General Bourbon Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-14-2010, 12:54
  2. hello from the south of France
    By laficion in forum New to Straightbourbon
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 07-27-2009, 08:03
  3. Wine international : France vs. USA
    By Hedmans Brorsa in forum Non-Whiskey Alcohol
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 06-13-2006, 01:58
  4. The Pure Glass by Mason du Whisky of France
    By **DONOTDELETE** in forum Paraphernalia
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-09-2002, 20:35

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Back to top