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    American bourbon/spirit corperations

    I'm saddened by the fact that all 3 of the big 3 beer makers- miller, budweiser, and coors, are now all foreign (sam adams is the largest beer producer). Can someone tell me which of the international bourbon/spirit companies are american?

    I know Pernod ricard/Wild turkey is foreign. I was wondering about Diageo and sazerac and the rest. Does anyone know?

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    I'll take a stab at it:

    Heaven Hill - American
    Buffalo Trace/Barton/ - Sazerac (American)
    Brown-Forman - American
    Jim Beam/Maker's Mark - Beam Inc. (American owned I think...)
    Four Roses - Kirin (Japanese)
    Wild Turkey - Campari (European)

    Diageo is definitely foreign owned, I believe European.

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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Heaven Hill and Sazerac are privately-owned by American families. Beam and Brown-Forman are publically-traded ---- so it is impossible to define their ownership by nationality.
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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by jburlowski View Post
    Heaven Hill and Sazerac are privately-owned by American families. Beam and Brown-Forman are publically-traded ---- so it is impossible to define their ownership by nationality.
    Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.

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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by White Dog View Post
    Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.
    According to our well beloved Chuck Cowdery, in Bourbon, Straight, Sazerac is (was?) owned by the Goldring family. The book was published in 2004, hence the problem with verb tense. Ownership could have changed by now but it seems to me that I have seen more recent references to the family in places I can't recall off hand.
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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by White Dog View Post
    Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.
    Still independent, Goldring family-owned and headed by William Goldring.

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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by trumpstylz View Post
    I'm saddened by the fact that all 3 of the big 3 beer makers- miller, budweiser, and coors, are now all foreign (sam adams is the largest beer producer).
    If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.

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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by RegChumpington View Post
    If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.
    Which makes the recent acquisition of Foster's by Miller even sadder.
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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by RegChumpington View Post
    If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.
    Amen. A-B products didn't get any worse when the Belgians came into the picture. I wasn't drinking them then, and won't be now.

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    Re: American bourbon/spirit corperations

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker View Post
    Still independent, Goldring family-owned and headed by William Goldring.
    My understanding (from Chuck's postings) is that Sazerac is 100% owned by Wm. Goldring.F amily members are also (under a separate corporate umbrella) involved in the wholesaling / distributing end of the business.
    Last edited by jburlowski; 11-27-2011 at 13:52.
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