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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by dridge11 View Post
    Did a little 2009 and 2010 Lapierre Morgon and some 09 Switchback Ridge Petite Sirah.
    How were the morgons? I've got the 2009/2010 sleeping along with some of the 2009 cuvée MMIX. Are these starting to unwind or still need a bit of time?

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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by dridge11 View Post
    I tend to like Barolo better than BdM. We had a 1985 Marcarini Barolo Brunate earlier this year that was singing!
    I agree with you; a slight preference toward Barolo although I like both. I would say that in either case I generally favor and have had more luck with the more traditional producers when it comes to cellaring.

    In my limited experience, although it may take longer for a more traditional producer's wines to reach their peak, they stay there longer; the decline is more gradual and graceful - you never seem to have to worry as much as to whether you let it go over the hill too far.
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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Clavius View Post
    Damn, you guys drink some wines I can only dream of trying!
    I know the feeling - I get the same feeling when reading about bourbon dusties...!

    If you have a spot that stays reasonably cool and humid, you can build a little passive cellar if you want to buy a bottle or two to lay down for awhile. That is how I started - it grew slowly over the next 20 years. Before you know it, you'll have a nice little collection.
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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Tico View Post
    How were the morgons? I've got the 2009/2010 sleeping along with some of the 2009 cuvée MMIX. Are these starting to unwind or still need a bit of time?
    Had an 2009 Lapierre about a month ago. It will age well for another 10 years, IMHO.

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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Clavius View Post
    Damn, you guys drink some wines I can only dream of trying!
    I'm sure I'd dream of these wines if the labels were in Greek, because most of this thread is Greek to me.

    I love wine, I have an idea of what to expect out of grapes and what grapes I generally prefer, but I'll be damned if I can keep track of names, estates, vintages, terroir, etc. I also am not in any kind of position to spend hundreds or even tens of dollars usually on a bottle that is consumed so quickly.

    I'm mostly happy with what I can find in the $15-$25 range. I'm sure some of that pleasure might be spoiled if I knew what I was missing.

    So hey, I'll just throw this out there to the wine snobs : Refer me to some sub-$20 bottles of anything. With red I prefer medium to light-bodied, but I like to taste the soil, and prefer a spice to oak in the heavier-bodied ones. With white, I'd love something round and refreshing with muted lemon and slightly creamy butter, but I hate oaky chardonnays.

    But yeah, I'd love some affordable suggestions in any style! TIA!
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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWF View Post
    I'm mostly happy with what I can find in the $15-$25 range. I'm sure some of that pleasure might be spoiled if I knew what I was missing.

    So hey, I'll just throw this out there to the wine snobs : Refer me to some sub-$20 bottles of anything. With red I prefer medium to light-bodied, but I like to taste the soil, and prefer a spice to oak in the heavier-bodied ones. With white, I'd love something round and refreshing with muted lemon and slightly creamy butter, but I hate oaky chardonnays.

    But yeah, I'd love some affordable suggestions in any style! TIA!
    Sounds like Lapierre Morgon to me!

    The 2010 was SLOW to open up, but super tasty later in the evening and on day 2 and 3. The 2009 was a beauty as well. When we did the 2010 Lapierre the first night, it was side by side with the 2010 Foillard Morgon Cote du Py and the Foillard was our favorite all night long.

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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWF View Post
    I'm sure I'd dream of these wines if the labels were in Greek, because most of this thread is Greek to me.

    I love wine, I have an idea of what to expect out of grapes and what grapes I generally prefer, but I'll be damned if I can keep track of names, estates, vintages, terroir, etc. I also am not in any kind of position to spend hundreds or even tens of dollars usually on a bottle that is consumed so quickly.

    I'm mostly happy with what I can find in the $15-$25 range. I'm sure some of that pleasure might be spoiled if I knew what I was missing.

    So hey, I'll just throw this out there to the wine snobs : Refer me to some sub-$20 bottles of anything. With red I prefer medium to light-bodied, but I like to taste the soil, and prefer a spice to oak in the heavier-bodied ones. With white, I'd love something round and refreshing with muted lemon and slightly creamy butter, but I hate oaky chardonnays.

    But yeah, I'd love some affordable suggestions in any style! TIA!
    Come on, Aaron. You're a Bourbon snob of the highest order, and you comment eloquently on every bourbon from current OGD to PHC Cognac Finish to High West 21yr. This thread is titled "What are you drinking?" not "What's a value pour?"

    That said, the Selbach that I referenced is $19.99, and the Lapierre Morgon can be had for $25.99. Neither would break your bank.

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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by dridge11 View Post
    Sounds like Lapierre Morgon to me!
    Thanks, I'll go look for it ASAP!

    Quote Originally Posted by White Dog View Post
    Come on, Aaron. You're a Bourbon snob of the highest order, and you comment eloquently on every bourbon from current OGD to PHC Cognac Finish to High West 21yr. This thread is titled "What are you drinking?" not "What's a value pour?"

    That said, the Selbach that I referenced is $19.99, and the Lapierre Morgon can be had for $25.99. Neither would break your bank.
    Well that's great news. And yes, my question may have been a bit off topic, but I didn't think it warranted a separate thread.

    You'll get no argument from me regarding my bourbon snobbery; doesn't mean I can't refer to people whose wine talk goes over my head as snobs! You know how nerd used to be derogatory, but now it's cool? Well, maybe we should take snob in that direction as well...
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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWF View Post
    Refer me to some sub-$20 bottles of anything. With red I prefer medium to light-bodied, but I like to taste the soil, and prefer a spice to oak in the heavier-bodied ones. With white, I'd love something round and refreshing with muted lemon and slightly creamy butter, but I hate oaky chardonnays.

    But yeah, I'd love some affordable suggestions in any style! TIA!
    Good wine is everywhere now - generally speaking, values can be found in the lesser known regions.

    For reds, sounds like you would like Pinot Noirs and Sangiovese - both are sensitive to where they are grown (in wine geek speak, reflect their terroir), have an earthy note, and are (generally) light to medium bodied.

    A good value in Pinot Noir that is usually widely available is A to Z Pinot Noir from Oregon - usually can be found for $15-$18. There are also some good affordable Pinots coming out of New Zealand and Patagonia.

    For Sangiovese, a good value and widely available is Viticcio Chianti Classico or Monsanto Chianti Classico Riserva - you can usually find these for $15-$20.

    For whites, sounds like you should seek out unoaked Chardonnays - these are prevalent now. The creamy, buttery note you are looking for however is usually the result of a barrel-fermented Chardonnay that is put through malolactic fermentation - so depending on how long they stay in barrel, these wines can also pick up an oak-note. The closest thing I know of that matches the profile you are looking for is Chablis from Burgundy, but entry price here usually starts above $50.

    On the value side, something a bit different is Torrontes, found in Argentina - Crios de Susana Balbo is pretty widely available. Pinot Gris (Oregon) or Pinot Grigio (Italy) can all be found for less than $20 - here you'll get the lemon, but not the butter.
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    Re: What wine are you drinking? Spring 2012

    I love Cabernet Sauvignon. Typically I like them bold with dark fruit and oak and cedar notes. Unfortunately Cabs, especially Napa Cabs, can be pricey. Are there any specific "new world" producers of Cabernet Sauvignon along these lines? Or is the terroir too different from Napa?

 

 

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