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    Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    I cracked open my newly purchased Vintage Bourbon 17 because I wanted to put to rest a few floating rumors.

    It's most definitely a wheated bourbon. On the nose it shares some similarities to S-W but it's faint. My tasting notes are rich deep caramel and vanilla with very little spice. It has extremely smooth edges and has no heat or burn on either the arrival or finish.

    I compared this to the following:

    • Pappy 20 Sample (thanks to Luther.r for the sample)
    • 81' BIB Old Fitz Sample (thanks to Luther.r for the sample)
    • PHC 4th Edition Wheated Sample (thanks to Luther.r for the sample)
    • JPS 18 Batch 25
    • Pappy 15 from 2008
    So based on both math and flavor profile I don't think this is S-W juice. It could be Bernheim. It's very good and the price range here in Dallas, TX is around 54 bux.

    The Berheim original I have is too young to really compare the nose and flavor so it didn't compare very well.

    I would love top hear any other thoughts or opinions on this year's release of Vintage Bourbon 17; that is if any one has picked it up yet?

    Of course I emailed KBD, but I seriously doubt they'll give me any sort of answer.
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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Love this juice. I have a bottle that I'm dying to open, just can't justify it currently with 30+ open bottles on the shelf right now. Now that's an alcohol problem!

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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Current Vintage 17 is a wheater, and it was distilled at pre-HH Bernheim.

    Comparing it to Bernheim Original, as you suggest, would not show you too much, as that is a Str8 Wheat Whiskey, and not a wheated Bourbon.

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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by White Dog View Post
    Current Vintage 17 is a wheater, and it was distilled at pre-HH Bernheim.
    Is there a way tell current bottlings from previous ones?
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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    It is certainly bunkerable!! I've currently got one opened which has been very good. It has this really sweet softness that I savor in a good wheater.

    In adddition to what I have stashed of this, I plan to add more.

    B
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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil T View Post
    Is there a way tell current bottlings from previous ones?
    Some have said the earlier rye-recipe Vintage 17 had a different shade of green wax, but I've never seen one in person.

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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    After reading the original post, I cracked open the Vintage 17 bottle tonight. I only drink one glass a night, but this is one of those really pleasant bourbons that tempts you to pour another once it's done.

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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by frayed99 View Post
    After reading the original post, I cracked open the Vintage 17 bottle tonight. I only drink one glass a night, but this is one of those really pleasant bourbons that tempts you to pour another once it's done.
    Absolutely. I have to admit I was a bit surprised it was as good as it was. I have recently been disappointed....*cough* Willet 7yr *cough*.
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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil T View Post
    Is there a way tell current bottlings from previous ones?
    The green label on one is darker than the other, but I forgot which is which.
    Perhaps someone will enlighten us.
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    Re: Vintage Bourbon 17 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by BourbonJoe View Post
    The green label on one is darker than the other, but I forgot which is which.
    Perhaps someone will enlighten us.
    Joe
    I picked up a V17 last fall and right out of the gate it was superb - so I went back and picked up the only other one on the shelf. When I got home, I noticed that the wording on the back label of the most recent purchase was the same as the first bottle, but it was in a different font - almost like in italics. Maybe the store had an older bottle behind the newer one? I can tell no difference in the shades of green even when next to each other.

    For what it's worth, when I got back into the first bottle, it seemed like it had changed dramatically - not as good as first opened - even over different nights. It got pushed to the back of the cabinet but now - months later - it has gotten much better again.

    The store where I got those 2 has been out all winter but a few weeks ago - there are a couple more. So I pick up one of the new ones - I assume a 2012 - and the font on the back label is back to the normal font.

    I know this didn't help at all - but there was some sort of change in the printing of the back labels at some point...
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