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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Yes, you don't need that other, it just gives the general idea.

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Another plan but following Jono's general approach: substitute a smoky, woody bourbon for the peated malt. EC 18 or 20, say, or one of the very aged Van Winkle line.

    Do both, the Campfire-inspired and then the all-American one: which is better?

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    I am not great at identifying multiple taste elements but here goes my rough attempt...

    1st attempt...4RSB 60%, Talisker 10% and Old Overholt 30%....eyeballed the proportions. I let it sit a bit to let the Talisker play nice with the bourbon and rye.
    The nose, after sitting, retains some initial peat but less than upon first pour. The sweet elements - corn and honey rise up with just a trace of spice.
    Taste...peat is present that wraps around the sweeter bourbon and very light spice. Finish is peaty with some leather and wood.

    I have to get the Highwest Campfire to compare. I suspect the Talisker may be too much, a lighter peat touch may be the way to go. Also, a spicier rye may help.

    2nd attempt - I added some Rittenhouse to the original vat...so the rough ratios are 4rsb 45%, Talisker 5% and rye..Old O / Ritt 100 45%

    Nose, hint of peat, more spice and retains the corn and honey sweetness.
    Taste...actualy, very nice, smooth, initially a unique blend of sweet and spicy peat and then peat is present on the finish with leather and wood notes.

    I would say, don't go strong on the peated scotch, maybe use an eye dropper and titrate the bourbon and rye vatting carefully.

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    Vat The Jack

    I've tried before; I can't remember the bourbon or rye, but the scotch was HP12. I didn't consider the vatting a success and my biggest problem was that it wasn't peated enough for my taste. I could do with Campfire being more peated as well.

    I'll try again, and I'm thinking that I might go high end - a barrel strength FR, THH, and Ardbeg Corryvreckan - it's only a splash of each, after all. There seems to be a bit of romance in blending whiskeys at cask strength.
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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Since the peat can quickly overwhelm the vatting, and it sounds like the Campfire has just a hint, so creating a mimick will take quite a few side by side comparisons.

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Good experiments, No. 2 sounds great.

    What I've found is, when a proportion isn't right, sometimes reducing it helps, but also sometimes too, adding more.

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Today I had an idea for the 2 JDSB I sampled head to head in another thread. One delicate and nice, the other bold, flavourful, and in your face. I decided to make a mingling of the two. My 1st attempt was 2 parts #12-6714 (delicate) with 1 part 12-6500 (bold). The bold JDSB flavour was too dominant. Then I tried 4 parts delicate and 1 part bold. They seemed to come together rather well at this ratio.

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    This sounds very good, different proportions can make a big difference in the result.

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    Killer vatting here, 1/3rd each Jack Black, Jack Master Distiller Series 86 proof, and Silver Select. Silky soft but big rich flavours of American straight whiskey (creosote, copper, char), each contributes qualities to make this a luxury dram. I read William Faulkner saved Jack Daniels for special occasions so I raise this glass to him, a tribute not so distant in geography; he trained in Toronto with the British Air Force for half a year but the war ended before he could be sent overseas. I guess he made do with Canadian whisky when up here, but he'd have liked this vat of Jack, of that I have no doubt. Hemingway also lived here, about a stone's throw from where I type, in fact, another story…

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    Re: Vat The Jack

    My go to whiskey has been JDSB. Tonight I had JD Master Distiller Series #1 86proof, and I am thinking it needs something to balance it. It seems it has lots of extra spice, and wood-char...it can definately be made better. Have 3 JDSB bottles in cabinet and some JD Black. Not sure I want to try 3 x 1/3 each like Gary did because I like the SB too much. I'm thinking the sweet mellow Gentleman Jack will kick down the spice and wood-char a notch, and add more sweetness (It might taste closer to the White Rabbit Saloon after mixing). Maybe instead of 1/3 JD Silver Select I will add 1/3 Gentleman Jack.......

 

 

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