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  1. #11
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    I have a bottle of Saz 18 that has been open for just over a year. It's about half gone. It did drop off a bit in the first six months or so, but I revisited it this weekend with a few pours and at seems to be holding steady for now. The nose has improved a little, actually.
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  2. #12
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    The volitle chemicals that give rye its nose are easily lost would be my theory.

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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Not good news for my Bowman, not good news at all. It's down to a little under a half and I was hoping to kind of nurse it until later in the year.
    "I think I'll just stay here and drink"
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Quote Originally Posted by Brisko View Post
    I have a bottle of Saz 18 that has been open for just over a year. It's about half gone. It did drop off a bit in the first six months or so, but I revisited it this weekend with a few pours and at seems to be holding steady for now. The nose has improved a little, actually.
    I finally got around to sampling my long-open bottle of Saz 18 as well and could not detect any drop off in overall quality. There may be a slight fade in spice, replaced by a bit more sweetness but don't hold me to that. Whatever the case may be, we thoroughly enjoyed our pours last night and will move on to a bottle of VWFRR that's now down to two inches after sitting for a long spell.
    "I distrust a man who says 'when.' He's got to be careful not to drink too much, because he's not to be trusted when he does." Sydney Greenstreet

  5. #15
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Gotta chime in and say, yeah, especially w/r/t Saz 18 the drop off can be astounding. I am really impulsive in terms of hitting my best sh&% when it's available, so I take the stuff I want to conserve and shove it in the nether reigons of my cabinet or even squirrel it away in coat closets behind piles of boots and whatnot.

    Dug out a 2010 Saz 18 after about 6 months with 1/3 left and it was gone baby gone, as in, "This rye whiskey has passed on! This rye is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! It's kicked the bucket, shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-RYE WHISKEY!!"

    I think the real question that needs answering is whether this is a Saz 18 phenomenon or a old rye phenomenon. I more recently watched this flaccidity occur with a 2011 Saz 18, though I did go with Option 3 (I am using this code word from now on) as long as you stretch the interpretation of "friends to help polish off the bottle" to mean "me drinking most of it and pouring a modest Glencairn for the (soon to be) wifey."

  6. #16
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Quote Originally Posted by LikeItWasSodaPop View Post
    Gotta chime in and say, yeah, especially w/r/t Saz 18 the drop off can be astounding. I am really impulsive in terms of hitting my best sh&% when it's available, so I take the stuff I want to conserve and shove it in the nether reigons of my cabinet or even squirrel it away in coat closets behind piles of boots and whatnot.

    Dug out a 2010 Saz 18 after about 6 months with 1/3 left and it was gone baby gone, as in, "This rye whiskey has passed on! This rye is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! It's kicked the bucket, shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-RYE WHISKEY!!"

    I think the real question that needs answering is whether this is a Saz 18 phenomenon or a old rye phenomenon. I more recently watched this flaccidity occur with a 2011 Saz 18, though I did go with Option 3 (I am using this code word from now on) as long as you stretch the interpretation of "friends to help polish off the bottle" to mean "me drinking most of it and pouring a modest Glencairn for the (soon to be) wifey."
    I use option 3 in the same manner.

    I also experience this drop-off with Vintage 21. Hadn't touched a 1/2 full bottle for about 6 months, and by then it was too late.

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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Surely, you all know this famous nursery rhyme.

    To save my rye
    From the soon-to-be days-gone-by
    I shall ever defer option oneŚ
    To decant some;
    And option twoŚ
    How that gas blew!;
    For option threeŚ
    A generous pour for friends, wifey, and me


    They teach it to us in Kindergarten here in Canada.
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  8. #18
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Jolly good show DBK!

    I was inspired to "Mad Men [My]self" in tribute to your avatar.

    Sucks that the only whiskey option involves ice. Probably accurate, history-wise, though.

    Lots of bow tie options, though, and I appreciate that.

  9. #19
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    Re: Rye and aeration

    Revisiting 2011 Saz 18, haven't had it in a month or so. This is the bottle that has been open since early December. Served in my Glencairn, neat of course. Nose seems a bit better, still the same juicy fruit, did herbs and spice profile that I remember. On the palate is more of th herbal spice and wood with a touch more body than what I remember last time.

    Still a good drink but it's definitely missing the smoothness and concentration that I remember from a few months back.

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    Re: Rye and aeration

    That leaves us with option four
    It requires a trip to the local store.
    Buy some marbles made of glass,
    Whiskey is fading, hustle your (rear)
    Put into the bottle, displace the air
    Show your rye how much you care.
    Now enjoy When'ere you can,
    For the greedy, number four's the plan.

 

 

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