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    5 To Start With

    OK, silly chaps, there is a rule that you should never let a traveling salesman into your house, because if you do, he will mark your curb and all the other traveling salesmen will come a knockin'.

    Since you were so responsive to my last post about tasting, here is another.

    I have not tried very many bourbons that you guys talk about here. As I mentioned in my last post Makers Mark Red and Wild Turkey 101 are what I have at my house.

    What I want is a list of 5 (do not name thee 4, neither name thee 6, 7 is right out. And the number 5, the fifth number being bereached...) bourbon / ryes to try.

    Here is the deal though. I will buy these whiskeys in 375ml at a liquor store. I have to ease Mrs. TexasPride into understanding the benefit of having a lot of whiskey around the house.

    but hon, whiskey does not go bad. I will buy this much and it will be around until I drink it all... I love you...
    Keeping that in mind, help me out with 5 to start with. And don't go all Pappy 23 on me either. I am living on somewhat of a budget...

    Thanks folks.


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    Re: 5 To Start With

    I could name so many more, but being limited to 375ml size... Hmmm, ok here's what I can come up with:

    Knob Creek 375ml - about $15
    Ezra Brooks 101 375ml- about $8
    Makers Mark 375ml - about $12
    Old Forester 375 - about $9
    Wild Turkey Rare Breed 375ml - about $14


    It's hard to get into some Rye's and so many bourbons because you cannot get them in 375ml's... BUT you can get a few 750ml bottles for a very good price and they are fantastic bourbons so if you should want to sub something from above keep these in mind... Ezra Brooks Single Barrel at about $24 for a 750ml and Old Commonwealth for $20 a 750ml. They are both available here at Sams in Chicago.

    Just my input, I am certain many others will give you great selections as well! Enjoy!

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    1. Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old (Don't give me any crapola about it not being available in 375 ml. bottles. You must try this one ASAP. If you don't, you'll hate yourself later for putting it off. Gee, it really feels good to let my true, opinionated nature have its way now and then. Humility gets tiring after a while.)

    (Come to think of it, I have no idea as to which bottlings are available in 375 ml. I almost never see that size bottle, certainly not for the whiskies that I prize most highly.)

    2. Old Rip Van Winkle 10/107.

    3. Wathens Single Barrel

    4. Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 year old

    5. Virginia Gentleman 90 proof/6 year old

    All are in the $20-30 range at my retailers, and well worth the price. IMO, the only reason to spend more is to satisfy one's curiousity. (I should talk. ) I was tempted to cheat and sneak in a sixth bourbon, but your warning frightened me to a faretheewell. BTW, are you a history buff, perchance? Do you know that Abraham Lincoln once lived in Kentucky, near (ahem!) Knob Creek?

    I'm tempted to do another reply under a nom de bourbon to address the bottlings available for less than $20.

    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    I had forgotten about the Old Commonwealth bottling, which we have been told is the same bourbon as the ORVW 10/107 from my list, but at a lower price -- while it lasts.

    Regarding the Ezra Brooks Single Barrel, is that bourbon also referred to as "Ezra B 15 year-old"?

    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    Especially since you have placed the 375 ml limitation, the basic answer is try anything and everything you can find in that size. Everything you taste will be instructive, especially if you haven't tried it before. But lest I run afoul of the numerical proscription, here are five you should be able to find. I'm deliberately excluding the two, MM and WT, you already have, although those are good choices too.

    1. Jack Daniel's
    2. Jim Beam (if, perchance, the black label is available, get that)
    3. Old Grand-Dad (if, perchance, the bonded is available, get that)
    4. Very Old Barton (are you in Texas? If so, it should be available. Get the 100 proof if you can)
    5. Evan Williams

    If you see and wish to try any other than these, look for the words "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" or "Tennessee Whiskey" on the label. In other words, I wouldn't mess with Early Times ("Kentucky Whisky") or any of the American Blends.

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    Regarding the Ezra Brooks Single Barrel, is that bourbon also referred to as "Ezra B 15 year-old"?

    Yessir.

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    Very good list Dave, I agree buy the Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye no matter what, you will not regret it.

    By limiting yourself to 375ml bottles you're not really getting to try some of the better bottlings... Honestly, buy fewer bottles, say 2-3 but get 750ml's, you will be able to try such a better range of fine bourbons. With the 375's you're limited to things like Chuck mentioned like Jack Black, Beam White etc. Now there is nothing wrong with them, but I say get less bottles and try comparing finer bourbon. Hell, even Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve for about $23 is a great bourbon. (though even that will be debated by some haha) I'm sure whatever you choose though TxPride, you'll still enjoy every minute of sampling them!

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    Lucky for you Blantons Single Barrel and Woodford Reserve are available in the 350 ml size. Blantons is a little steep at around 25 bucks. Woodford is about 15 or so . One or the other and any other 4 from any of the previous suggestions will make my 5.

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    Those available to me in 375mls here in Lexington are:

    Knob Creek
    Maker's Mark
    WT 101
    WT 80
    WT Rare Breed
    Old Fitz BIB
    Jim Beam Black
    Jim Beam White
    Woodford Reserve
    Ancient Ancient Age 10yo
    Old Forester 86 proof
    Kentucky Tavern
    Blanton's

    I know that's more than five, but that gives you an idea of what's out there. There are some good bottlings on that list, but keep in mind you will pay much more per ml in this size compared to 750ml bottles. Good luck

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    Re: 5 To Start With

    You guys are awesome.

    I only mentioned 375ml because I need more common stuff.

    I was in Paradise liquors in some little town north of Ft Worth, Tx yesterday, and noticed they carried 5 ryes, including VWF.

    That will be my next buy along with a couple small bottles of bourbons you mentioned.

    I will be sure to tell you guys what I think.

    Hey- Give me your opinion on this if you don't mind.

    I ordered some WT101 neat tonight with dinner. I am 99% sure it was watered down in some fashion. Same flavor, but not 101 proof. I saw the bottle, and it was 101 not 80. How would you guys address something like that?


 

 

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