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  1. #21
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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Rocco,

    Here's a New England area contact for fine bourbon, including Van Winkle:
    Elliot Fishbein, 888-811-6258
    East Providence, RI

    I've ordered from his shop and he's got a better supply than most retailers in Florida.

    Omar




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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Good catch, Bill. I missed that. I have made an inquiry of the Bowman folks and will let you know what I find out.

    --Chuck Cowdery

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    That has always been my understanding as well. For one thing, Bowman has been buying from Heaven Hill longer than Heaven Hill has been making wheated bourbon. I bet the website was a mistake. I have made an inquiry to the Bowman people and will report anything I hear.

    --Chuck Cowdery

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    I would be very interestd to know what they tell you. I have drank a lot of Virginia Gentelman before they quit making their own whiskey. Even though I didn't know wheat from rye at that time I would think that if it had been wheated then that would be a flavor that I would be quite fond of, and therefore would be a hardcore pro-wheater. It may be that what is now going into the 80 proof red label is wheated. I haven't tasted it in many years. I only remember it as being dreadful. I vowed never to buy another bottle.

    Linn Spencer

    Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Jim,

    I told u dat ever time ya make a post i half ta git mi dictinery ta figur what ya sain.

    BOONE

    P. S. sent you a package Thursday (priority mail) you should get it in 3 days.


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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Most likely scenario: The kid writing the web site was stealing stuff from the Maker's Mark web site and thought all bourbon is made with wheat.

    --Chuck Cowdery

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Well, I guess we have to add Virginia Gentleman to the "Wheated" list. I inquired about their formula and received the following reply:

    Dear Sir,
    Virginia Gentleman was originally made with rye but when we
    moved our plant and changed our process we changed to wheat.
    Joe Dangler
    V.P. Production
    Distiller


    --Chuck Cowdery

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    When did they do that?
    And I guess that means they haven't been buying their low wines from Heaven Hill (since HH only just now started making wheaties), so where are they buying it from?
    Say... I know a little distillery just outside of Frankfort...

    =John=
    http://w3.one.net/~jeffelle/whiskey

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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Sorry John, Virginia Gentleman moved its distillery in 1988 according to my notes and that is only 13 years ago.
    Mike Veach


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    Re: Wheated vs. Non-Wheated, Comprehensive List?

    Heaven Hill has always sold bulk whiskey, but they didn't do contract distilling as such. The difference is that with contract distilling, the principal dictates the mash bill, the distillation proof, everything. Barton and Buffalo Trace are two distilleries that, at least in the past, have done contract distilling. One of them might be the source.

    --Chuck Cowdery

 

 

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