Willett Pot Still - How come we never discuss it?

[Josh]

Back on topic . . .

How dare you!

Mods, please delete Gary's on topic post.

[BradleyC]

Wanting to know where something was made makes one overly entitled? Okay then.

no. simply wanting to know does not make you over entitled. calling someone a fraud because they dont give you the answer you demand when they are contractually bound not to disclose is different.

[squire]

Bradley I believe the only paper involved is a bill of sale.

[BradleyC]

Bradley I believe the only paper involved is a bill of sale.

I have no proof but have heard otherwise. I've also heard that none of the majors are in the bulk whiskey marketplace. As Chuck says, "they don't sell bulk whiskey until they do." (please correct that quote if I got it wrong. I didn't look it up first so I"m sure I did mess it up)

[BradleyC]

Bradley I believe the only paper involved is a bill of sale.

How about this? A paper bill of sale and gentleman's agreement to keep your mouth shut?

[ChainWhip]

I like the bottle but it takes up too much room. It's an "ok" whiskey but I'd rather drink the other bottles in my cabinet - there's just so much other better whiskey out there.

[squire]

That's my issue Bradley, it's all hearsay, which makes interesting cocktail conversation but is dispositive of nothing. My reasoning is since the Shipiras started up Heaven Hill in 1935 they made a name in the industry for bulk whisky sales. They would sell it new, they would age it for the customer in their warehouses, bottle it when the customer was ready, use custom labels, etc., a ready when your want it service and certainly no secret. In fact today in States that allow grocery store liquor sales the house brands for Kroger, Albertsons and others are Heaven Hill products and it's no secret. Even smaller entities, I knew a fellow who owned a small liquor store in the Georgetown area of DC who sold his own house brand of Bourbon, which he claimed, was made especially for him by this little distillery in Kentucky. It was obvious, an HH standard bottle, DSP, address, all on the back label. The only thing custom about it was the label which did identify his store as the brand. It also sold for a couple of dollars more than the identical HH whisky on the shelf close to it. When I politely queried the owner he smiled, sorta winked and implied that it was a special deal that only a few people could get and It was a long standing relationship, which it probably was. My point is HH did this for one store which shows how involved they are/were in the we'll make it for you business.

With that history and open exposure as supplier to National chain stores why would HH single out little old KBD for a one off contract essentially saying 'shuss, don't tell anybody we sold you this, it's a secret'. Only KBD benefits from such subterfuge.

[sailor22]

I know, lets talk about something we haven't covered before.........Know where I can get some Van Winkey?

[Restaurant man]

I know, lets talk about something we haven't covered before.........Know where I can get some Van Winkey?

Actually, I heard they were putting the lost barrels into WPSR.

[Halifax]

I've rolled some fine women over the years. I knew next to nothing about them or their past. Didn't give a shit... It was great ass.

My name is Rod. I like GREAT bourbon. I don't give a flying flip where it comes from.