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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChainWhip View Post
    Resistance is futile :-)
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    Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinjoe View Post
    This may be your first test to see if you have whiskirexia nervosa like the rest of us. I'm guessing you gots it...Here's what happens...You want to only choose one. You even ask for advice on which one to pick. Of course, our advice is to get both. But, you think that's silly. You're not as sick as "those people" on SB. You make up your mind, and choose "the one" you're going to get. You get to the store, and see them both there. Confidently, you reach for your choice...but something whispers in your ear, and gives you doubt. You lustily look at the other bottle. Now, back to your first choice. You begin to try and add quickly in your head...$38 plus...$55...plus tax...Dammit!! You start to perspire. You now can't make that decision you were so sure was "right". You begin to pace. You divert your attention to the bottom shelf in a feeble attempt to stem the tide of Temptation. You look back up...it's worse...You begin to justify that you can, and should, get both. Yeah. What to tell the wife? Figure that one out later. You tell yourself, "I deserve these!!" Plus, you figure you can just leave one in the car, and only take one into the house....yeah, that's what you can do. Then. Then, you notice that other...THIRD bottle you didn't see before...a CEHT, or a 2012 PHC, or possibly a 2012 4RSmB LE??? Maybe, you should get that one, too. You know, there's only one on the shelf. It might be gone when ("if" is not in the equation) you get back there...You have to do it. Get it...NOW...Then, you figure, you might as well get your "everydayer pours", while you're there. Sure, why not? An OGD here . An Evan Williams, there. What's that? Never seen the OWA??? EVerybody raves about it...$24. Not bad, you say, and drop it in the buggy, too. You reason that you can drink those, and not rip through the expensive bottles you just talked yourself in to. Makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? So, when you get to the register, instead of one bottle in a bag, the checkout guy begins looking for a Svedka Vodka box to put your collection in, and offering to help you carry it to your car...

    Don't resist. It's futile.

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Matt if the choice is one or the other I would go with the OFBB. This is a rich, full, characterful Bourbon that is suitable for any use or occasion.

    When the EC18 first came out I bought a bottle, liked it, went back and got a case. We always had some around for years for no particular reason other than it was unique, the only regular production aged Bourbon on the market back then, but when the supply ran out it didn't occur to me to replace it.

    Most Bourbons will peak somewhere between 6-8 years, which is to say when the sugars have been fully extracted from the wood and the whisky has reached a balance point of maturity beyond which it begins to go downhill. It's not uncommon for some barrels to take a few years longer and there are some very good whiskys in the 10-12 year range, but most have gone woody by then and even the ones that happen to age gracefully beyond 12 years take on characteristics of an old Cognac rather than a Bourbon. Some like these old whiskys, some find them tired out, some just want to impress their friends with a label because everybody knows older is better, right?

    My preference is for those whiskys that are at their prime so I want the fruit when it's ripe and not at some arbitrary stated age.

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    just got an EC 20 and I'm happy with it. maybe not thrilled with what I paid, considering what the 18 cost, but I like the taste. I'd love to find a leftover EC 18 for comparison, but am not holding my breath......unless........ If you decide on the OFBB, could you grab the EC and send it to me?
    "A man can take a little bourbon without getting drunk, but if you hold his mouth open and pour in a quart, he's going to get sick on it."
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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinjoe View Post
    This may be your first test to see if you have whiskirexia nervosa like the rest of us. I'm guessing you gots it...Here's what happens...You want to only choose one. You even ask for advice on which one to pick. Of course, our advice is to get both. But, you think that's silly. You're not as sick as "those people" on SB. You make up your mind, and choose "the one" you're going to get. You get to the store, and see them both there. Confidently, you reach for your choice...but something whispers in your ear, and gives you doubt. You lustily look at the other bottle. Now, back to your first choice. You begin to try and add quickly in your head...$38 plus...$55...plus tax...Dammit!! You start to perspire. You now can't make that decision you were so sure was "right". You begin to pace. You divert your attention to the bottom shelf in a feeble attempt to stem the tide of Temptation. You look back up...it's worse...You begin to justify that you can, and should, get both. Yeah. What to tell the wife? Figure that one out later. You tell yourself, "I deserve these!!" Plus, you figure you can just leave one in the car, and only take one into the house....yeah, that's what you can do. Then. Then, you notice that other...THIRD bottle you didn't see before...a CEHT, or a 2012 PHC, or possibly a 2012 4RSmB LE??? Maybe, you should get that one, too. You know, there's only one on the shelf. It might be gone when ("if" is not in the equation) you get back there...You have to do it. Get it...NOW...Then, you figure, you might as well get your "everydayer pours", while you're there. Sure, why not? An OGD here . An Evan Williams, there. What's that? Never seen the OWA??? EVerybody raves about it...$24. Not bad, you say, and drop it in the buggy, too. You reason that you can drink those, and not rip through the expensive bottles you just talked yourself in to. Makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? So, when you get to the register, instead of one bottle in a bag, the checkout guy begins looking for a Svedka Vodka box to put your collection in, and offering to help you carry it to your car...

    Don't resist. It's futile.

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    HAHAHA! This is great--one of the funniest posts I've seen!

    Thank you for the diagnosis--this has happened to me a couple times already (the back-and forth, the perspiration, the leaving my purchases in the car until the wife is in bed, etc.) and I was wondering what it was! Knowing is half the battle, right? And I was just thinking after reading some of the responses that "heck, I'm going to end up buying both of these dang bottles because of the SB peer pressure!"

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    It's a Bourbonian thing, others wouldn't understand.

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    I show my wife the pictures in the "show us your stash" thread to show her what craziness looks like and that my 29 bottle collection is really nothing. It works.

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinjoe View Post
    This may be your first test to see if you have whiskirexia nervosa like the rest of us. I'm guessing you gots it...Here's what happens...You want to only choose one. You even ask for advice on which one to pick. Of course, our advice is to get both. But, you think that's silly. You're not as sick as "those people" on SB. You make up your mind, and choose "the one" you're going to get. You get to the store, and see them both there. Confidently, you reach for your choice...but something whispers in your ear, and gives you doubt. You lustily look at the other bottle. Now, back to your first choice. You begin to try and add quickly in your head...$38 plus...$55...plus tax...Dammit!! You start to perspire. You now can't make that decision you were so sure was "right". You begin to pace. You divert your attention to the bottom shelf in a feeble attempt to stem the tide of Temptation. You look back up...it's worse...You begin to justify that you can, and should, get both. Yeah. What to tell the wife? Figure that one out later. You tell yourself, "I deserve these!!" Plus, you figure you can just leave one in the car, and only take one into the house....yeah, that's what you can do. Then. Then, you notice that other...THIRD bottle you didn't see before...a CEHT, or a 2012 PHC, or possibly a 2012 4RSmB LE??? Maybe, you should get that one, too. You know, there's only one on the shelf. It might be gone when ("if" is not in the equation) you get back there...You have to do it. Get it...NOW...Then, you figure, you might as well get your "everydayer pours", while you're there. Sure, why not? An OGD here . An Evan Williams, there. What's that? Never seen the OWA??? EVerybody raves about it...$24. Not bad, you say, and drop it in the buggy, too. You reason that you can drink those, and not rip through the expensive bottles you just talked yourself in to. Makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? So, when you get to the register, instead of one bottle in a bag, the checkout guy begins looking for a Svedka Vodka box to put your collection in, and offering to help you carry it to your car...

    Don't resist. It's futile.

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    Dang it Joe, it is like I'm standing there in the aisle with you. The only part you left out was justifying moving your cost into three figures by telling yourself that you should get enough bottles to ask the clerk or manager to give you a case (or quantity discount). As the Sveda Vodka box goes into your car, you're thinking 10% of $268.47 is about $27 dollars saved, got the best of that deal. Completely ignoring of that tiny bit of sanity whispering from the back of your brain that you only planned to spend $60 maximum. I find that pouring bourbon from one of the shiny new bottles on that nagging voice will quickly drown it.

    Joel

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Yeah, whisly 'll put that little voice back where it belongs.

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    Re: Which one: EC18 or OFBB 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by jwevan01 View Post
    Dang it Joe, it is like I'm standing there in the aisle with you. The only part you left out was justifying moving your cost into three figures by telling yourself that you should get enough bottles to ask the clerk or manager to give you a case (or quantity discount). As the Sveda Vodka box goes into your car, you're thinking 10% of $268.47 is about $27 dollars saved, got the best of that deal. Completely ignoring of that tiny bit of sanity whispering from the back of your brain that you only planned to spend $60 maximum. I find that pouring bourbon from one of the shiny new bottles on that nagging voice will quickly drown it.

    Joel
    See Joel, what you do in this instance is put that originally budgeted $60 into a Future Purchases Account. Since the $268.47 so far exceeded the $60 plan, the $60 is actually unused funds, and can be applied to additional whiskey purchases at a later date, as long as you do so within 48 hrs. In addition, the 10% savings you realized ($27--nice job of rounding UP, by the way. But, I always round up to the nearest $10 increment. So, really it should be $30...) can also be applied to your Future Purchases Account. Therefore in the end, you accumulated $87 ($90 if it were me...) of free money for future bourbon purchases!!! Voila!, you now have the extra cash available to indeed pick up that bottle of 2012 PHC today that you couldn't afford yesterday!! You actually are paying yourself by spending more!!! It's a no-brainer in my book.

    I know this may sound complicated to the recently diagnosed Whiskirexia Nervosans, but this is just general basic Whiskey Accounting Principles 101.

    We'll be getting more advanced as we discuss the WET (Washington Excessive Tax) deduction. I'll expand on this later, but basically you get to deduct the excessive tax rate you would have payed had you purchased your whiskey in Washington, from the amount you claim you spent to your wife. In a nutshell, in your example above, The WET deduction would allow you to legally claim an expenditure of ~$189 to your wife, instead of the $268.47. And, (heres the good part!) the deduction can be fully deposited into your Future Purchases Account!!
    JOE

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