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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Barrel #1 of the 2003 Vintage was just named the number two whiskey of the Spring by JHansell

    Should I buy a case before it becomes more expensive or gets watered down?

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefeller View Post
    Barrel #1 of the 2003 Vintage was just named the number two whiskey of the Spring by JHansell

    Should I buy a case before it becomes more expensive or gets watered down?
    Based on my personal experience with the EC20 perhaps only if you can get a case from Barrel #1! Otherwise it is definitely "Caveat Emptor"...

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    When in doubt buy a case.

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Okay, on another forum I saw mention of barrel #1049 bottled 11/21/12. I think that ranks as the highest mention yet. That's 1 week before Chuck's 2003 barrel #1. I would assume there is no overlap between 'vintage years'.

    SFS, why would you assume 140pf for the dumped barrels? That's a rather high dump proof, considering that barrel entry must be no greater than 125pf.
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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    They tend to make the EWSBV picks from high floors and the dump proof can be really high, even higher than 140, but I picked that (arbitrarily) as typical. Dump proofs being higher, even much higher, than barrel entry proof is pretty typical in Kentucky.

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiSon View Post
    SFS, why would you assume 140pf for the dumped barrels? That's a rather high dump proof, considering that barrel entry must be no greater than 125pf.
    I was just running the numbers, with the constants supplied by Chuck. Note that he also chose (arbitrarily?) a final proof of 86.6, and I ran the numbers again at a final proof of 84, after Squire asked. I can't remember what it is actually bottled at, and the bottles have hit the recycling already, for both my 2001 and 2002.

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Well, Stagg releases seem to average about 140pf, but that's with 50% more aging. Handy's releases seem to average about 130pf with 20% less aging. I would think 130pf would be a closer average, but that's with rather limited information on my part.

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    Quote Originally Posted by SFS View Post
    But the math looks like this.
    40 gallons = 151.4 Liters
    1 Liter of 140 proof bourbon + 0.6166 L water = 1.616 L of 86.6 proof bourbon (this is actually not quite correct, with respect to volume, because 100 mL of water + 100 mL of pure ethanol will not yield 200 mL of liquid, regardless of the proof of that liquid, but that is another topic. For the sake of estimation, I'll not worry about that factor.)

    997 barrels X 151.4 liters = 150,945.8 L of 140 proof.

    Each of those 150,946 L needs 0.6166 L water, so that's another 93,073 L.

    150,946 + 93,073 = 244,019 L which would make 325,358 bottles (of 750 mL each). At $23 each, that's $7,483,249.

    Note: Beginning at the line that starts with "Each of", I rounded to whole units.
    Remember that "...At $23 each, that's $7,483,249...." means gross retail sales (and not the amount Heaven Hill receives).

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    Re: Evan Williams Single Barrel 2002 Vintage

    I believe it comes down to the profile the blenders choose for a specific brand and if the barrels that meet that profile come from the higher floors of the warehouse the proof will be greater.

 

 

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