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    EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Simple question, which do you prefer Evan Williams Black Label at 86 proof or Very Old Barton at 86 (not 100) proof. Easy for me, VOB by a landslide.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Yeah, definitely the VOB!

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Quote Originally Posted by Clavius View Post
    Yeah, definitely the VOB!
    I know it sounds counter intuitive but I actually prefer VOB 86 to VOB BIB. Hopefully Buffalo Trace/Sazerac does not ruin what Barton has going on here.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Squire is the master of VOB here... looking forward to what he has to say about this subject.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Who me? Yes, I prefer the Barton profile yet in some ways the EWB is a more complex whisky. Of the two Barton, even though a very clean, straightforward whisky, is at the same time heavier in body and fuller in flavor than EW. I'll just address the two brands as they appear on the shelves today:

    Very Old Barton, 80-86-90-100 proof, age stated as 6 years.

    Barton is an old school take no prisoners style whisky of singular character that you take as is because it's not gonna change to suit you. It tastes older than six years to me but to say it's 7-8 years old would imply tasting skills beyond my reach. Full bodied with a deep, well balanced aroma that brings forth traditional Bourbon elements of vanilla-oak and maple-caramel with a definite rye spiciness. The rye element is more apparent in the taste, so much so that if you gave it to someone in a blind tasting and told them it was a rye whisky many people would believe you.

    Evan Williams Black Label, 86 proof, no age statement.

    This brand was created as a Jack Daniels imitation right down to the square bottle and black label, even similar font style and wording. The brand has matured to stand in it's own right as the second largest selling Bourbon in the country today and it didn't get there overnight so it is a well thought out, carefully made whisky. This is Heaven Hill's flagship brand and they are very careful to keep it consistent, which it is. This whisky has higher social aspirations than Barton but it's genteel veneer doesn't fully conceal it's gutsy, solid Bourbon nature. Medium bodied with a nose similar to Barton but slightly milder and noticeably more sweet. With the rye downplayed some writers have described the taste as having malt elements but I do not find it so, rather a solid, mature Bourbon with the edges rounded off. This is the brand I recommend to the young hostess who asks me for 'a good Bourbon' to fill out the selection of spirits at a social event. It will please those who drown their whisky with mixers and won't offend those who actually want some taste in their glass.

    If you already drink Bourbon I recommend Barton hands down, just get a bottle of EWB also for your wife and her friends.
    Last edited by squire; 03-04-2013 at 22:50.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Nice write-up, Squire --- I knew you'd make me even more jealous that I can't get VOB here.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Squire, thank you for this level of analysis. I enjoy all your posts, and it's nice to see some lengthier discourse. I suspect you may have tired of writing when you worked, but I like your style, and hope for more.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Quote Originally Posted by weller_tex View Post
    I know it sounds counter intuitive but I actually prefer VOB 86 to VOB BIB. Hopefully Buffalo Trace/Sazerac does not ruin what Barton has going on here.
    I don't think it's counter intuitive, as they have more dump leeway with a non-BIB.

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    Who me? Yes, I prefer the Barton profile yet in some ways the EWB is a more complex whisky. Of the two Barton, even though a very clean, straightforward whisky, is at the same time heavier in body and fuller in flavor than EW. I'll just address the two brands as they appear on the shelves today:

    Very Old Barton, 80-86-90-100 proof, age stated as 6 years.

    Barton is an old school take no prisoners style whisky of singular character that you take as is because it's not gonna change to suit you. It tastes older than six years to me but to say it's 7-8 years old would imply tasting skills beyond my reach. Full bodied with a deep, well balanced aroma that brings forth traditional Bourbon elements of vanilla-oak and maple-caramel with a definite rye spiciness. The rye element is more apparent in the taste, so much so that if you gave it to someone in a blind tasting and told them it was a rye whisky many people would believe you.

    Evan Williams Black Label, 86 proof, no age statement.

    This brand was created as a Jack Daniels imitation right down to the square bottle and black label, even similar font style and wording. The brand has matured to stand in it's own right as the second largest selling Bourbon in the country today and it didn't get there overnight so it is a well thought out, carefully made whisky. This is Heaven Hill's flagship brand and they are very careful to keep it consistent, which it is. This whisky has higher social aspirations than Barton but it's genteel veneer doesn't fully conceal it's gutsy, solid Bourbon nature. Medium bodied with a nose similar to Barton but slightly milder and noticeably more sweet. With the rye downplayed some writers have described the taste as having malt elements but I do not find it so, rather a solid, mature Bourbon with the edges rounded off. This is the brand I recommend to the young hostess who asks me for 'a good Bourbon' to fill out the selection of spirits at a social event. It will please those who drown their whisky with mixers and won't offend those who actually want some taste in their glass.

    If you already drink Bourbon I recommend Barton hands down, just get a bottle of EWB also for your wife and her friends.
    Very good writing! I agree 100%

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    Re: EWB 86 pf vs. VOB 86 pf

    Drinks are accepted as tips, I'll be here all night.

 

 

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