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    A Waste of Good Rye?

    This afternoon I sloshed 2-3 ounces of Jim Beam rye over a fist full of ice cubes in a tall water glass and filled it with Reed's Extra Ginger Beer. That left me with a couple of inches of the ginger beer.

    About half-way through my drink I dumped in the rest of the ginger beer and threw in some fresh ice cubes. That made the rest of the drink too weak.

    The JB was way on the other side of the house, but Van Winkle Family Reserve 13 y/o was practically at hand. I wavered momentarily, and then I grabbed the VW and poured in a mighty slosh. The dark color cascaded toward the bottom of the glass.

    I took a sip. It was a much better drink then the original with all JB. The Van Winkle taste came shining through. I'm not about to say that I would give blanket approval to the practice of mixing VWFR with ginger beer, but it does make a superior drink.

    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    I'm torn sometimes by a similar dilemma--my absolute favorite Manhattan is made with Van Winkle 13yo. I almost have to have a moment of silence when I contaminate it with the vermouth. But I forgive myself after the first sip. It's just SOOOO darn good! Sacriledge? Perhaps, but it's a guilty pleasure!


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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    If it is that good, I don't see any problem with it. Enjoy yourselves!

    Tim

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    Dave,
    I'm not about to say that I would give blanket approval to the practice of mixing VWFR with ginger beer, but it does make a superior drink.

    I'll be the first to admit it, I'm a mixer. A card carrying member of AAA (Alcohol Adulterers Anonymous). (hello, my name is Brenda...and I mix good Bourbon with ginger ale)
    Now, because of this group, I'm getting better. I'm learning to actually taste Bourbon. Still, sometimes I mix. But always, superior Bourbon makes a superior drink. Whether it's mixing or cooking, life is too short to drink crappy Bourbon...
    Bj

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    life is too short to drink crappy Bourbon
    Brenda, as William Faulkner once said:

    "There is no such thing as bad whiskey.
    Some whiskeys just happen to be better than others."

    Food for thought


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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    I've discussed this in previous threads, but there is a certain quality level at which I refuse to mix. My Pappy 20, Hirsch 16, Blanton's, Booker's, and OFBB '02 will touch no ginger ale.

    A lot of my exploration in Bourbonia has been to find that perfect 'diamond-in-the-rough'--top-shelf quality with a bottom-shelf pricetag. The closest thing I've found is Buffalo Trace. That's my mixing bourbon right now.


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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    Reminds me of a "whiskey research" article I read in Playboy about 40 years ago. It quoted some old Gaelic saying. I won't attempt to re-quote it in Gaelic, but the translation is, "There's whiskey, and there's good whiskey, but there's no bad whiskey."

    Tim

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    'diamond-in-the-rough'--top-shelf quality with a bottom-shelf pricetag. The closest thing I've found is Buffalo Trace.
    I'm with you One Cube. And another one is W.L Weller 12yr

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    I just saw in an online flyer that this month the WL Weller 12 year is on sale at liquor barns for $16. That's on my definate buy list for next week!


    And since we're really talking rye here... I usually never mix my bourbon with anything, not even fancy drinks. But the one drink that I must say comes out great is a Manahattan made with some Van Winkle 13 YO Family Reserve Rye. It's just perfectly balanced IMO.

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    Re: A Waste of Good Rye?

    I just saw in an online flyer that this month the WL Weller 12 year is on sale at liquor barns for $16. That's on my definate buy list for next week!

    Mark, if you make it to Lexington, the Liquor Barn everyday price is $14.99. Not worth the trip on its own, but if you are passing through...Prices are generally a bit cheaper in Lexington than Louisville.

 

 

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