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  1. #31
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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    Problem is this is all just bad math, bourbon just doesn't get it's flavor from the char on the surface. It gets the majority of it's flavor from the inter layers of the wood that have been caramelized. Small barrels the staves are too thin to get much of any caramelized wood flavors out.
    Last edited by p_elliott; 04-10-2013 at 09:46.
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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    found a site selling bourbon barrels to collect rain.
    diameter in middle bigger (24") than top and bottom (21"). I made it a 22" cylinder to simplify.
    for surface area, I included to top and bottom (of course).
    my cylinder came out to 59 gal--close enough to not start over.
    SA : V ratio was 0.23736

    in the middle, if you make an 18" tall barrel (half height, half volume), then the SA : V ratio was 0.29--not as much of a difference as with cubes

    if you make it 9" tall (about 15 gal; don't know if a barrel can be made like that, just theory), then SA : V ratio is 0.4

    arbitrarily, if you make to top/bottom diameter 16" (radius 8"), then the height would be 17" to also give a 15 gal cylinder.
    the SA : V ratio of this is 0.37

    I wonder what the dimensions of those mini barrels they sell with white dog to age at home are; it would be interesting (fascinating?) to calculate the SA : V ratio of that for kicks, too.

    at this point, I grow frustrated and tired.
    but, you're welcome for these calculations.




    sounds like a graph solution, but there should be dimensions of a smaller barrel that would give the same SA to V ratio.....I think.

    I need a drink now, but I have to go to work at 4 pm....off tomorrow.

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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    I have no objection to the thread drift but I want to remind people what the original question was: "How long does it take to make good bourbon." The operative word here is "bourbon."

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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    4 years and a day. If the bottle doesn't say "straight" it doesn't taste right.

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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    At that age it could also be called Jack or Jim.

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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    Quote Originally Posted by p_elliott View Post
    Problem is this is all just bad math, bourbon just doesn't get it's flavor from the char on the surface. It gets the majority of it's flavor from the inter layers of the wood that have been caramelized. Small barrels the staves are too thin to get much of any caramelized wood flavors out.
    Pretty sure the math is good. But I completely agree with the core point; just because the surface area ratio is higher doesn't mean the small barrels are a viable substitute for large barrels. So, I will stick with 4 years+ like the rest of us.
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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery View Post
    I have no objection to the thread drift but I want to remind people what the original question was: "How long does it take to make good bourbon." The operative word here is "bourbon."
    Eh, It's fine when I said bourbon its because the site is bourbon centric. Whiskey in general is ok.

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    Re: How long does it take to make good bourbon?

    Well, yes, Bourbon is what we're about but I think the inquiry applies equally well to other whiskys.

 

 

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